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Zero VGS posted:Preorders are up on ShopBLT for the overpriced Asus: http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=01100300U033_B1FD867P.shtml If you can't understand why intel is doing this you are one dense motherfucker
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It's accelerating too, Z370 boards will be outdated and left without an upgrade path only 9 months from now. The IPC and frequency advantage over Ryzen allows them to pull stuff like that.
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Sep 29, 2017 21:01
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Outdated? By what? A new Coffee Lake system should run well for 2-4 years with video card upgrades.
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Z390 (2H/2018) will do everything Z370 does plus likely Ice Lake compatibility. There's also a good chance that 8C CFL-S will only run on Z390.
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Malcolm XML posted:If you can't understand why intel is doing this you are one dense motherfucker Well yeah, I mean I thought my last sentence was a solid theory. You'd think they'd dial it back a bit now they they have actual CPU competition again.
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Zero VGS posted:Preorders are up on ShopBLT for the overpriced Asus: http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=01100300U033_B1FD867P.shtml I really hope another manufacturer will step up to the plate with a dual m.2 design for less. I don't really need top of the line VRMs since no one on ITX is going for world record overclock so. Also, no one needs RGB, so there's that too. I'm not too shaken up my the motherboard thing, I didn't get Kaby Lake so it doesn't matter much to me. It could possibly suck down the line, but that is the price we pay for demanding top of the (consumer) line stuff.
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Zero VGS posted:Well yeah, I mean I thought my last sentence was a solid theory. You'd think they'd dial it back a bit now they they have actual CPU competition again. It's pretty clear intel can't turn on a dime and is flailing to protect its margins so would thus not give a gently caress about forcing a Mobo change since ryzen was not a thing during the z370 development and it looks essentially like a minor change for Mobo makers. Forcing a Mobo change lets them sell high margin chipsets and other garbage to pad sales numbers while CPUs are losing margin due to the increase in die size In short they didnt give a gently caress about the consumer since they didnt have to and didn't count on having to due to having market dominance AMD should be drilling this home but they are well AMD
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Sep 30, 2017 01:11
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Amazing that we're on the second generation of mobos with 3.1 Gen 2 front panel connectors, but cases for this are rare as hens teeth
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I tried installing the accelero on my 1080ti and have given up. I used thermal tape instead of the paste that came with it and went to finally install it into the ncase and 25% of the heat spreaders fell off...
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Man, it's looking like motherboard manufacturer's didn't bother with any new designs for the Z370, just making the minimum adjustments to their Z270 boards... Which means dual m.2 ITX boards are still going to be extremely limited, and that means the Asus one will probably be it for a while.horchata posted:I tried installing the accelero on my 1080ti and have given up. I used thermal tape instead of the paste that came with it and went to finally install it into the ncase and 25% of the heat spreaders fell off... Just use the glue. I know its a little scary, but you an spin the heatspreaders to get them off and then use rubbing alcohol to clean up.
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So, apparently there's a whole wild world of crazy Chinese computer cases out there and some brave souls are buying them and trying to use them. There is a Dan Case A4 knock off, which seems to be a good bit cheaper and probably has more availability. Here's the link to the forum and a direct link the Taobao listing. https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/whats-on-taobao.885/page-8#post-63130 https://world.taobao.com/item/545250722223.htm?spm=a312a.7728556.201601086188259.6.6FOF0.545250722227&scm=1007.12679.206343
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The only expensive part of the A4 case is the 3M cable and so random Chinese company uses a cheap ribbon instead, so you are not going to get great PCIe performance I would guess:
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I just plunked down for an M1 in preparation for a Coffee Lake build. I feel so horrible spending $230 on a case but couldn't resist. Any tips for cooling setups? Never worked in a case so small. Would prefer low noise > performance. I have an Asus Strix 1080 (open air) I'm going to be putting in.
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I ordered myself a Define Nano S. I was looking at tinier cases first, but after taking some measurements I figured I'll go with the slightly larger case and save myself the headache of having to use a shoehorn to fit everything. Gonna build a custom loop cooling both the CPU and GPU (i5 + GTX 1060, no overclocking) with a 240mm rad exhausting through the top vent. It's a modest build I know, but my goal is to get it as quiet as absolutely possible.
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Collateral Damage posted:I ordered myself a Define Nano S. I was looking at tinier cases first, but after taking some measurements I figured I'll go with the slightly larger case and save myself the headache of having to use a shoehorn to fit everything. Keep us updated as you progress. I myself am approaching a new build once new Nvidia GPUs are released and I want something smaller than my current 47L fractal R3. mATX for sure, likely 20L instead of 12L or less with mITX, but with room to breathe. I really like the Falcon NW Fragbox and will probably just order one of those next year.
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dy. posted:I just plunked down for an M1 in preparation for a Coffee Lake build. I feel so horrible spending $230 on a case but couldn't resist. Honestly unless you're doing some crazy overclocking or anything, a NH-U9S and some case fans should be fine.
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If I couldn't use my C-14, I'd have gone with the U9 for sure. If you're going balls out on overclocking might need a CLC unit.
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Cross-posting here cause I think I put it in the wrong thread first. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£238.44 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£159.91 @ More Computers) Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£128.39 @ Aria PC) Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card (£383.94 @ Aria PC) Case: Thermaltake - Core V1 Snow Edition Mini ITX Tower Case (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£72.44 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Total: £1028.58 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-06 22:18 BST+0100 Are there any obvious problems with this? Haven't built my own PC before so I might be missing something. Things I'm not sure on are different types/brands of RAM, and if the storage should be M.2 or 2.5"? I've read that the Core V1 is pretty easy to build in for a first build, has anyone used it before? Thanks!
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dy. posted:I just plunked down for an M1 in preparation for a Coffee Lake build. I feel so horrible spending $230 on a case but couldn't resist. Don't strix gpus not fit inside the ncase
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Keelbone posted:Cross-posting here cause I think I put it in the wrong thread first. Yes, everything there will work fine, I've built a dozen systems with Core V1. You'll love the white one you're getting. Don't forget the CPU cooler though... You can attach a 140mm CLC like the hydro 90 inside the front of the case so it uses the built in 200mm fan, works great.
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Zero VGS posted:Yes, everything there will work fine, I've built a dozen systems with Core V1. You'll love the white one you're getting. Don't forget the CPU cooler though... You can attach a 140mm CLC like the hydro 90 inside the front of the case so it uses the built in 200mm fan, works great. Thanks!  Is getting an extra cooler required or will the builtin fan be okay if I'm not overclocking right now?
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Keelbone posted:Thanks! The stock i7 cooler will work but it will be loud and might throttle the boost under load. If you can get one of these it fits perfect in the Core V1 and will keep the chip much cooler using only the built in 200mm fan at silent RPMs. https://www.amazon.com/NoFan-CR-80EH-IcePipe-Fanless-Cooler/dp/B00HW2O2L2
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Zero VGS posted:The stock i7 cooler will work but it will be loud and might throttle the boost under load. If you can get one of these it fits perfect in the Core V1 and will keep the chip much cooler using only the built in 200mm fan at silent RPMs. Awesome, I'll try one of those & keep the H90 in mind if I need that instead. Thanks for the help, now just to wait for the i7 to ever arrive 
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horchata posted:Don't strix gpus not fit inside the ncase
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Keelbone posted:Thanks! stock cooler should be fine forever since you're not getting a k chip, and can't overclick
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horchata posted:Don't strix gpus not fit inside the ncase I think the Strix only moved up to 2.5 slot coolers with the GTX 1080 Ti, the previous ones were 2 slot.
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beepsandboops posted:I kinda felt weird when I got mine as well, but I got over it. It's such a nice case. Any tips for fan config? Assuming I'm going with the NH-U9S, and I'll have a Strix 1080 so it will be dumping air. Plan on having two 120mms at the bottom dumping out, but ???
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I thought the Strix models had difficulty fitting in the NCase M1?
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brainwrinkle posted:I thought the Strix models had difficulty fitting in the NCase M1?
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Scott Forstall posted:Keep us updated as you progress. I built one of these earlier this year, here's the part list: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z270i GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($168.44 @ OutletPC) Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($339.87 @ OutletPC) Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($442.75 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($54.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.97 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Cooler Master - R4-SFNL-24PK-R1 38.0 CFM 120mm Fan Case Fan: Cooler Master - R4-SFNL-24PK-R1 38.0 CFM 120mm Fan EK Stuff: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xres-100-revo-d5-pwm-incl-pump https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-coolstream-se-240-slim-dual-5001 https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-duraclear-11-1-15-9mm I ended up building a custom EKWB loop with a single 240mm low profile rad mounted to the front, two Silencio FP120 PWM 2400s pushing air from the front, and two more pushing air out the top and back. I have a ghetto piece of construction paper closing off the rest of the top vent to make sure air flows the right way and to keep crap out of the top of the case. The radiator would not have fit above the board with the two fans pulled air through it. This was my first custom build and the tubing I used was 5/8ths and was probably one size too large, and would probably use 1/2 if I had it to do again. Also the pump / reservoir combo JUST barely fits between the end of the Ti and the radiator on the front of the case. Sadly it looks a little crowded inside. My CPU temps spike pretty regularly but I think it's due to lovely paste on the IHS from Intel, so I'm going to fix that with a delid here soon. The 1080Ti never crosses 60C even with the power target bumped to 120%. It seems like the front cover and the dust filter of the Nano S really inhibit the airflow, as I can make a good 3-4C back by removing the front cover. EDIT: I'm still pretty impressed by the case, it's one of the better MiniITX cases I've built in NeuralSpark fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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I don't know who's nuts/rich enough for one of these, but: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158060&cm_re=asrock_deskmini-_-56-158-060-_-Product ASRock Mini-STX 1080 barebones is in stock. Edit: Three M.2 slots is a nice touch, I doubt that 1080 can run at 100% without throttling though.
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Zero VGS posted:I don't know who's nuts/rich enough for one of these, but: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158060&cm_re=asrock_deskmini-_-56-158-060-_-Product Jesus, that's even more marked up than the 1060 one, which was $800. An additional $800 to go from a 1060 to a 1080. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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In case anyone was wondering, the Asus Z370-i is not compatible with the CoolerMaster Master Liquid 240 due to the cold plate either hitting a row of capacitors or the hoses hitting the obscenely large katana inspired heatsinks... This is dissapointing. Luckily my brother has an old H100 that I traded him for, now the next hurdle is finding an adapter because I don't have molex anymore to power the AIO pump... Anyway, this is my NCase M1 build. Intel i5-8400 16GB G.Skill DDR4-3000 Asus Z370-i EVGA GTX 1080Ti with Arctic Cooling Accelero 3 cooler Silverstone SX500-LG Corsair H100 240mm AIO Here's some pics with the panels off.    My next steps are: Getting the molex adapter I need so I can actually run the machine Get an i7-8700k once they're more available Get a Corsair SF600 because its smaller and I may need more power to OC an 8700K Getting an NVME SSD so I can just have the two m.2 SSDs and no SATA cables or SATA power cables. The cable management is bad as there's nowhere to reroute everything, but pretty much every micro build has bad cable management.
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I've got an Fractal Design Node 202 that I'm replacing with an Ncase M1, so I'd figure I'd offer the Node 202 to you SFF goons for the cost of shipping. The case itself is pretty good shape, and lived in a Pelican case for most of it's 2 month life. It's part-complete (including PCIe riser), save for the SSD retainer from the center divider. PM me if you want it or want pictures, otherwise it's off to SA-Mart.
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https://www.nzxt.com/products/h200i-matte-white 
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I wish they had a non windowed version. I don't like the thought of shattering the tempered glass window when moving the thing.
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Whoa, think that’s new my builds case, thanks!
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Wow I just read how horrible NZXT's CAM software is with its telemetry. When issues were addressed by concerned customers, they doubled down saying it was good for the customer that NZXT had their information. What a horrible company. I was going to maybe get the H200i but not anymore
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Rabid Snake posted:I wish they had a non windowed version. I don't like the thought of shattering the tempered glass window when moving the thing. I cant see how thick it is but it should be closer to a shower screen than a wine glass.
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