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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

zoux posted:

Anytime I see someone call something "sub-par" it's helpful, because I know I don't have to take their opinions seriously. Same with "underwhelmed".


There are those, but also the ones that think Rick is an aspirational figure rather than a sociopath and identify with him because he sciences poo poo, biotch. And the usual fans of adult animation who are consumed with continuity above all else.

The internet is mankind's worst invention

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

My friend what if I told you that we are on the internet right now

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Iron Crowned posted:

The internet is mankind's worst invention

It's certainly sub-par.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

zoux posted:

My friend what if I told you that we are on the internet right now

If it wasn't invented, I wouldn't be on it right now, and I might, by some slim margin be a decent human being

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The worst episode of this season of Rick and Morty is not only written by a male writer but written by these awful fans' idol Harmon himself lol

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

from the article I linked, you no article clicking motherfuckers posted:

What’s more, it was patently wrongheaded. As Harmon pointed out, the trolls’ ire was evidence of their “total ignorance of how television works”. Television is a collaborative medium and a credit is usually just a reward for one writer doing what Harmon calls “grunt work” – developing the outline of an episode, for example. “I want to scream at my computer: ‘You idiots, we all write the show together!’”

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Also, at least on Community, Dan would give every script a final pass or two before (or during) shooting. Not sure if that’s the case for Rick & Morty or not.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

It's about ethics in adult cartoons journalism.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It's more gatekeeping, this is ours, normies stay out bullshit reverse bullying that happens with any remotely nerd property these days and well I don't like it. Consume Media Normally Please.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I blame the bronies.

For everything, really.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Rick and Morty was already bad hth

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

lelandjs posted:

I blame the bronies.

For everything, really.

Terrible fans of things have existed long before that fad. Remember the browncoats?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

IRQ posted:

Terrible fans of things have existed long before that fad. Remember the browncoats?

Yeah

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Remember, if you let terrible fans have power over you they win

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

GQ also has a bad R&M fan article today, was there a media bulletin or something

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

IRQ posted:

Terrible fans of things have existed long before that fad. Remember the browncoats?

Browncoats celebrated Firefly. Bronies made the show, and all discourse about it, about themselves instead.

Obviously there were some misguided Browncoats and Trekkies and what have you but there were never this many, and they were never this vocal--until Bronies came around and made it publicly acceptable to be a lovely fan of something.

Regy Rusty posted:

Remember, if you let terrible fans have power over you they win

...I guess this is where I finally admit that I watched MLP though the season three finale and then gave up because I was worried people would think I was one of them

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Oct 5, 2017

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

zoux posted:

GQ also has a bad R&M fan article today, was there a media bulletin or something

Season finale I guess generated some interest?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Also I don't think it's that widespread a problem it's just that like anything, the internet amplifies the worst voices and nerds always turn against shows in season 3.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


zoux posted:

GQ also has a bad R&M fan article today, was there a media bulletin or something

Probably because

quote:

Sunday’s Season 3 finale drew a 3.9/821 in adults 18-24 and a 3.2/1521 in adults 18-34 in Live+ same day, and was the most-watched telecast of the day across cable with adults 18-24, 18-34 and 18-49, according to Adult Swim and Nielsen.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

While obviously the internet has the ability to highlight stuff that was always there and probably isn't as big as it seems when you zero in, there's probably a lot to say for the internet making it worse because it becomes so easy to hook up and reinforce each other. Like, without the internet there might have been dudes who want to bang cartoons, but they probably never would have found each other or actually gotten porn cartoons without really, really putting themselves out there and looking at great personal cost and risk.

Like I imagine pre-internet a Trekkie Convention was like an onion and every layer you peel off just gets to a smaller, more twisted subset of the fanbase obsessing about something more disturbing in some grimy hotel room. Now the internet is just one big convention with Twitter.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Oct 5, 2017

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

Probably because

3.9 in that demo :eyepop:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


zoux posted:

3.9 in that demo :eyepop:
That honestly seems impossible

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Especially considering that doesn't include people who pirate the show.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Josh Lyman posted:

That honestly seems impossible

The show was literally able to get McDonalds to bring back a 20 year old nugget dipping sauce.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Harmon has become too powerful....

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll
He's the new Shonda

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

STAC Goat posted:

Like I imagine pre-internet a Trekkie Convention was like an onion and every layer you peel off just gets to a smaller, more twisted subset of the fanbase obsessing about something more disturbing in some grimy hotel room. Now the internet is just one big convention with Twitter.

The real problem is that when you're no longer contained to a grimy hotel room it becomes normalized and then suddenly there's multiple people marrying stuffed horse dolls (and worse) because, poo poo man, that guy over there did it, so I'll do it too.

It's also why the alt-right and tea party had such huge movements, and how Donald loving Trump was elected goddamn president.

The internet was a mistake.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

This could be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJaUfpbEYIU

Numberwang
Sep 2, 2016
I don't think I can ever watch anything Dan Harmon related again. He's such a creepy, insecure weirdo.

It was a few years back, I guess there was some sort of "HarmonCon" or whatever. The girl that organized the event apparently insulted/criticized Harmon about something (it doesn't really matter). Then Harmon came back at her with his own childish insults... it was all petty as gently caress, but really no big deal.

The thing that got me was how he explained it all after the fact. I'm slightly paraphrasing here, "She came after me, so I had to punish her for it".

I specifically remember the phrase "punish her for it" and the way he said it. He had this giddy, flippant facial expression, completely void of any empathy. It seriously made me feel sick to my stomach.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I hope you tweeted your outrage.

Enjoy your stuff, don't look too far into your heroes or you'll typically be disappointed.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Creative types are fuckin' weird a lot of the time, you don't want to know how the sausage is made.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I made some joke critical tweet to Harmon a couple months ago and a day later he said he was blocking anyone he thought was criticising him. Not long after I got a "sounds like criticism to me!" reply and he'd blocked me. I laughed and thought nothing of it but then someone who follows us both let me know he wasn't even replying to that tweet but actually a different joke tweet from back in FEBRUARY. Like, was he just keeping a record of this stuff?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.


"From the guys who brought you Sausage Party."

I'm out.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Sausage Party has an 82% on RT

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Netflix is raising its price by 2 bucks.

“From time to time, Netflix plans and pricing are adjusted as we add more exclusive TV shows and movies, introduce new product features and improve the overall Netflix experience to help members find something great to watch even faster,” a Netflix spokesperson said in a statement to The Verge.

Look we get that prices go up, don't frame it like you're doing it for our benefit.

Arist posted:

Sausage Party has an 82% on RT

It's Rogen and Goldberg so they have a pretty good resume. I didn't care for Sausage Party myself but I liked This is the End and Preacher.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Arist posted:

Sausage Party has an 82% on RT

What the gently caress, seriously? Man that movie was pure poo poo.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Escobarbarian posted:

I made some joke critical tweet to Harmon a couple months ago and a day later he said he was blocking anyone he thought was criticising him. Not long after I got a "sounds like criticism to me!" reply and he'd blocked me. I laughed and thought nothing of it but then someone who follows us both let me know he wasn't even replying to that tweet but actually a different joke tweet from back in FEBRUARY. Like, was he just keeping a record of this stuff?

Honestly? Yeah, he probably does.

I don’t think anyone looks up to Dan Harmon, and he’s openly admitted that he’s a sad, broken, alcoholic man with bad opinions.

He never should have been put into the spotlight but he accidentally created two of the greatest television comedies of all time so...

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

If anyone's been looking up to Harvey Weinstein I got some real bad news

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

zoux posted:

If anyone's been looking up to Harvey Weinstein I got some real bad news

I’m really just surprised that it’s news now, it’s been known for ages that he’s a massive creep. I have no loving clue why Obama let Malia anywhere near him.

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Because she's surrounded by deadly body guards

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