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Just for the record, here's something on the track record for the legal team at Epic:quote:In 2007, Canadian game studio Silicon Knights sued Epic Games for failure to "provide a working game engine", causing the Ontario-based game developer to "experience considerable losses." The suit alleged that Epic Games was "sabotaging" Unreal Engine 3 licensees. Epic's licensing document stated that a working version of the engine would be available within six months of the Xbox 360 developer kits being released. Silicon Knights claimed that Epic not only missed this deadline, but that when a working version of the engine was eventually released, the documentation was insufficient. The game studio also claimed Epic had withheld vital improvements to the game engine, claiming they were "game specific", while also using licensing fees to fund development of its own titles rather than the engine itself.[43] Vs track record for Bluehole: quote:In 2007, NCsoft filed a complaint to South Korean gosu gamer authorities and brought a civil action for damages and an injunction to Bluehole Studio. The Bluehole Studio founders and employees, formerly employed under NCsoft and working on the Lineage III development team, were convicted by a Korean criminal court for the theft of valuable trade secrets from NCsoft in 2009. In 2010, a Korean civil court held these individuals, along with Bluehole Studio, liable for misappropriation of trade secrets, awarding NCsoft about $2 million in damages and issuing an injunction against utilizing trade secrets for monetary gain. The damages were later reversed by an appellate court, but the injunction remained in place. Despite the injunction, Bluehole Studio developed and released TERA in South Korea. Amazingly, the time frames are basically identical. Which company do you think has a better understanding of the contracts they've actually agreed to?
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FWIW Epic is pretty much owned by Tencent now. Tencent is a gigantic company with no compunction against flexing legal muscles.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:14
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I'm streaming some FPP solos here. Haven't played in a while but I want to get back into the groove for when the leaderboards reset, come hang 
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Oct 5, 2017 23:45
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Less fighting about stupid poo poo, more winning games in silly ways. Did this a few days ago, my favorite #1 win so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0sO3KV5aIs
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:mostly your flippancy. i figured that would have been clear based on context. Shut up nerd
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Oct 6, 2017 00:26
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Parallel Playa posted:I'm streaming some FPP solos here. Haven't played in a while but I want to get back into the groove for when the leaderboards reset, come hang I was going to say who cares but it's a crossbow only match and it's fun to watch!
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Oct 6, 2017 02:19
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Holy lmao wasn't TERA the game that literally had that gross "she may look nine but she's actually a million year old dragon so the costumes are appropriate" character?
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yes, it was.
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Premature posted:I'm also pretty new to the game playing on OCE, we (and any other Oceanic goons) should team up and shred pubbies. We should. Post yr steam name and I'll add you when I get a chance? I would post mine, but it's something really long and dumb and I can't remember how to spell it properly.
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Oct 6, 2017 05:00
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I want a VSS buff. I really want it to be my short range murder device.
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Cathab posted:We should. Post yr steam name and I'll add you when I get a chance? I would post mine, but it's something really long and dumb and I can't remember how to spell it properly. http://steamcommunity.com/id/prematureejaculame
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woo 2 chicken dinners tonight, just in time for the reset. Nothing like saving the guy who was fighting the third place finisher to add some extra pressure to the final two. Luckily later when someone saved me from the third place finisher, they ended up choking 
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Oct 6, 2017 07:47
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Have the Pubg guys ever mentioned if they wanted to have grass render at longer distances? until the circle closes in enough that the grass always renders your always at risk of someone seeing you laying prone in plain sight and sniping you.
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FAUXTON posted:Holy lmao wasn't TERA the game that literally had that gross "she may look nine but she's actually a million year old dragon so the costumes are appropriate" character? I thought this was Fire Emblem: Awakening? 
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Oct 6, 2017 07:55
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Have the Pubg guys ever mentioned if they wanted to have grass render at longer distances? until the circle closes in enough that the grass always renders your always at risk of someone seeing you laying prone in plain sight and sniping you. WTF this is bullshit I can't run this on a dual core with my gtx 550 what is console command to disable grass
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Oct 6, 2017 07:57
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Have the Pubg guys ever mentioned if they wanted to have grass render at longer distances? until the circle closes in enough that the grass always renders your always at risk of someone seeing you laying prone in plain sight and sniping you. Don't lay prone
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Oct 6, 2017 09:45
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:Don't lay prone The only time laying prone seems to be helpful is when I'm hiding at the top of some of the stairs so the person climbing them doesn't spot me before I shoot them in the back.
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A recent win: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/180049873 I still think we should have taken the car 
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Regrettable posted:The only time laying prone seems to be helpful is when I'm hiding at the top of some of the stairs so the person climbing them doesn't spot me before I shoot them in the back. Or if you know the other person is within like 50 meters
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Mauser posted:A recent win: I had a similar win last night, the last guy just didnt manage to make the circle in time and the game ended with me asking what the gently caress happened. Not the worst way to get some dinner i guess!
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VulgarandStupid posted:Which company do you think has a better understanding of the contracts they've actually agreed to? VulgarandStupid posted:Just for the record, here's something on the track record for the legal team at Epic: quote:Consistent with Epic's counterclaims, the presiding judge stated that Silicon Knights had "deliberately and repeatedly copied thousands of lines of Epic Games' copyrighted code, and then attempted to conceal its wrongdoing by removing Epic Games' copyright notices and by disguising Epic Games' copyrighted code as Silicon Knights' own." And Epic's was a two parter in which someone was sued for stealing code while suing epic for failing to provide, which they only got off on because the license had a line that said there was no guarantee that the engine would be fit for purpose, and the judge said that oral guarantees are invalid, and that "promissory representations" don't constitute fraud. So if you were to license the engine on the basis of them demonstrating features that they didn't really have yet and then they lie to your face about what it can and will be able to do and they don't give you it when they said they would you're poo poo out of luck. The only real legal issue/claim bluehole could make is misappropriation of trade secrets because they don't want to help the competition? But I imagine that their contracts/licenses have a big "If we're working with you to solve some problems we can use anything we learn about how you're trying to deal with things to improve the product as a whole instead of sitting on optimisations and features"-clause.
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I understand why people are saying high ping is better than low ping. Low ping should still have the advantage but I guess different pings are affecting hit detection. When I play on NA servers my hit detection is awful. When I play on AS servers the same shots I missed on NA are hitting. What is the best explanation for this? I welcome serious guesses and opinions on this one. Are the people I can't hit people with high ping? Is it less of a problem at higher ratings because you are most likely playing with people in your own region? Is this even a thing? Is it all just confirmation bias?
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lohli posted:But I imagine that their contracts/licenses have a big "If we're working with you to solve some problems we can use anything we learn about how you're trying to deal with things to improve the product as a whole instead of sitting on optimisations and features"-clause. Somehow I have a feeling that's either not present or not enforced with PUBG
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Hulebr00670065006e posted:Don't lay prone It'd be cool if they implemented the thing Arma does. Grass doesn't render there very far either. To get around that problem, after a certain distance lying prone will partially melt you into the terrain to simulate hiding in the grass. Makes you much harder to see, and if you have the right angle and a far enough distance you can disappear into the ground entirely.
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cosmicjim posted:I understand why people are saying high ping is better than low ping. Low ping should still have the advantage but I guess different pings are affecting hit detection. When I play on NA servers my hit detection is awful. When I play on AS servers the same shots I missed on NA are hitting. What is the best explanation for this? I welcome serious guesses and opinions on this one. Go to YouTube and watch a Battle nonsense video, he lays it down pretty well
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Not a fan of this double vision when near the blue zone wall. I'm inside the zone, shooting at a group of two (one is behind the double vision on the left) when my scope twitched left for a split second and then was rendered useless. Why is this a thing? 
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WirelessPillow posted:Not a fan of this double vision when near the blue zone wall. I've run into that as well, it's very infuriating! I really did not like H1Z1 KOTK but one thing I did like about the game was the blue zone/wall was a gas and it got denser the deeper you went into it. This blue zone that flickers makes it hard to aim in and out of it.
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FiftySeven posted:I had a similar win last night, the last guy just didnt manage to make the circle in time and the game ended with me asking what the gently caress happened. Not the worst way to get some dinner i guess! It's not my first win to the blue, but it's always a little disappointing not getting those final kills. In another 2 v 1 finish with my buddy, we had the guy trapped in a wizard hut, with me flanking behind and my buddy sitting in the new circle. Guy gets out of the tower and hops and dances and runs around behind when we start shooting him, then he just runs back inside and lets the blue kill him  I'd rather go down shooting every time. I manged to get a kill against a duo because I knocked the guy that had a primed grenade and he blew himself and his teammate up despite me getting riddled with bullets from the other. Always go down shooting!
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Shima Honnou posted:It'd be cool if they implemented the thing Arma does. Grass doesn't render there very far either. To get around that problem, after a certain distance lying prone will partially melt you into the terrain to simulate hiding in the grass. Makes you much harder to see, and if you have the right angle and a far enough distance you can disappear into the ground entirely. This is basically my only problem with this game. People bitching about balance? Tossers! This game is balanced just fine and the optimization will come but I need me some game mechanic fixes like this prone stealth thing. And better weather. And stop the drat crates from falling through the map. So I am getting to point where I can land at places like School and Pochinki and Firing Range and survive and kill like three people and make it to midgame. I have had a couple times in the end game where I've just died in blue from misjudging timing and forgetting to heal instead of racing the health bar (oops!). Any end game strategies yall are finding work well?
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When I get to mid game, one habit has helped me out the most: don't shoot everyone you see, at least not right away. Stalk them for a while, see if they're after someone else or someone else is after them. Wait for them to go in a building and creep up and catch them on the stairs, etc.
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If you hear a gunfight, get an angle on it and wait until the winner goes to loot the loser. Then shoot the winner while they're distracted. Then hope there wasn't someone else watching and waiting to shoot you. This is probably going to get argued against by people better than me, but once the circle starts to get really small don't chase gunfire. Let everybody waste their ammo, medkits, and grenades on each other unless you're really desperate.
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If we still lived in the era of Quake 1/2/3 mods and poo poo, this game would live there very comfortably. It is a super fun game mode, the technical quality is slightly lacking but you accept the jank because it is a loving mod. If Bluehole were smart, they'd have taken their game with all of its loving sales and cashed it out to a bigger developer that could give them technical support and legal shelter from motherfuckers appropriating "your" game mode. Team Fortress did it, Counterstrike did it, PUBG will probably go down as "first to make a real fun BR game mode, but lack of technical chops meant that we will get better by a more refined version and be relegated to the dustbin of history"
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the idea that 'battle royale' is somehow pubg's game mode is so bizarre to me. people were playing this exact same poo poo years ago. like, they certainly got the most success doing it, but i don't really think that's how it works.
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osker posted:If we still lived in the era of Quake 1/2/3 mods and poo poo, this game would live there very comfortably. It is a super fun game mode, the technical quality is slightly lacking but you accept the jank because it is a loving mod. That's a pretty fair take on it. It reminds me a lot of Q2 stuff, partly because of the overall jank and partially because FPP provides that old school dialup experience.
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osker posted:If we still lived in the era of Quake 1/2/3 mods and poo poo, this game would live there very comfortably. It is a super fun game mode, the technical quality is slightly lacking but you accept the jank because it is a loving mod. arent they kinda doing this rn though? a little late sure but isn't that the whole point of forming pubg corp, to aggressively legitimize them as *the* BR company and game
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Tokubetsu posted:arent they kinda doing this rn though? a little late sure but isn't that the whole point of forming pubg corp, to aggressively legitimize them as *the* BR company and game cool how it's basically Battle Royale: the movie: the game and now they're gonna try claiming usage rights on it like slide-to-unlock.
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Tokubetsu posted:*the* BR company and game stop i'm dying here
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Tokubetsu posted:arent they kinda doing this rn though? a little late sure but isn't that the whole point of forming pubg corp, to aggressively legitimize them as *the* BR company and game this isn't what that says. like, don't get me wrong, i'm sure playerunknown would love to somehow become credited for an original idea that he just stole from a movie, but this isn't what that says.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:this isn't what that says. "business ventures" is pretty broad sure but i don't see how that doesn't lead to them at least trying to push the brand and ip???
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