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Mister Adequate posted:Option A: Return the Territory to National France Counterpoint: gently caress those guys. 
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Oct 5, 2017 13:18
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BAA National France is a country of massive losers who couldn't even control their own stolen territory. We should kick them out of Africa and give their territory to the Africans, not reward them for being a bunch of failures.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:13
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Oct 5, 2017 16:16
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Mister Adequate posted:Option A: Return the Territory to National France Excuse me, we're creating a bitter and insular regime in Northern Africa. Also, we're not creating it, it's already there.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:50
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BAA. AKA Operation 
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Oct 5, 2017 18:30
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Friend Commuter posted:Excuse me, we're creating a bitter and insular regime in Northern Africa. Also, we're not creating it, it's already there. You're right, that was a typo! And I meant even more bitter and insular. Russian rather than merely French.
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Oct 5, 2017 18:40
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Ought to kick France from the alliance, admit Algeria and free western Africa.
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Oct 5, 2017 18:54
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Mister Adequate posted:You're right, that was a typo! Pah, call me when we hit North Korean levels.
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Voting closed! By a margin of 26-9, the conference elects to Install the Fourth Republic. By a margin of 30-5, the conference agrees to attack Russia in the future. By a margin of 30-5, the conference backs the King Doctrine. Now that the conferences are concluded, the attitudes of the allies are set, and each allied government will decide how much to help. The base chances for each ally before the conferences (based off a d20) are as follows. United Kingdom: 1-20 full commitment Canada: 1-2 75% commitment, 3-20 full commitment National France: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment Republic of China: 1-7 no commitment 8-10 25% commitment 11-13 50% commitment 14-16 75% commitment 17-20 full commitment India: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment United States: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment Pacific States: 1-2 50% commitment 3-7 75% commitment 8-20 full commitment South African Federation: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment Indonesia: 1-2 50% commitment 3-7 75% commitment 8-20 full commitment Australasia: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment The cumulative effects of the votes are as follows (these are the values by which the base chances will be shifted, so a minus value is a positive effect, greatly was +/- 6, dis/please was +/- 3, and slightly was +/- 1) Canada: -1 National France: +14 Republic of China: -17 India: +2 USA: -9 PSA: -3 SAF: +6 Indonesia: +3 Australasia: +1 Thus the new chances are: United Kingdom: 1-20 full commitment Canada: 1-1 75% commitment, 2-20 full commitment National France: 1-13 no commitment 14-17 25% commitment 18-20 50% commitment Republic of China: 1-20 full commitment India: 1-5 25% commitment 6-8 50% commitment 9-12 75% commitment, 13-20 full commitment United States: 1-2 75% commitment, 3-20 full commitment Pacific States: 1-4 75% commitment 5-20 full commitment South African Federation: 1-5 no commitment 6-9 25% commitment 10-12 50% commitment 13-16 75% commitment, 17-20 full commitment Indonesia: 1-5 50% commitment 6-10 75% commitment 11-20 full commitment Australasia: 1-3 25% commitment 4-6 50% commitment 7-10 75% commitment, 10-20 full commitment Rolls next update!
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Oct 10, 2017 02:31
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So we brought the Chinese and and US states on board, massively pissed off the colonialists, and then mildly peeved off everyone else. Not bad at all.
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Oct 10, 2017 02:37
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I think we made it out pretty well, all things considered. Those who are relatively cool, good, and helpful are highly likely to help while the lovely emaciated regimes might.
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Oct 10, 2017 03:17
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We massively upset the French lol Aside from that though, from a strategic perspective it looks like we acted very wisely. We're now guaranteed to have the manpower of China to call on, and probably most of the technology and manpower of North America. With a bit of luck we'll also get decent support from India, SAF, and/or Indonesia. Between that and Japan herself we're about as well-off as we can expect to be, barring the development of  NUCLEAR WEAPONS.Watch us roll a dozen Natural 1s.
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Oct 10, 2017 03:18
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gently caress tha French. The absolutely worst part of the Entente, even worse than the drat monarchies
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Oct 10, 2017 03:27
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I can't wait for the French State to become "Apartheid South Africa but taking up a quarter of the continent" in the epilogue to this.
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Oct 10, 2017 03:29
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Japan's totally gonna fund independence seeking revolutionaries in National France if they survive. More importantly I hope China, the PSA, and Japan can be pals post war. Maybe form some sort of Treaty Organization. paragon1 fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Oct 10, 2017 03:50
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paragon1 posted:Japan's totally gonna fund independence seeking revolutionaries in National France if they survive. NPTO?
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Plutonis posted:NPTO? PRTO maybe? I couldn't think of a set of words that make it a sort of plausible non-word word like NATO.
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Oct 10, 2017 04:24
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paragon1 posted:PRTO maybe? I couldn't think of a set of words that make it a sort of plausible non-word word like NATO. 国際軍事協力機関 こぐきょき for short
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Oct 10, 2017 05:29
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The Grand East Asia Mutual Prosperity Sphere?
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Oct 10, 2017 05:32
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The United States would try to reconquer the PSA at the first opportunity.
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Oct 10, 2017 12:04
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Mister Adequate posted:The Grand East Asia Mutual Prosperity Sphere? Yes, the world shall fear GEAMPS! QuoProQuid posted:The United States would try to reconquer the PSA at the first opportunity. Not if China and Japan have anything to say about it
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Oct 10, 2017 12:23
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paragon1 posted:PRTO maybe? I couldn't think of a set of words that make it a sort of plausible non-word word like NATO. POTO - Pacific Ocean Treaty Organisation easy peasy
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Oct 10, 2017 13:19
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The name of the organization doesn't matter as long as we create the Pan Pacific Defense Forces and invent jaegers to defend against potential syndicalist kaiju
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Oct 10, 2017 13:36
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Bit offtopic, but what OS are you running DH on? If it's Windows 10, were you ever able to stop the mouse flickering bug? That's been plaguing me for almost a year.
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Oct 10, 2017 16:40
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Kavak posted:Bit offtopic, but what OS are you running DH on? If it's Windows 10, were you ever able to stop the mouse flickering bug? That's been plaguing me for almost a year. I did have this problem when W10 came out and I think I fixed it by going to the launcher and the game .exe itself in the game directory, hitting properties, going to compatibility tab and then checking run as administrator and run in compatibility mode for Windows 7. These are the settings I have right now and I don't have this issue anymore, but I don't remember if that was how I fixed that issue or not.
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Chapter Twenty-One: It’s All Up In The Air (Europe & Africa: October 10, 1941 – February 9, 1942) United Kingdom – 17 – Full Commitment: The restored United Kingdom feels a closer kinship to Japan than at any point in history and has enthusiastically committed their forces to the cause, even though their proximity to the danger means they were bound to regardless of Japanese diplomatic efforts. Canada – 13 – Full Commitment: Similarly, Canada is committed to seeing the fight through. National France – 10 – No Commitment: The situation in National France is quite different and even the modestly successful diplomatic push by Japan to secure National French support was far too little, especially given the Japanese refusal to help against the Algerian rebels. National France is willing to allow Entente use of their bases, but any other assistance would be at their discretion. Republic of China – 11 – Full Commitment: The Republicans in China have been plied with promises and bribes to a point where they are committing fully to the fight despite its relative unpopularity amongst the population. India – 16 – Full Commitment: Japan and Canada fed India promises that the Middle East would be in their sphere of influence, and they are now fully on board despite their previous concerns about Japanese hegemony. United States – 12 – Full Commitment: The United States of America is also fully committed to the war effort, its confidence built up by the operations in Mexico and eager to reopen the markets of Europe to its recovering industry. Pacific States – 1 – 75% Commitment: Japanese diplomats made a major misstep by skipping the Pacific States when making a major trip across North America. This offense was made worse when the United States government announced that Japanese diplomats had agreed with their position that the Pacific States ought to rejoin the Union. The decision by the Pacifican administration to retain a much larger home guard than necessary is a pointed rebuke at both Japan and the United States, even if they still plan to send the majority of their forces overseas. South African Federation – 5 – No Commitment: A Japanophobic attitude has caught on lately among the conservative South African whites who run the nation, who are convinced that Japan and China are in league with the black population of Africa to end all white political power on the continent. Thus, the South African Federation is inclined to sit at home and watch events unfold. Indonesia – 13 – Full Commitment: Indonesia is still very much committed to the idea of liberating the Netherlands and achieving full independence according to the concord reached a year or so back. Australasia – 4 – 50% Commitment: The Japanese diplomatic mission to Canberra was a disaster, and Australasian leaders ended up feeling as though Japan had very little respect for them. Nevertheless, the Australasian populace does credit Japan with liberating the mother country, and so Australasia will nevertheless provide some support. ~*~*~*~  One aspect of the Australasians’ protest was their intention of leaving their large fleet, including the mega-flagship George V, at home rather than sending it to Europe. This ended up being just fine by the Japanese, who entrusted the defense of the Pacific to their annoyed comrades.  The naval situation in Europe was mostly well in hand, and more important in the immediate was the organization of the Entente air effort, which had thus far been a haphazard improvised affair.  The massive airbases built by the socialists in the thirties now hosted pilots and aircraft from all over the world.  The airbases were complicated in their day to day functioning, as the various airforces which used American, British, Japanese or Chinese designs all operated in the same bases, using different logistics chains for their specific ammunition, parts and fuel needs.  The problems were expected to some degree, but there were also issues with the pilots cooperating. A full-fledged riot broke out in Hull when an English prostitute refused to serve any Japanese customers. Before long, there were rumors that the Japanese had murdered the prostitute (they had not) and townsfolk and the white airmen of the RAAF were both demanding that the Japanese be moved to another airbase. The incident came to a close when RCAF airmen enforced a truce between the two sides.  Racial tensions between the Asian and white airmen were worst in the inactive bomber squadrons, where the airmen had more time to get in trouble. They had mostly taken a back seat in the fighter squadrons which had been active the entire time. The Chinese, initially expected by many of their allies to be a subpar air force, turned out to have the most effective interceptor squadrons in the entire alliance.   The Chinese also dispelled any doubts about if they were actually going to fight their far-left cousins or if they were going to simply perform allegiance in order to secure what Japan had promised them. The European syndicalists excoriated the Chinese social democrats for their participation, decrying them as opportunistic nationalists willing to see the cause die in Europe in order to see China united.  Entente air commanders were pleased by the cohesion shown by the international fighter squadrons and sought to plan a major operation in order to achieve similar results amongst the bomber squadrons. The target would be Brest, the haven of the Republican Navy and the cobbled together fleet of the American Reds which had ferried thousands of syndicalist exiles to France rather than surrender to the Entente.  The raid was planned to demolish the port and any ship inside it, but it was also decided to use the operation as a testbed for other bombings. While the naval bombers attacked the port itself, other bombers were tasked with bombarding any road or railroad into the region.  On top of all of that, the Brittany region was blanketed with fighter cover to ensure that the bombers were unmolested as much as possible.  In addition to the raids by land-based bombers, the carriers would also join in, as well as establish a blockade to catch any ships which attempted to escape.   On the morning of November 7, 1941, a swarm of locusts descended upon Brest and Brittany, triggering fears in Paris that such a large concentration of aircraft meant that the Entente was already invading France.    The first day of the raid claimed the Saratoga and utterly demolished the port facilities.  It was a decent showing for the first day, and the returning fighters encountered and badly damaged a numerically inferior French force sent for a counter-raid.  The raiders came a second time a few days later.    This time they sunk two carriers and a battleship.  There were many damaged syndicalist vessels attempting to repair, but the port facilities were damaged beyond usability, and the French were having a very difficult time getting supplies to the port in order to begin repairs.  The Entente’s marshalling of disparate forces did not stop with the massive air force brought to bear on Brittany. The various submarine forces of the alliance were collected in French West Africa, from which they attempted to cut off any trade convoys headed for the mainland.  However, most of the headlines across the Entente nations were consumed by the Brest raids throughout the winter months. The final Republican carrier was sunk in the second raid.   Now facing a force with no carriers, the Australasians sunk two battleships and a heavy cruiser.      By the end of the year, the Brest raids had sent four carriers and ten battleships to the bottom of Brest harbor.  However, the Communal Navy still operated out of its base in Marseille, continuing to hunt Entente convoys across the Atlantic. It was here that Japan’s decision not to help the National French defeat the Algerian rebels turned out to hamper the war effort. Due to the ongoing war consuming Algeria and Tunisia, there were no secure bases from which the Entente could reach Marseille. ~*~*~*~  The outbreak of war between the Entente and the Arab Bloc had complicated things, and the failure of Japan to secure any promise of support from either National France or South Africa proved especially frustrating at this point.  Fortunately, Japanese infantry was available to halt the Egyptian advance. The Egyptian attack from Sudan was half-hearted, as most of the bloc’s attention was focused on their battle with Turkestan in Persia.   Despite the French regime’s disdain for Japan, they had actually gotten along somewhat well with the Bantu Federation, who had pragmatically recognized the need to cooperate with their neighbors. Therefore, the French sent divisions to support the Japanese infantry defending the Bantu Federation from Arab encroachment.   The weak Egyptian advance was turned back totally, and soon the only impediment to Entente advance was the tough terrain and poor infrastructure.   Nevertheless, the advance pressed northwards, as the Japanese sought to prevent their most hated ally from gaining territory in Africa. Next update is contemporaneous, hence no votes.
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Yeah, the European governments in Africa are all trash. Once the war is over, it will be time to deal with them...
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Chief Savage Man posted:South African Federation – 5 – No Commitment: A Japanophobic attitude has caught on lately among the conservative South African whites who run the nation, who are convinced that Japan and China are in league with the black population of Africa to end all white political power on the continent. I mean, they're not wrong...
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Crazycryodude posted:I mean, they're not wrong... Well of course it's true. But that just means you act doubly outraged that they would even think of accusing you of what you are obviously doing!
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Chapter Twenty-Two: The Triumph of the Triumphs (The Middle East: October 10, 1941 – February 9, 1942) Sphere war planners reacted to the news that India had declared war upon the Arab bloc with horror at first. The Arab bloc had always been figured as a neutral force that would not object to Entente use of the Suez Canal, even if they were selling oil to the enemy.  The Indian Army assured their allies that they would be able to mobilize quickly enough to gain significant advantage in Persia before Turkestan pushed to the Persian Gulf. The first challenge was marshalling the far-flung Indian Army into the remote and poorly developed frontier along the border of Balochistan and Persia.  The Indian Army had changed dramatically from the last time it had operated as an army of all India. Inspired by the success of mobile warfare across the globe and empowered by its growing industrial base, the Indian Army elected to develop a large and mobile army and by the beginning of the war against the Arabs, the Army consisted of over 40 divisions, half of which were cavalry and the other half infantry. The term cavalry was quickly becoming more of a relic of tradition rather than a strict definition of horse-mounted troops. The hallmark of the new Indian cavalry was a piece of British engineering which had been carried to Canada by exiles and then distributed to India through the Empire’s technology-sharing programs. With the advent of the war in India and then the global war, the Indian Army came to be obsessed with one piece of technology amongst the wealth of knowledge that had fled Britain: the Triumph motorcycle. Domestic Indian production led to thousands of motorcycles designed for rough terrain and bad roads being deployed amongst the new Indian cavalry.  The new semi-motorized cavalry divisions had their first taste of combat in one of the least risky situations one could imagine: they assaulted the rear of the Arab defenses that were already under severe strain from the numerically superior Turkestani army attacking from the north.  The important part was not whether or not they could beat the surrounded Arabs. Everybody assumed they could do that. What the Entente was most concerned with was if the Indian cavalry divisions could beat the Turkestanis to Persia’s precious oilfields.   The Indian cavalry, assured that Turkestan would not attack and risk all-out war with the Entente, was encouraged to advance with reckless abandon.   Turkestan was aware of what the Entente was attempting, and was trying itself to move south and capture Ahvaz, not only for its oil but for its port. They were much closer, but they were marching on foot while the Indians were advancing in fast moving columns of motorcycles.    The Indians won the race and began to advance into Iraq.    With the Persian client state split in two by India and its local rival, attention now turned to a region where the Indian cavalry’s mobility would truly pay off. Out of the mountains of Persia, great deserts and plains lay in between the Indian salient and the goal, the Suez Canal.  The initial push into Persia had been initiated by the handful of cavalry units already stationed in Balochistan and Sindh, but they were followed closely by a large corps of 10 divisions that was tasked with hunting and neutralizing the Arab armies moving to reinforce their collapsing eastern frontier.  The Indians moved hundreds of thousands of men across their narrow corridor across south Persia, who would then spill across Iraq and Arabia like a flood.  The main battle group headed south towards Arabia, giving chase to the largest Arab army in the area.  The hope was for that group to push right through to the Holy City before the Arabs could organize an effective defense after their rout from Persia.  Riyadh fell quickly, but the Indian cavalry was beginning to tire after a 1400 mile advance around the Persian Gulf from Gwadar to Riyadh.    Other smaller cavalry groups advanced into Syria and the Transjordan almost unopposed.  The attack on Mecca began to slow as the Arabs finally established an effective concentration of force.   No spirited defense was going to save the Arab bloc at this juncture however, as the Indians had effectively split the Arabs in three, surrounding and destroying their units in Kurdistan.  And finally the arrival of Indian infantry bringing up the rear of the fast cavalry broke the stalemate in Mecca.  It was none too soon. The fast maneuvers of the French and Japanese militaries had inspired militaries the world over, but the Indian cavalry units in Arabia were not quite as speedy as Japanese armor was on British roads and so the salient found itself in danger of being cut off.  Another bold advance by the Indians towards the canal was actually cut off, but thankfully the Indian Army in Palestine was close enough to quickly move to re-establish supply lines.  Unfortunately for the Indians, the campaign of maneuver and speed hit a major geographic obstacle in the form of the Suez Canal, a natural chokepoint. The Indians had the numbers to force their way across, but they would need time to regroup and plan a proper assault.  The capture of Mecca triggered the surrender of Arabia, leaving Egypt on its own and with a decent portion of its army trapped in the Transjordan.   However, the Indian’s zeal for rapid conquest had an unintended consequence, namely that it created a land border between the Entente and the proverbial mainland of the Internationale.  As the French units guarding what had once been a peaceful border crossed into Syria, the Indian mission to take the canal and the heart of Egypt took on new urgency. The sooner Egypt fell, the sooner they could link up with the Entente in Africa and redeploy to stem the French advance.   Port Said fell to the Indians after a short battle, and eight divisions poured across. Five turned south to secure Suez and fully block the canal to hostile forces, and three turned west to take Alexandria before the Egyptians could patch the hole in their lines.   The problem for the Egyptians is that most of their army had been trapped on the wrong continent and they had scant forces to defend their homeland.   Cairo was taken from both east and west. It only took a few days to fall, and with it fell the Arab bloc.  The quick collapse of the Egyptian defenses in Africa was a blessing, as it allowed the Indians to deploy forces in time to save Damascus.  The Entente attack on the neutral Arab Bloc was controversial, and India caught flak from its allies for its unilateral decision to attack, but their speed in preventing most of the Arab land from falling to Turkestan caused many to forget their protests. The Japanese, typically, took the lead in establishing a Sudanese rump state without consulting the Indian occupiers of north Sudan or the French occupiers of Darfur. The attack violated international norms, but it was hard for any pragmatist to argue that Entente control of the Canal and the oilfields was a bad thing. And besides, the Arabs would certainly be better off than if they had fallen to the fundamentalist menace of Turkestan? Either way, what was done was done, and the world’s attention quickly returned to the clash between the Entente and Internationale. ~*~News Items~*~   Sinn Fein Wins in Irish Elections, Bins Tricolour  Peru Challenges La Platan Hegemony in South America   National Protection Alliance Attacks Russian Bloc, Entente Vetoes Preemptive Strike ~*~*~ STRATEGY VOTE: The Attack on Fortress Europe PROBLEM: The seizure of the Middle East has resulted in engagement between the Internationale and Entente across the Turkish border with the defunct Arab bloc. Entente war planners are now tasked with deciding how to proceed in the war against the Internationale. The Internationale has, according to Entente intelligence estimates, in the neighborhood of 260 to 300 divisions in Europe. The Entente has: 70 divisions in the British Isles (including the high quality Japanese divisions) 125 divisions in North America waiting to be deployed to the British Isles 115 divisions in the Middle East or currently being deployed to the Middle East  The strategic question is whether to divert the divisions in North America towards the Middle Eastern front and designate that front as the primary axis of attack. Forces in the UK would be retained and used in secondary actions that would be decided later. The other option is to designate the Middle East the secondary front and hope that the divisions in the Middle East do the best that they can and create opportunities for the main attack force in the UK to attack the heart of the Internationale. Option A: Wait to Strike At France Itself North American divisions will marshal in the UK as planned and a decision will be reached at a later date with regards to assaulting a location or locations in Western Europe. quote:”The path through the Caucasus and Ukraine is circuitous and long. I would rather this war not turn into a long march through the syndicalist hinterlands. The entire Internationale is dependent upon France, and if we strike quick and viciously against France, the rest of the enemy will be weak and easy to push over!” – Omar Bradley, US Army General Option B: Concentrate Force Against Turkey North American divisions will marshal in Egypt and be used to push through the Caucasus and the Ukraine. Smaller operations in the west that do not target France itself will be decided at a later date. quote:”Those who propose such a bold action forget how dangerous the landings in Cornwall were. That was against a depleted Republican enemy who had lost half of its power during a Canadian misadventure. An amphibious assault in the West would be set upon by far more reinforcements and have a far greater task. Let us instead advance across the axis already secured for us. It will take longer, yes, but it puts us at much less risk.” – Bernard Montgomery, Royal Army Field Marshal
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A, we can't just invade Britain and then not have a wonderfully climactic D-Day analogue. This is supposed to be a fun side campaign, let's do all the crazy poo poo.
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