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sebmojo posted:Thud was a late one, and still good. And people say I shall wear midnight is ok. Its just the last few where theres a slump. I'm pretty sure Thud was pre-embuggerance
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Oct 7, 2017 20:25
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Thud! is fantastic; Wintersmith, Making Money, and I Shall Wear Midnight aren't highlights of the series or anything but they're still pretty enjoyable. Snuff is bad and I've heard Raising Steam is even worse? Apparently The Shepherd's crown is better but I can't bring myself to read it. 
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Oct 7, 2017 20:37
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Oct 7, 2017 20:50
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Raising Steam is essentially a "Going through the motions" book about tech with Von Liwpig - it feels like it's just doing what feels like should be in a Pratchett novel about progress, instead of actually being one.
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Oct 7, 2017 20:55
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sebmojo posted:Thud was a late one, and still good. And people say I shall wear midnight is ok. Its just the last few where theres a slump. All the Tiffany Aching books are great.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:09
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dmboogie posted:Thud! is fantastic; Wintersmith, Making Money, and I Shall Wear Midnight aren't highlights of the series or anything but they're still pretty enjoyable. The Shepard's Crown is more like a book outline than a real novel. The first half or so sets up quite a bit and the back half things just sort of happen in rapid succession in a way that screams "unfinished book". The way the story goes I almost feel like Pratchett meant for this to be the final Discworld book but never got a chance to properly finish it. I liked Raising Steam but I liked all the Moist books. It was always amusing to see the Watch from the other side.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:11
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Raising Steam was the first discworld novel that I had to put down because the prose & dialogue super rubbed me the wrong way. It was really disheartening and the main reason I haven't gotten around to The Shepherd's Crown. Night Watch is kinda interesting because it seems to me like a novel set in a fantasy universe with almost all the fantasy elements stripped out. Everybody in the main plot is human, the only magic there seems more to enable the premise than anything (Vimes goes back in time), and there's very few moments like the million-to-one thing back in Guards! Guards!.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:27
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Thud! Is still my favorite of all time, though Going Postal and Monstrous Regiment are very close behind. MR is probably the best introduction to feminism you can give someone, showing how sexism can be so deeply internalized that the victims themselves become their own co-oppressors.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:49
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Thud! Is still my favorite of all time, though Going Postal and Monstrous Regiment are very close behind. MR is probably the best introduction to feminism you can give someone, showing how sexism can be so deeply internalized that the victims themselves become their own co-oppressors. Honestly I'd say that men and women are both victims of sexism. Toxic masculinity is no fun for the boys it doesn't come naturally to. I think it was Jingo! that had women handing out white feathers to any fit young man who hadn't volunteered for the war yet. Didn't work on Nobby, of course. He just kept eagerly collecting shame feathers until he had enough for a pillow.
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Oct 7, 2017 22:43
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Facebook Aunt posted:Honestly I'd say that men and women are both victims of sexism. Toxic masculinity is no fun for the boys it doesn't come naturally to.
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Oct 7, 2017 22:53
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Poil posted:True, but it's kinda like the difference between stepping on a museum thumbtack and stepping on an escaped alligator lurking in the garden. You're only worth what you do, and your bank account defines you.
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Oct 7, 2017 23:17
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This is getting dangerously far from the topic at hand, which is Discworld I'd say the true Discworld experience starts with Guards Guards and ends with Thud, with the books in order.
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Tenebrais posted:This is getting dangerously far from the topic at hand, which is Discworld this is wyrd sisters erasure pyramids is pretty alright too i guess
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Facebook Aunt posted:Honestly I'd say that men and women are both victims of sexism. Toxic masculinity is no fun for the boys it doesn't come naturally to. He didn't say only women suffer from sexism.
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Who What Now posted:He didn't say only women suffer from sexism. To be fair, I don't think anyone here actually said it; and while my own statement may have inadvertently implied it, it was unintentional and unmeant as such. Speaking of non-sequiturs: did anyone here ever see that hilarious Rincewind fan-video someone made for Pterry when he attended a con in Australia? It has the wizard literally "meet his maker", and it is wonderful! Edit: Aha! Found the link: https://vimeo.com/1331679 TheAceOfLungs fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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I was listening to a podcast today that has my new favorite historical anecdote. Right before the Revolutions of 1848 Italian citizens were trying to put pressure on the Austrian government by basically denying them tax revenue. They decided the best way to do this would be to quit smoking and quit playing the lottery. Their goal was to do it peacefully and prevent the occupying Austrian armies from having an excuse to lay the hammer down. The Austrian General was this really clever old man who decided the best way to provoke them into doing something violent that he could crack down on would be to give every soldier in his army a bunch of cigars. He told them to smoke them publicly and in as much of an obnoxious way as possible. Oh, and also he doubled their rum ration. So all these Italian citizens are trying to quit smoking to put pressure on the Austrian government and Austrian soldiers are blowing cigar smoke in their face and just generally being huge gaping assholes. It ended up provoking a riot/disturbance with over 50 dead. History is better than Fiction.
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The Revolutions podcast is great! I really hope Rich hasn't been abducted by an army of starving housewives.
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nothing to seehere posted:Raising Steam is essentially a "Going through the motions" book about tech with Von Liwpig - it feels like it's just doing what feels like should be in a Pratchett novel about progress, instead of actually being one. Ugh, I'd completely forgotten about raising steam. It's the first and so far only book I didn't finish.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:38
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I couldn't go on after reading Snuff. 
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Thud! Is still my favorite of all time, though Going Postal and Monstrous Regiment are very close behind. MR is probably the best introduction to feminism you can give someone, showing how sexism can be so deeply internalized that the victims themselves become their own co-oppressors. Monstrous Regiment kind of fell flat at the end for me, I got tired of the deus ex machina that literally everyone but Blouse and Vimes are women. I really liked the first two thirds though, and Polly's character progression all the way to the end was fantastic.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Monstrous Regiment kind of fell flat at the end for me, I got tired of the deus ex machina that literally everyone but Blouse and Vimes are women. I really liked the first two thirds though, and Polly's character progression all the way to the end was fantastic. It was only a third of the high command. But that was kind of the joke/message of the story.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Monstrous Regiment kind of fell flat at the end for me, I got tired of the deus ex machina that literally everyone but Blouse and Vimes are women. I really liked the first two thirds though, and Polly's character progression all the way to the end was fantastic. I think I understand your feeling. But on the plus side, at least it passes the Bechdel test.
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TheAceOfLungs posted:I think I understand your feeling. But on the plus side, at least it passes the Bechdel test. So does Debbie Does Dallas.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Monstrous Regiment kind of fell flat at the end for me, I got tired of the deus ex machina that literally everyone but Blouse and Vimes are women. I really liked the first two thirds though, and Polly's character progression all the way to the end was fantastic. To be fair that's literally the entire point of the book right down to the title.
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Yeah, after a bit it wasn't meant to be surprise reveals to the reader, just... more of the way things were. And yeah, if you knew the reference the title tipped the whole thing from the start. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Oct 9, 2017 10:12
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The point of the book is, in part, that the country has run out of young men to send off to die. They've even run out of old men to send them.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:34
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The actual point of Pratchett's books was hoping rich was okay.
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ikanreed posted:The actual point of Pratchett's books was hoping rich was okay. I would trade rich being okay for an alive and okay Pratchett
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Shugojin posted:I would trade rich being okay for an alive and okay Pratchett But my all caps tribute posts would be meaningless
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Oct 9, 2017 18:28
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PMush Perfect posted:Can we have Douglas Adams back too? He'd probably just die again of some alcohol-related illness in a few months.
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honestly, i'm terrified a still-alive douglas adams would turn out to reveal him as terrible given his heavy leaning into the burgeoning new-atheists and where that whole mess has gone since then
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AriadneThread posted:honestly, i'm terrified a still-alive douglas adams would turn out to reveal him as terrible given his heavy leaning into the burgeoning new-atheists and where that whole mess has gone since then Nah, I can't think of any good writers who did that.
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Oct 9, 2017 23:55
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Ray Bradbury kinda spiraled in his old age.
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AriadneThread posted:honestly, i'm terrified a still-alive douglas adams would turn out to reveal him as terrible given his heavy leaning into the burgeoning new-atheists and where that whole mess has gone since then Eh, he was pals with Fry, who's managed to be heavily that way inclined without going down the total dick path.
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ikanreed posted:The actual point of Pratchett's books was hoping rich was okay. Where's my Rich? Is that my Rich? It goes "The next part will be text only". It's a Balder! That is not my Rich!
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Oct 10, 2017 02:16
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PMush Perfect posted:Ray Bradbury kinda spiraled in his old age. kinda? he turned into a loving maniac who tried to pretend his most famous book was about the opposite of what it was about
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mandatory lesbian posted:kinda? he turned into a loving maniac who tried to pretend his most famous book was about the opposite of what it was about
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mandatory lesbian posted:kinda? he turned into a loving maniac who tried to pretend his most famous book was about the opposite of what it was about He said Fahrenheit 451 was about how television culture harmed literacy. That's hardly maniacal. Unless there was more to that than I heard.
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