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I'd get a Grom if they were $1k new, but they seem insanely overpriced for what they are. Also not sure if I'd even fit on a Grom, I took the MSF class on a Honda 125cc eliminator and my knees were hitting my elbows when trying to steer hard. The instructor just told me it was going to be a lot easier when I was on a "real" bike.
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MomJeans420 posted:I'd get a Grom if they were $1k new, but they seem insanely overpriced for what they are. Also not sure if I'd even fit on a Grom, I took the MSF class on a Honda 125cc eliminator and my knees were hitting my elbows when trying to steer hard. The instructor just told me it was going to be a lot easier when I was on a "real" bike. How tall are you? I had an elim 125 for a while, and it was pretty comfy for my 6'1" height.
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Sep 29, 2017 21:11
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6'3", although it wasn't that it was uncomfortable, just that body parts would hit together that shouldn't. It's been a long time so I don't remember exactly how it felt, but I bet 2hrs on that bike (not on a freeway) would be more comfortable than 2 hrs on my current sport bike, which has a great position if I was at the track, not so great for hitting 10 stop signs in a row around town.
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Sep 29, 2017 21:49
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I'm about 5'9 and the bars smash into my knees on the Grom if I turn them hard. To be fair, though, it's like almost 180 degrees lock to lock on this thing. You really don't need to turn them that far and if you do it's probably easier to stand on the pegs anyway.
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[quote="“MomJeans420”" post="“476888434”"] I’d get a Grom if they were $1k new, but they seem insanely overpriced for what they are. [/quote] You know the grom isn't a Chinese scooter, right? It's still a Honda and everything that entails.
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Oct 1, 2017 16:06
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Hey cool, a dealership near me has three Groms on the showroom floor. I think I'm going to go see if I can talk them into letting me putt around on one tomorrow. It'll be like a bear at the circus.
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Oct 1, 2017 16:43
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So I got a flat about a month ago and jammed a rope plug in it, inflated and was back on the road. The fucker won't stay inflated now, and for the life of me no matter how much soap I spray on it I can't find where its leaking from. I rode about 400 miles last week and it went from 42 to 17psi. I don't really feel like buying tires right now but it looks like I will have to since I cannot trust the ones I have. 4300 miles on a set of roadtec 01s, and they look like they had another 2-3k left in them. Not bad tires but I don't like the way the rear squared off. Maybe a set of roadsmart 3s next.
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Oct 2, 2017 01:32
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rdb posted:So I got a flat about a month ago and jammed a rope plug in it, inflated and was back on the road. The fucker won't stay inflated now, and for the life of me no matter how much soap I spray on it I can't find where its leaking from. I rode about 400 miles last week and it went from 42 to 17psi. I don't really feel like buying tires right now but it looks like I will have to since I cannot trust the ones I have. Check your valve core/valve stem.
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Oct 2, 2017 01:38
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I hope there's a special place in hell for the jagoffs who jump the gun at four-way stops and decide to plow through the intersection when you're already halfway through it, then completely ignore you when you honk at them and refuse to acknowledge the fact that they just put another human being at risk of serious bodily harm.
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Oct 4, 2017 18:00
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Communist Walrus posted:I hope there's a special place in hell for the jagoffs who jump the gun at four-way stops and decide to plow through the intersection when you're already halfway through it, then completely ignore you when you honk at them and refuse to acknowledge the fact that they just put another human being at risk of serious bodily harm. Sir, this is why the founding fathers blessed us with the second amendment.
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Oct 4, 2017 21:37
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pokie posted:Sir, this is why the founding fathers blessed us with the second amendment. Why, so you can shoot yourself in the nuts at getting so mad at such an everyday occurrence? Real answer is this is why god gave us supermotos - so when it happens you can just do a wheelie and forget it ever happened.
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Oct 5, 2017 00:04
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Koruthaiolos posted:Why, so you can shoot yourself in the nuts at getting so mad at such an everyday occurrence? I am, of course, not serious. Instead just wheelie on top of their trunk. Ideally this is during winter and you have studded tires.
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I'd like to buy whoever designed the quantum sidestand switch on the 1000cc Aprilia vtwins a nice tall glass of iocane. Here's how I'd expect something like this to work: When it's down it closes or opens a circuit that the ECM reads, and then the ECM controls the circuits for the ignition cutout and the idiot light. Binary on/off. Works or doesn't. How it really works: It's a 3-pole switch with rotary action and tolerances the size of the Grand Canyon placed in the path of any sort of thrown oil or road grime. When it's down it closes a circuit to illuminate the idiot light. When it's up it closes a separate circuit to light up the ignition system. In no case does the circuit actually reach the ECM. What happens when the ignition side contacts are dirty or corroded or broken but the idiot light contact works fine? The bike still tells you the side stand is up or down accurately, but will intermittently leave you stranded or try to make you high side in a turn. It's-a good enough-a!
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Oct 5, 2017 22:21
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Hey at least it's not cast into the engine case, necessitating a new motor if you set it down too hard.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:18
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I'm about to cut and splice some wires up in this piece.
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clutchpuck posted:I'd like to buy whoever designed the quantum sidestand switch on the 1000cc Aprilia vtwins a nice tall glass of iocane. Honestly that sounds like far too much effort for an italian, it wouldn't surprise me if that particular bit was farmed out to a german firm.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:50
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So I am stupid/cheap and decided to check my leaking roadtec 01 for more holes. It now has 4 plugs in it, all in the same little area, 2 right next to each other, and I could have plugged a 5th little hole. I am afraid to ride on it at this point. Whats everyones opinion of dunlop roadsmart 3? I don't want to go back to metzeler. 
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Oct 6, 2017 16:42
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My opinion of all tires is this: Buy Michelin
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Oct 6, 2017 16:52
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:My opinion of all tires is this: Buy Michelin Pilot Roads are magic, it's true. God mode levels of grip in wet and dry alike. Unfortunately they're just as vulnerable to punctures as anything else 
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:My opinion of all tires is this: Buy Michelin Yeah, there's basically zero excuse, for road use for 99% of users, to buy anything other than PR3s or PR4s, they're almost cheating.
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Oct 6, 2017 17:01
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I buy PR3s -and- insurance for them because my luck is *that* bad.
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Oct 6, 2017 17:07
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How and where do I buy tyre insurance?
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Oct 6, 2017 17:08
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Cyclegear sells it, I use them because I like talkin to the guys who work there.
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Oct 6, 2017 17:10
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So that tire insurance got me thinking I should just buy from cycle gear. They only have a dunlop q3+ in 190/55/17. No Michelins. Still thinking I will give them a try, since they are in stock.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:07
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I'll offer the counter advice of Angel GTs
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah, there's basically zero excuse, for road use for 99% of users, to buy anything other than PR3s or PR4s, they're almost cheating. I'm cheap and keep buying Bridgestone BT-023s, I think they're almost as good as PRs (for commuting, anyway).
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I ride with the Angel GT and love it, but they don't grip as well as the PR4 in wet or dry. Their advantage is that you can usually squeeze more miles out of them since they're a harder compound. Still great tires, though.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:My opinion of all tires is this: Buy Michelin
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Some people like different things. I like the longevity and wet grip of pilot roads/powers but the feel leaves a lot to be desired; PR4's especially feel really nervous when leaned and like they're never up to temperature for me. Angel GT's are an excellent alternative and feel much more sporty; actual Pirelli sportbike tyres blow other brands out of the water as far as I'm concerned, only dunlops get close to the kind of feel you get. Dunlop roadsmarts are also really, really good. But also retarded expensive and horrible to mount.
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Razzled posted:Cyclegear sells it, I use them because I like talkin to the guys who work there. Oh poo poo, really? gently caress Amazon, that'll be where I buy my tires henceforth. I plugged the Ninja once and the SV twice in 10k mi.
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Slavvy posted:Some people like different things. I like the longevity and wet grip of pilot roads/powers but the feel leaves a lot to be desired; PR4's especially feel really nervous when leaned and like they're never up to temperature for me. Angel GT's are an excellent alternative and feel much more sporty; actual Pirelli sportbike tyres blow other brands out of the water as far as I'm concerned, only dunlops get close to the kind of feel you get. Maybe its the whole NZ import thing, but here a set of PR4s is close to $375 US, whereas a set of road smart 3s is $314, and if you time it right usually a rebate. The last one was $100, which would have made the roadsmarts nearly half price. This is for 190/55R17 and 120/70R17. Same with the metzeler roadtec 01s I have on now, $100 cheaper for the set compared to PR4s, I figured how bad could they be. And they weren't bad, just a little squirmy when leaned over if the road was less than perfect. Heading to cycle gear now. I will report back on the q3+ once I get them installed this afternoon. Not expecting huge mileage out of these but if they perform like the diablo rosso 2s the bike came with I will be happy. Especially with a road hazard warranty.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Seriously. Why does anyone else even bother making tires? Metzeler elephant lean angle indicator outweighs all else in tire selection.
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Roadtec 01s have replaced the Pilot Road 4 as my tire of choice. Also, clutchpuck, goddamn that is Italian af.
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So cyclegear does offer road hazard, but only if they install them. It would have been $25 per tire for installation and an additional $25 for road hazard, which only replaces the tire if its within certain wear. So $100 extra, and thats if I brought the rims and tires off the bike. I passed.
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Koruthaiolos posted:Metzeler elephant lean angle indicator outweighs all else in tire selection. Michelin has the little bibendum man holding up the lean, but it isn't as good as the elephant, you're right. 
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Or you can just ride without paying attention to the little ego stroking mold the marketing division of a tire manufacturer added to the design of a okay tire they make.
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I want to know what Michelin's come with a colored logo so I can flaunt my superior purchasing decisions to the public.
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rdb posted:Maybe its the whole NZ import thing, but here a set of PR4s is close to $375 US, whereas a set of road smart 3s is $314, and if you time it right usually a rebate. The last one was $100, which would have made the roadsmarts nearly half price. This is for 190/55R17 and 120/70R17. Same with the metzeler roadtec 01s I have on now, $100 cheaper for the set compared to PR4s, I figured how bad could they be. And they weren't bad, just a little squirmy when leaned over if the road was less than perfect. It is definitely the import monopoly thing, roadsmarts are about $100/pair more than PR4's here. Angel GT's and Metzlers are the cheapest not-poo poo ST tyres you can get.
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Slavvy posted:Honestly that sounds like far too much effort for an italian, it wouldn't surprise me if that particular bit was farmed out to a german firm. Spain.
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Slavvy posted:Some people like different things. I like the longevity and wet grip of pilot roads/powers but the feel leaves a lot to be desired; PR4's especially feel really nervous when leaned and like they're never up to temperature for me. Angel GT's are an excellent alternative and feel much more sporty; actual Pirelli sportbike tyres blow other brands out of the water as far as I'm concerned, only dunlops get close to the kind of feel you get. ^^^^This^^^^ PR4s let my traction control kick in in even in what I would consider moderate throttle levels, but they are great in the wet. The Pirellis may be my next choice, but, I have to ask, do they have the triangular section that I never found comforting? Failing that, the Dunlops may be my next choice.
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