Frijolero posted:

People talk about Bernie being fairly moderate. People talk about how progressive other Dems are, but how many major politicians are talking like this:

ThndrShk2k posted:

The recursive proof loop for the 2016 nominee fanatics should hopefully die before the end of the 2018 election cycle.

loquacius posted:

Fine, I'll link the salt, sheesh

https://twitter.com/lynnv378/status/916356551664914433

Jazerus posted:

it will never die

peter daou lxvii will be screaming about bernie in the year 3000

Concerned Citizen posted:

The Muppets On PCP posted:

how many teraflops is a BernieFlop?

will it unlock mode 7 on my mmx-enabled pentium ii?

ThndrShk2k posted:

MaxxBot posted:

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/916746647958376451
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/916355841481216002

docbeard posted:

It is entirely possible to not obsessively follow everything that blowhard idiots like Bill Mitchell and Peter Daou say and do.

I mean, I just offer it as an alternative.

quote:

On Tuesday night, Randall Woodfin scored an upset of the two-term Democratic mayor of Birmingham, Alabama, to become the youngest mayor (he's 36) in the Magic City in more than 100 years. Woodfin's campaign became something of a cause celebre among national liberal activists aligned with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Nina Turner, the head of Our Revolution, the organization Sanders formed post-2016, was an active presence for Woodfin in the race. Sanders recorded a robo-call that went out Monday saying that Woodfin would fight for racial justice, sanctuary city status for Birmingham and his own "Medicare for All" plan, and sent out a tweet urging people to go to the polls and one congratulating Woodfin on his victory.

Interestingly, Woodfin was a Hillary Clinton supporter during the 2016 campaign, serving as her state director in Alabama.

Jazerus posted:

it will never die

peter daou lxvii will be screaming about bernie in the year 3000

Mc Do Well posted:

DOUGIE!

Grondoth posted:

Means tested frog dogs? Common sense non-partisan solutions... piled high?

Over Easy posted:

What do these people even want from anybody anymore?

you lost because of your insane striving people, stop trying to strive insanely out of this mess!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/tuscaloosadems/status/916378004292587520

Mc Do Well posted:

... call for help.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Don't see how anyone could complain about Hillary's integrity; she doesn't have any!
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/tuscaloosadems/status/916378004292587520

quote:

Concerned about the possibility of extradition to the United States, Mr. Rivera said they paid more than $400,000 in bribes to President Porfirio Lobo, before and after his November 2009 election. At President Lobo’s home in early 2010, Mr. Rivera received the assurance he wanted.

“The president said to me to tell my brother not to worry,” Mr. Rivera recalled, “because during his four-year term nobody would get extradited.”

President Lobo also designated his son Fabio, who was once a juvenile court judge, “as a middleman who would be able to protect us, help us — the Cachiros,” Mr. Rivera said.

Fabio Lobo became a valuable ally. “I gave him a bribe almost every time I met with him,” Mr. Rivera said. “I knew that having him with me, everything would go well.”

quote:

State-sponsored repression continues. According to Cofadeh, at least 43 campesino activists participating in land struggles in the Aguán Valley have been killed in the past two and a half years at the hands of the police, the military and the private security army of Miguel Facussé. Mr. Facussé is mentioned in United States Embassy cables made public by WikiLeaks as the richest man in the country, a big supporter of the post-coup regime and owner of land used to transfer cocaine.
And yet, in early October, Mr. Obama praised Mr. Lobo at the White House for leadership in a “restoration of democratic practices.” Since the coup the United States has maintained and in some areas increased military and police financing for Honduras and has been enlarging its military bases there, according to an analysis by the Fellowship of Reconciliation. Congress, though, has finally begun to push back. Last May, 87 members signed a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton calling for a suspension of military and police aid to Honduras. Representative Howard L. Berman of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, wrote to her on Nov. 28, asking whether the United States was arming a dangerous regime.

quote:

Clinton had personal connections with supporters of the coup government that may have led her to soften her stance. For instance, Lanny Davis, Bill Clinton’s former personal lawyer and a longtime Hillary Clinton supporter, lobbied in Washington for the Honduran coup government, Honduran elites, the Business Council of Latin America, and the American companies that took issue with Zelaya’s reforms. Bennett Ratcliff, another top Democratic campaigner with close ties to the Clintons, also worked for the Honduran coup government as a lobbyist in Washington. These personal connections to advocates for the coup government raise troubling concerns that political ties influenced Clinton’s stance.

joepinetree posted:

So this came out today:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/world/americas/after-78-killings-a-honduran-drug-lord-rivera-partners-with-us.html?_r=0


If the name Lobo reminds you of anything, it's probably this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/opinion/in-honduras-a-mess-helped-by-the-us.html


and this:

http://harvardpolitics.com/united-states/us-honduran-coup/



So for Clinton a guy in the pockets of drug dealers is preferable to a left wing president.

Mc Do Well posted:

... call for help.

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

christ this is deranged even by daou standards, what will this dude’s podcast be like

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/916821123647537152

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

christ this is deranged even by daou standards, what will this dude’s podcast be like

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/916821123647537152

Thoguh posted:

I'd be amazed if Trump hasn't cost the US a decent number of sources in foreign governments.

Grondoth posted:

You don't get to talk smack to nobody

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I've got my fingers crossed for MEMRI tv quality content.