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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

a hole-y ghost posted:

Trust me, like 90% of people who do go to art school never get that either.

Yeah this

I'll very strongly consider making a harsh critique thread, I'm not sure what would make a helpful OP but it might not need much since all I really want is specific feedback and not necessarily a big list of resources and stuff

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PortalFreak
Oct 29, 2016

God's true gift to mankind is 007 Nightfire for the Nintendo GameCube.
Update on my bizarre little project (HAR HAR HAR I AM FUNI). Did the lines of the Russian dude and his STANDO, also did the guy's colors. Thoughts?

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Wowporn posted:

I'll very strongly consider making a harsh critique thread, I'm not sure what would make a helpful OP but it might not need much since all I really want is specific feedback and not necessarily a big list of resources and stuff

Maybe a small guide on how to give good critique (like remembering to offer advice on how to fix problems)? An example on what you'd say on a terrible piece of art to give people an idea of what they may expect?


I drew eye capsules. I love eye capsules.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
Inktober beginneth!

Theokotos
Jan 22, 2015

Fallen Rib

Sharpest Crayon posted:


I drew eye capsules. I love eye capsules.



This is cute, even though the concept of eye capsules grosses me out if I think about it for too long.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Inktober floats.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Inktober! Yay!

PortalFreak
Oct 29, 2016

God's true gift to mankind is 007 Nightfire for the Nintendo GameCube.
Just finished this, might add a proper background sometime but as for now, I like how it came out.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



underage at the vape shop posted:

Where should I start with learning to draw?

Going off what Franchescanado posted, I would highly recommend starting with Proko's free video library, as I think it's an excellent resource for what it costs.

The most essential skill that you want to master - aside from basic pencil control - is the ability to properly visualize 3D forms on a 2D (paper) surface. What I mean by this is simply being able to draw and position 3D objects like cubes, cylinders, and cones on a piece of paper. This might seem tremendously mundane, but it is arguably the cornerstone to all successful drawing, regardless of the kind of art style you're aiming for. You should fill page after page after page with boxes, cylinders, and cones, because what you're training yourself to do with this repetition is to be able to intuit 3-dimensionality. Take a look at this drawing demo from Glenn Vilppu. Notice how he starts to suddenly fill in the volumes of the gestures he's drawn without much thought: part of this is knowledge of anatomy, but the larger part is that he's trained himself well enough to be able to "see" the 3D form in his mind's eye and understand how it's positioned. This all sounds really odd and mystical, but it's really merely a skill that you'll naturally acquire as you practice.

The second most essential skill is understanding gesture: the way in which our eyes follow the "flow" of an object, and how to create an appealing flow from top to bottom. This one takes a while to master, because the concept is difficult to explain, and it's based far more on feeling than any scientific or mathematical approach. Proko goes more in-depth on it, as does Vilppu in the video I linked above. The best tip I can give for learning this is to stay loose and let your hand following what your eyes are seeing, rather than overthinking the gesture and coming out with something stiff and awkward after.

The third most essential skill is understanding value (light and shadow). Once you understand value, you can give true 3-dimensional depth to just about any object, even if you couldn't normally define it with lines. Don't start learning color until you get the basics of value down, because color makes everything about ten times harder compared to a simple value exercise.

Once you understand these things pretty down pat, everything else is simply knowledge. Drawing a human body becomes a matter of understanding its volumes so that you can visualize and draw them. Drawing a mountain becomes a matter of understanding its volumes so that you can visualize and draw them. Drawing anything past this point really is merely a matter of acquiring enough knowledge that you can draw it successfully. Don't be afraid to use reference, but do be afraid of merely copying the lines that you see, rather than visualizing the forms. Most of all, be patient with yourself: everything you draw at first will look bad, and you'll get frustrated with your inability to properly express the images in your head onto paper, but keep a constant schedule of practice and you will eventually succeed.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Wowporn posted:

Yeah this

I'll very strongly consider making a harsh critique thread, I'm not sure what would make a helpful OP but it might not need much since all I really want is specific feedback and not necessarily a big list of resources and stuff
Do it bud, just make sure to use the :siren:sirens boldy text warning of please do not post your work here if you suspect harsh criticism will cause you to curl up and fade away like a leaf in winter:siren:

In fact I'm thinking that the OP should consist mainly of various warnings and disclaimers in big bold letters. I also think it would be neat to have it open to all art media: drawings, design, literature, sculpture, etc.

Feel free to criticise my idea, just workshoppin' ideas here :grin:

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

a hole-y ghost posted:

Do it bud, just make sure to use the :siren:sirens boldy text warning of please do not post your work here if you suspect harsh criticism will cause you to curl up and fade away like a leaf in winter:siren:

I'd be less concerned with them fading away like a leaf in winter and more concerned with people making GBS threads up the thread arguing against critiques they received. If such a thread were to exist I think having some clearly laid out, mod-enforced rules that would result in probations/bans for breaking them would be a good thing. Just take a look at the digital art thread for what happens otherwise.

In other news I am insane and attempting Inktober this year while working more than full time and attempting to raise a 5-month-old baby into a functioning human being.



I'm ignoring the official prompts (and drawing digitally as well) to create some characters for a weird fantasy bluegrass/D&D themed world. I'm already a day behind so we're off to a great start.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

gmc9987 posted:

I'd be less concerned with them fading away like a leaf in winter and more concerned with people making GBS threads up the thread arguing against critiques they received. If such a thread were to exist I think having some clearly laid out, mod-enforced rules that would result in probations/bans for breaking them would be a good thing. Just take a look at the digital art thread for what happens otherwise.
What's wrong with the digital art thread :mrgw:

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Day two of inktober.

R.I.P. Tom Petty.



Ballpoint and copics. FYI alchohol based markers will make ballpoint ink bleed if you don't wait long enough for it to dry. Woops.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

a hole-y ghost posted:

What's wrong with the digital art thread :mrgw:

Well, right now I guess nothing. But certain pages work really well as examples of how not to respond to critiques of your work.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
NEVERMORE


Edit: also, Medusa

Davedave24 fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 4, 2017

Sk8ers4Christ
Mar 10, 2008

Lord, I ask you to watch over me as I pop an ollie off this 50-foot ramp. If I fail, I'll be seeing you.

Some progress:



Critiques?

Davedave24 posted:

NEVERMORE


Love this.

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009


gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007


I'm posting all my inktober stuff on my tumblr as well, http://mcthrill.tumblr.com.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

What's this? UwU *bleh*
(It's the cutest nosferatu)


I actually really like that the markers have made the lines bleed, it makes for a nice smooth edge and takes away a lot of the harshness of the ballpoint.

Jake Snake posted:




Critiques?

Doing fine for everything except the lower half of the chestpiece. I would reconsider the lower edge form completely, since currently it looks like there's a piece that should be jutting straight into the legplate that's coming out from under it, and as a result, the leg looks tacked-on. Other option would be to continue the shadow of the armour way further down the legplate to make a smooth transition from underneath to over. The other leg sorta looks like it doesn't wanna be here and is trying to escape into the clutter, you might get away with painting it completely in the shadow and leaving just a highlight to line the form.


I made a wizard

Theokotos
Jan 22, 2015

Fallen Rib
Picked up an old project-beginning of a new part of it (game show host)

Sk8ers4Christ
Mar 10, 2008

Lord, I ask you to watch over me as I pop an ollie off this 50-foot ramp. If I fail, I'll be seeing you.

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Doing fine for everything except the lower half of the chestpiece. I would reconsider the lower edge form completely, since currently it looks like there's a piece that should be jutting straight into the legplate that's coming out from under it, and as a result, the leg looks tacked-on. Other option would be to continue the shadow of the armour way further down the legplate to make a smooth transition from underneath to over. The other leg sorta looks like it doesn't wanna be here and is trying to escape into the clutter, you might get away with painting it completely in the shadow and leaving just a highlight to line the form.

Thank you! Just to clarify, is this the piece of the armor you're talking about?



Here's a quick rework based on your critique and someone else's, who PM'd me.



Made the legs a bit longer, changed the pose slightly, hid the one leg in shadow, and changed the shape of the armor. Better, I hope?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Already struggling to get Inktober ideas under the wire.

No critiques needed. Right shoulder's hosed up, shading's lazy, and boots are a horror show. I do like how the hammer turned out and I think I found this year's Christmas card theme.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love

Sharpest Crayon posted:

I made a wizard



I love this!

For todays inktober, a quick Frankenstein


And I tried out making a time-lapse recording of the inking process - https://youtu.be/rWF4thqFemw

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

4th inktober is my little tribute to Popaganda / Ron English.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Jake Snake posted:



Better, I hope?

Yep, that's the spot all right. That leg looks a lot more natural now as well. Keep going, you got this.


Another animal mage, poison bunny!

I know it looks like farts, shut up.

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO


3 minute doodle

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
Gill-man!

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Another animal mage, poison bunny!

I know it looks like farts, shut up.

I like your animal mages.



Her cloak is made from duck feathers, she adds a single feather to it every year on her birthday.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

I love this! Sometimes you spend hours working on something that just looks terrible, and sometimes you spend 3 mins doodling and create High Art.

gmc9987 posted:




Her cloak is made from duck feathers, she adds a single feather to it every year on her birthday.

How goddamn old is she? Resisting the urge to count feathers, betting on 200 years or so.


Rat Grunt

Radio du Cambodge
Dec 3, 2007

Some loose doodles





And a longer go at a portrait of a girl off a soft-core porn site, tried a kind of challenging facial expression, didn't quite get a likeness (she is scrunching her face and sticking her tongue out in the actual photo) but it was fun.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
ive been playing a ton of breath of the wild

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

She looks like she has nothing but contempt for me, which is probably spot-on if you got the image from a softporn site.


Spooky scary necromancers

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
Sadako!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
spooky graveyard

Radio du Cambodge
Dec 3, 2007



spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
This was just having fun teasing poster "Burt Sexual."

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spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Here's second day using pastels

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spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
And my favorite from day 3,

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