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Plus since you ult before you use rage it will get the lower cdr before you heal and lose it
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its curtains for Kevin posted:I can see ER being good as a first item since you get cdr when you have rage I've been doing Tiamat > PD > ER (with 'Zerkers somewhere in there). Tiamat has been outstanding for allowing tons of early push pressure, and the active means you can lay an auto-active-E on someone under turret and not even tank turret shots if you time it properly. Having tried the PD first thing I've seen a few others do I don't particularly like it. I may give ER rush an attempt just for kicks.
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The big reason ER first isn't that great normally is because it requires a crit item to actually let the passive do something. Tryndamere basically ignores that so I can see it being quite useful
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Oct 8, 2017 00:35
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Do you Upgrade the tiamat ever?
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its curtains for Kevin posted:The big reason ER first isn't that great normally is because it requires a crit item to actually let the passive do something. Tryndamere basically ignores that so I can see it being quite useful Rygar201 posted:Do you Upgrade the tiamat ever? Once I get every other item slot filled I turn it into Hydra, but otherwise it's there to help me absolutely demolish your waves, jungle, and as a harass tool. I actually killed someone with it since it's got range.
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I don't give a crap about countering tryndamere lol who cares about tryndamere
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Yeah let's just say all these noobies I see picking xin into my top off-tank Morgana... haha... good luck kid.
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Mikujin posted:Where are you stuck? There's a couple really cool places to check out. Barring that, go get a juicy lucy (at a good place not some chain) they're great. MSP airport. Methanar fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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Oct 8, 2017 01:50
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jax is actually the perfect counter to tryndamere because of his e, Counter Strike: Global Offensive.
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jax is fine vs trynd. just don't die at level 2 and you're good
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Oct 8, 2017 02:52
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I'm waaaay late to LS chat but I was watching his stream the other day and he was telling his viewers that him streaming solo-q for literally 18-24 hours straight isn't a sedentary lifestyle because he has high APM
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Poppy seems really good into Trynd (or I've just been running into very bad Trynds.) If she gets a good slam on him she can kill him before 6 and after 6 she's just straight up a more useful champion to have on your team. I feel like bramble rush is never as useful as Bami's though. (Poppy's waveclear is poopy without it.) Usually go Bami's > Boots > Bramble > finish Sunfire > decide if I need MR or can finish the Thornmail.
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I played a game last night against Kayle, Master Yi, Corki, Vayne and Janna and literally everyone except our Sona rushed Ninja Tabi and Bramble vest, even our Caitlyn, and Sona got them after ardent and sight stone. They never stood a chance.Monicro posted:I'm waaaay late to LS chat but I was watching his stream the other day and he was telling his viewers that him streaming solo-q for literally 18-24 hours straight isn't a sedentary lifestyle because he has high APM He hasn't streamed since I talked to him on discord and I'm actually starting to wonder if speaking to a normal person broke his brain and he's mentally regrouping, can't wait though.
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Verviticus posted:jax is fine vs trynd. just don't die at level 2 and you're good The Jax picked I've been up against didn't get your memo.
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Doesn't poppy almost completely negate trynd as champion pretty much
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Luna Was Here posted:Doesn't poppy almost completely negate trynd as champion pretty much Cool if true
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Teikanmi posted:
Why would you think that? Did he talk to someone else after he talked to you?
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Riot posted:You can earn up to three icons, one per ranked queue. Remember: Challenger in Twisted Treeline is still Challenger, no matter what anyone says! I laughed. So apparently there are chromas for Graves depending on which queue you got him which is frankly kinda boring compared to what they should have done, add chromas for Plat+. But oh well.
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So I usually lasthit the first jungle creep with smite and my friends who have played a lot more are convinced that this is a terrible idea and that I should save it for the 2nd one, but can't explain why (other than saying "because you get help for the first one but not the second one"). The way I see it, as long as I make full use of the damage and heal from Smite it doesn't really matter. I'll be tanking the first monster anyway so I'll need the heal, who gives a gently caress if I smite the 1st or 2nd monster as long as I'm making full use of both the heal and damage from Smite? It's probably still a better idea to use it on the 2nd one because you'll be lvl2 by then and your smite will be slightly stronger, but the difference is tiny anyway. Am I missing something obvious?
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More likely to get invaded on the second buff and end up in a fight to secure it, which you'll lose if they have smite and you don't.
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You regen on your way from one buff to the other so you waste a lot of free hp. There's no reason not to save smite if you are getting a leash
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To be clear in this case I was killing the blue, then the frog. I take it I'm supposed to go blue to red? It makes sense to smite the 2nd one either way, it's just they couldn't come up with any of these arguments so I was kinda confused.
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Elman posted:To be clear in this case I was killing the blue, then the frog. I take it I'm supposed to go blue to red? It depends on the matchup, if you don't think you are going to be invaded you can do a camp on the way to your second buff so you hit lvl 3 off of the buff.
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Work Friend Keven posted:Why would you think that? Did he talk to someone else after he talked to you? Not that I'm aware of
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Elman posted:So I usually lasthit the first jungle creep with smite and my friends who have played a lot more are convinced that this is a terrible idea and that I should save it for the 2nd one, but can't explain why (other than saying "because you get help for the first one but not the second one"). every jungler starts doing 1 camp but there is a possibility of a jungle invading your 2nd camp. taking longer means if someone shows up to pilfer your poo poo you lose almost every fight as you had previously been doing battle with a monster. but the secret trick is if you do not smite 1st camp you can try to peer pressure your laners into helping you do the buff for longer which speeds up your clear, but makes them lose maybe 1cs or something
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You have to look at it from a dps perspective for it to make sense. Your smite's cd only lets you use it once by the time you do 2 buff. At the first buff, your allies are helping you dps the monster, which means that the burst damage that smite has means less since you are grouped up to hit the monster. When you are alone, smite's flat 500 or whatever is much more meaningful because you are by yourself and don't have the same team dps applied to that monster. Example. You are are red buff, with bot lane. You don't use smite, they help you get it low. It takes 10 seconds to kill the monster. You are at red buff, with bot lane. You use smite, they help you get it to 450 so you can smite. It takes 7 seconds to kill the monster. You are at blue buff, alone. You do not smite the blue buff. You need 14 seconds to clear the camp. You are at blue buff, alone. You smite the blue buff. You clear the camp in 8 seconds, saving you almost half the clear time and lots of health.
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its curtains for Kevin posted:You have to look at it from a dps perspective for it to make sense. Your smite's cd only lets you use it once by the time you do 2 buff. At the first buff, your allies are helping you dps the monster, which means that the burst damage that smite has means less since you are grouped up to hit the monster. When you are alone, smite's flat 500 or whatever is much more meaningful because you are by yourself and don't have the same team dps applied to that monster. What?  I'm not grouped up when I kill the first camp, my teammates leave when it's around 700hp so I still have to burn through a lot of HP whether I use smite or not. The fact that I got help for the first half of the fight doesn't change the fact that I still have to finish it off.
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It's a huge waste to use it on the very jungle buff. It'll be more useful if you're invaded at your second buff because you'll be able to shoot up in hp as opposed to having no way to gain burst healing. It's not only to burst the mob down but it's also to get back some of the HP you're going to lose. For example, I play J4 a lot lately, and take a refillable potion and the machete, go thunderlords and a flat AD red and quints / armor yellow runepage. The first buff my teammates help me knock down, and I'll do wolves or gromp, then the second buff, and I'm nearly getting killed by it. I smite and finish out the second buff with about 50% to 60% hp and take the crab just to regen a bit more so when I gank I don't get easily killed in the 2v1 or the potential 2v2. You want to be as healthy as possible because giving doubles can potentially ruin a lane completely. Your friends leaving the mob with 700hp are probably not giving you a thorough enough leash tbh, or you're not using your abilities. Just about all the folks I play with stick around for a decent bit and manage to make it to their creeps in time. You want the smite for your second buff for most junglers, with maybe exceptions being like Nunu and Ivern, who are way different.
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That's their fault. They should be staying until like 200 hp
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Does Gold have decay, or can I sit back and moon people with my Graves skin?
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Silver 2 and 1 was incredibly toxic to climb past until I learned how to carry every game as support taliyah. Then I didn't play for like a year but am still in gold V apparently so I think once you make gold you're set.
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Yeah you won't decay out of gold. Just 2 more wins and I'm in, Malz mid has been a pretty free climb this season.
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It was SMART to smite 1st buff when smite only had one charge because you wanted it on cooldown asap. Now that smite has 2 charges you want to wait till you can get the fastest clear time with it, which usually means smiting 2nd camp (depending on your hero) because you'll get better use of the health boost + a better clear time. It's also good to smite the camp right before you want to gank so you're as healthy as possible. If you get a poo poo leash you may in fact want to smite 1st buff but you got a poo poo leash and it's going to slow your clear no matter when you smite.
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I just played Teemo from Silver 4 to Gold 5 and all I did was splitpush.
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Servaetes posted:Brackhar works for Riot again but I doubt he posts or gives a poo poo about SA Yeah, I'm the lead on Stonehearth now. I rarely read SA these days, but someone let me know you guys mentioned me, so hi!
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Is there a way to beat Teemo as Yorick in top lane, or do I resign myself to a terrible fate?
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