Grimdude posted:

Why would you evolve to make yourself taste like something sweet and delicious that's known for being widely loved this time of year? Or is it supposed to be funny because the shark's all "you kidding me?" and is gonna eat the fish because his evolutionary trait is stupid?

It's not funny either way I guess so who cares.

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FishBulb posted:

I always assumed it was just dudes hating a "girl" thing

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Lurdiak posted:

It's this one.

litany of gulps posted:

There's actually a backlash specifically against pumpkin spice flavors in some circles. I think it's an anti-Starbucks thing, with their pumpkin spice lattes. I know that sounds ridiculous.

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Jonas Albrecht posted:

The #Resistance has co-opted Kapaernick's protest, a good cartoon.

Tardigrade posted:

I wonder what's different about those two guys. Surely it can't be the distinctly different way they've been colored.

Fulchrum posted:

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Fulchrum posted:

Its even easier to support a position when you hold no office and don't need to get elected, when the position is just something to support your holier-than-thou attitude and not something that affects your life.

Seriously, most of the leftists here are saying that politicians should have all laid down their careers and gotten voted out, despite never having risked anything in THEIR life for these positions. Who here has, in their lives, been likely to lose their jobs for supporting gay marriage? Show of hands? No, not for being gay, for supporting gay marriage, there is a difference. Now imagine that if you lost your job, the guy who replaced you would absolutely drag LGBT rights backwards and make life actively worse for gay people. Seem like a good idea to throw your career down the toilet all for the sake of that precious, precious purity?

Dimebags Brain posted:

I’ve been beaten and kicked in the face repeatedly for being gay. Excuse if I don’t give a gently caress about millionaire lawyers losing a cushy gig for not caring about my rights as a human being until there was no danger in it. You loving dick.

Streak posted:

hillary clinton listened to this advice and then lost to trump in the end lmao

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My cousin, a marine posted:

The first time I saw Colin sit, I was hurt.

I think the word I probably used was that I felt disrespected, but a more honest way to say it would be I was hurt.
For better or worse, that flag and that song are very much a part of who I am. And while I'd never advocate for compulsory patriotism, It hurt the first time I watched someone consciously remain seated while we paid our respect.

But it worked. It started a conversation.

People talked, and listened. People yell and retort; and if we're really lucky we learned something. We learned that there are a lot of Americans who are upset and disappointed about America. Furious and frustrated by the realities of their lives here. Americans who are hurt. Americans who really didn't think America was such a great place to be sometimes.

And that hurt.

It was hard for me to cope with the idea that people weren't proud to be here. We've plenty to be embarrassed about, sure. There's never been a nation as powerful as us and we haven't always been wise in weilding that. But our greatest acheivement, our beautiful, ongoing experiment, is this idea that each and every person had the right to act, think, talk, vote, and BE more or less who and how they wanted, and that was something I thought everyone took a lot of pride in.

But it's hard to be proud of something you don't see in your life. Most people will tell you that actions speak louder than words, and even though every American had these inalieable rights on paper, There were a lot of people who didn't see them. People who often times have trouble being heard, who'se opinions get lost in the noise and complaining of millions of voters all trying to get what they want - those people drowned out by the majority. There will always be have and have-nots in America, that's the nature of capitalism. But there's no such thing as an American who doesn't have those rights. By definition, that's what comes with being an American.

And if our neighbors aren't proud, if they're hurting, and they're angry, then we should be hurt, and we should be angry. We humans need one another, we rely on each other. We as a species are not designed to live alone but are an animal who thrives in community. And if parts of our community are hurting, than we're all hurting. It hurt to watch people send the message that they weren't proud of our community. To sit and hurt in front of all of us, in public and in ridicule.

And it hurt that we were paying more attention to the symptems than to the cause of our pain. As long as we keep doing so, it's not going to stop hurting.

Maybe if we want to not be hurt by the fact that people aren't proud to stand and honor America, we should start listening to why some people aren't proud to be part of this tribe. Maybe a lot of the problems that are easy to ignore because they're far away from us aren't going to go away. Maybe we're so wrapped up in how much we're hurting, or how proud we are as indivudals - that we lose sight of how much all of us are hurting.

It hurt when Colin sat.

I want everyone to stand for that flag and that song. That's selfish, and that's honest. But I don't want people to stand because they have to - because they'll be ridiculed if they don't. I want Americans to stand because we're all proud that that flag represents us. Proud that it represents each of as an individual, and proud that it represents US. If people aren't proud enough to stand with us, maybe we should wonder if we aren't being too proud to sit with them. Why we aren't sitting down for a drink and a conversation with people who don't look like us? Why we aren't sitting down at a table nearer people we might disagree with? Why aren't we sitting down and talking to people who challenge our very selfish views of America, people who make us grow.

Some times growth hurts a lot. Put on your big-boy pants, America, We're all in this together.

Fulchrum posted:

Right, leftists refused to understand the very very simple concept that more republicans=bad, and Trump won.

Fulchrum posted:

And more Republicans getting elected would have improved your life how exactly?


Right, leftists refused to understand the very very simple concept that more republicans=bad, and Trump won.

Somfin posted:

It hurt when Colin sat.

Regalingualius posted:

Why do you seem so convinced that supporting BASIC GODDAMN RIGHTS before it magically reached a tipping point in public support would've cost elections, instead of, I dunno, galvanizing people that much sooner by showing that both parties aren't the same?

Samurai Sanders posted:

I appreciate this guy writing this and changing as a person but I'm still no closer to understanding what it feels like to hurt at something related to the flag and anthem. I read about the flag burning etc stuff in school but it was just weird words with no feeling of reality to me.

Fulchrum posted:

Wait, you seriously don't understand the concept of patriotism?

Ularg posted:

I'd like to ask anyone who feels offended by kneeling for the anthem just how fragile their patriotism and love for this country is. If they were as America and Freedom loving as they say they are then they shouldn't care if a flag was burned right in front of them. We are supposed to be more than a flag or anthem and most of these fuckers spent the entirety of 2016 talking about how America is bad and needs to become great again.

loving snowflakes.