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The game leaves some things open to discussion, that said it wasn't really Morgana curse that was making them do what they did in chapter 1 to 3. It's the fact that they never owned up to what they did and never learned or admitted what they should have done better; and so their souls just repeat the same mistakes over and over again because they haven't changed. It's debatable how much the house drove them to their actions, other than laying all the cards on the table ready for them to ruin themselves again, because that's who they are.
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Ohoho the 2nd door's twists got me good. A hell of a door that was, especially compared to the first.
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I finished Door 7. Pretty much right after where I had stopped before the story immediately started picking up in pace which got me back into it...until it slowed down again with the Aimee torture stuff. Frankly that was a little over the top even for Fata Morgana. Like I feel like her character would work like four or five times better if you just cut that all out. It stung so much more to see a person that seemed nice espouse homophobia and so on, instead of whatever that Abu Ghraib poo poo was. After that segment the rest of Door 7 is fine so oh well. Seeing Michel die the third time really shouldn't have worked as well as it does but dammit they pulled it off! Meallan posted:The game leaves some things open to discussion, that said it wasn't really Morgana curse that was making them do what they did in chapter 1 to 3. It's the fact that they never owned up to what they did and never learned or admitted what they should have done better; and so their souls just repeat the same mistakes over and over again because they haven't changed. It's debatable how much the house drove them to their actions, other than laying all the cards on the table ready for them to ruin themselves again, because that's who they are. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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I finished The House in Fata Morgana. I thought the ending was pretty solid. The way they brought back the class themes from the earlier parts of the story and structured Door 8's narrative around it was interesting, as Michel climbed each rung of the social ladder to see how they all contributed to what happened to Morgana was a really smart bit of writing IMO. Morgana herself even got some more needed characterization toward the end. I'm still not entire sure she works (Particularly during Door 6 where a lot of it just reads like a list of bad things that can happen to a person to me instead of a character piece (I'm trying to be spoiler free, but I did read online right that the second game in the series is actually supposed to expand on this portion of the story? It could use it, honestly.)), but it was better. I liked that Michel and Giselle reunited. I think both characters really worked, and I have to say that when taken in tandem Doors 4 + 5 were the highlight of the game for me. Oh yeah I don't know that I mentioned it before the score is pretty consistently excellent throughout the game. Like, Umineko-tier good. Overall despite some narrative choices I wasn't into that I've already I mentioned, I thought this was a pretty good game that I would recommend that people play it if they haven't already. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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I do think it was Morgana's curse making them reincarnate over and over, and that it was broken because Morgana decided to move on and so allowed everyone to leave the house too. But I thought that the reason they kept going through their mistakes was not because they hadn't admired them or felt sorry for them, but because they were the same people over and over, and so they did the exactly same mistakes and horrible decisions. Of course this is really debatable, but I didn't feel they were compelled to act during those initial chapters.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 23:34 |
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I'm glad you liked it! Now at least you probably see why I was at least a little bit coy about what would or would not get developed or showcased; the game surprised me over and over again how much it wanted to go into the details and backgrounds to the point by the end it all kind circled back in on itself. So while there is certainly blame to spread around, and the tragedies of course still happened, everyone was able to literally and figuratively move on, even the supposed "villain" of our story. Making The Maid into the character of Giselle and Morgana's whole arc are for me the crowning achievements of the story.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 23:45 |
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I'm still plugging away at Door 3 but it hasn't managed to grip me like the other doors did, at least not yet
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 00:29 |
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I just finished the first chapter of Danganronpa 3 and it pretty much blew my loving mind out the back of my skull. Like holy poo poo, the first case of DR3 is on par with the 5th case of DR2, which is a height I thought they'd never reach again. And on top of that, it's amazing from a gameplay perspective too. I'm sure everyone will bitch about every one of the minigames, since that's the cool thing to do, but they all feel great to me. -Hangman's Gambit is good because it bears no relation to the DR2 version, it's somewhat like the one from DR1, only not super trivial so it's actually fun. -Even loving Rebuttal Showdown is fun now because you get infinite cuts and have to aim and choose the direction, and can cut multiple lines at once. It's like the mechanic from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, of all things. -Scrum Debates are fun because of how ridiculously over the top they are. -V counters add a bit of challenge to Nonstop Debates and are great because they are completely optional, and being able to lie is a great new mechanic. - I'm also impressed at how close to their chest they played everything with the demo...not only was the case in the demo completely made up(though obviously the DR1/DR2 characters weren't going to show up in the actual game), but there are entire major areas of the school that they edited out of the demo. Hell, even the minigames used in the demo don't show up in the first case, I'm surprised at how completely fresh everything about it felt. Also, buy it because Spike Chunsoft owns. They've been doing a great job of porting all of their best games stranded on portables(999/VLR/DR1/DR2) to PC, and now having a simultaneous Steam release of DR3 alongside the PS4 launch is amazing. Disclaimer: be advised that even the very beginning of DR3 contains massive spoilers for every other part of the DR franchise
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 20:24 |
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I'm still plugging away at Door 3 but it hasn't managed to grip me like the other doors did, at least not yet I personally dug it, and also it introduced Ciao Carina which is one of my favorite tracks in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATMCU3i6-1c Raxivace fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Selane posted:I just finished the first chapter of Danganronpa 3 and it pretty much blew my loving mind out the back of my skull. Like holy poo poo, the first case of DR3 is on par with the 5th case of DR2, which is a height I thought they'd never reach again. And on top of that, it's amazing from a gameplay perspective too. I'm definitely going to agree. That case is prolly gonna go in my Top Visual Novel moments
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 22:58 |
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I'm definitely going to agree. That case is prolly gonna go in my Top Visual Novel moments God drat it where is my Vita
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 23:16 |
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Aaaaaaaa I'm in Europe and I'm just counting the hours until I can get DR3 and you guys are making me even more excited. Is it that good so far? Are you talking about story? The mechanics of trials? Are the cases really good murder mysteries?
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 00:09 |
Meallan posted:Aaaaaaaa I'm in Europe and I'm just counting the hours until I can get DR3 and you guys are making me even more excited. Is it that good so far? Are you talking about story? The mechanics of trials? Are the cases really good murder mysteries? I've only finished the prologue, but I'm digging the character interactions so far. Some of the characters bounce off each other really well in ways that you don't get to see in the demo.
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 04:45 |
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food court bailiff posted:God drat it where is my Vita My wife actually surprised me with a used Vita yesterday! DR3 here I come! Is there any way to legally stream the anime(?) that comes before the game? Is there anything I should know plot wise from the action game spinoff?
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# ? Oct 1, 2017 21:09 |
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don't worry about either, they're both bad and don't have anything to do with v3
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# ? Oct 1, 2017 21:19 |
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lets hang out posted:don't worry about either, they're both bad and don't have anything to do with v3 That's a shame. The subtitle of the anime had piqued my interest but honestly Despair Girls looked really awful every time I got the slightest hint of interest. in other news gently caress my life i just found my original Vita. good: got all my saves n poo poo back. bad: oooooh man the wife is not happy.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 19:57 |
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I could use some convincing on DR3. I got into DR1 way late, some time after the LP was finished, which was a period of time close enough to when I had played Umineko and the various Ace Attorney titles that I could just not get over a perceived lack of quality in the mysteries/murders compared to those. They felt extremely shallow and not thought out well, reliant entirely on the pizazz of the trial gameplay segments. The refrain I usually get is that the murders are supposed to be bad and that what you should really care about are the characters, but I suppose none of them really were that interesting for me. This changed slightly in DR2 where one or two caught my interest, but the mysteries and plot were even worse so I hardly call it a net positive. Since I know 3 is a new continuity I feel like this might be a good chance for a fresh start.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 14:10 |
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If you didn't like 1 and 2 you're not going to like 3.
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Nate RFB posted:I could use some convincing on DR3. I got into DR1 way late, some time after the LP was finished, which was a period of time close enough to when I had played Umineko and the various Ace Attorney titles that I could just not get over a perceived lack of quality in the mysteries/murders compared to those. They felt extremely shallow and not thought out well, reliant entirely on the pizazz of the trial gameplay segments. The refrain I usually get is that the murders are supposed to be bad and that what you should really care about are the characters, but I suppose none of them really were that interesting for me. This changed slightly in DR2 where one or two caught my interest, but the mysteries and plot were even worse so I hardly call it a net positive. The mysteries in 3 are much better than 1. I've only done the first 3 cases, but I didn't know the killer at the start for any of them. I also like the characters better in 3.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 15:57 |
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I mean, there's more to a murder mystery than the basic "I dunno whodunit", to me what is more important is whether solving the mystery to get to that endpoint is satisfying. After all it's plenty easy to come up with some inane, illogical twist at the very end to reveal whodunit (and yea even AA is not immune from this), which means you obviously wouldn't be able to guess who it was ahead of time and also not have that much fun getting there because you basically didn't have a chance to do it on your own. Ace Attorney featured more often than not cases where it was obvious who the culprit was going to be, but getting to those moments was fun and interesting as you dissected the intricacies of each set of circumstances and how everything came together. A good example of this IMO is the final case of the second game, Justice For All.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 16:33 |
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The mysteries in 3 are better than the first 2 games, and none of them really have any illogical twists at the end. But yeah, if you didn't like 1 and 2, I don't think you will like 3, regardless of the new continuity stuff.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 16:44 |
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It's October 4th... Let's all take a moment and remember what happened to the Ushiromiya family, 31 years ago today.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 18:41 |
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Sputnik was 1957
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 18:45 |
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Wait, new continuity? Also I didn't really like DR1, got through DR2 just because it's really the only game like it, and got 3 because I ended up liking the nosedive into absurdity that 2 took (since the end of the first game was a total asspull). I've just finished the first case, and it is both completely solvable before the trial if you really puzzle it out, but still really good.
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Raxivace posted:It's October 4th... You know, I never did buy the official account by the authorities. But I have some theories about what really happened, and Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Nate RFB posted:You know, I never did buy the official account by the authorities. But I have some theories about what really happened, and
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 01:29 |
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The steam release of Little Busters has an official release date now, November 1.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 10:19 |
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Uh, I think you'll find it's Little Busters!, the exclamation mark is important.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 21:02 |
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I have a multitude of issues with LB!, but I've kind of looked forward to replaying it when it would get an official release. The reason being that the ME version (presumably what this is) has some extra content, and because back when I played it for the first time my saves got hosed up in between translation patch updates. What this functionally meant is that the usual feature of "skip already read text" didn't really work, which for certain story reasons is a very bad thing to not have in LB!. I've always felt like my initial experience was kind of let down by that not working properly.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 21:30 |
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Are Key games actually good / Where does one start with Key, anyway?
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 21:57 |
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You watch clannad and clannad after story then move on with your life
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 22:06 |
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Are Key games actually good / Where does one start with Key, anyway? I think everything else has its ups and downs but in the end nothing ever was that memorable besides CLANNAD. I was/am looking forward to the Angel Beats VN assuming that ever gets finished and translated on the basis that the anime for that is extremely interesting but hilariously rushed.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 22:55 |
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I beat Dangan Ronpa V3 and it was good. People who melted down over the ending are big dummies.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 23:56 |
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Week 2 and my DR3 pre order still hasn't shipped Been playing Umineko, so I have resisted the urge to spend an extra €60 to get it digitally.
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# ? Oct 9, 2017 07:51 |
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doki doki literature club
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# ? Oct 9, 2017 11:22 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:doki doki literature club Seriously. Don't look up any spoilers, just snag it on Steam (for free!) and give it a try. What a ride.
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# ? Oct 9, 2017 16:23 |
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Wait...what? Really?
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# ? Oct 9, 2017 23:51 |
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Artificer posted:Wait...what? Really? the store page has a content warning for a reason
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# ? Oct 9, 2017 23:56 |
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Honestly it just looks like generic creepypasta with third rate art and third rate writing. I can't argue with the price, but does it actually have anything that makes it worth playing?
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# ? Oct 10, 2017 01:45 |
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it isn't fantastic, but the writing's legit solid esp. if you care at all about poetry or writing it's a pretty good experience that is free and also only a few hours long; which is almost certainly why it's blowing up
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