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Zaphod42 posted:Nah, it has 4 big puzzles with a boss after, not quite the same thing. I don't know why doing a dungeon in half the time is bad. They even build on lessons, it just doesn't take 20 rooms of doing something you already know how to do. BotW is pretty obviously derived from the lessons learned in Between Worlds. The items in that game are downplayed for a greater focus on maneuvering and environmental effects. Sometimes you need something specific like with the sand rod but for the most part Dungeon A is differentiated from Dungeon B because it's a platformer or it's always dark or you're escorting someone who can get lost. And also it's a throwback to the first game where navigation is the challenge, not a series of linear actions. And Breath is all about that, the environment being the puzzle. I've had as much fun finding a dragon, solving a shrine quest, and just navigating the world as I had doing any single dungeon in another game.
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It's not like the dungeons are the selling point of Majora's Mask, it's the overworld that makes the game great. Only two of them are good anyways
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Zaphod42 posted:Nah, it has 4 big puzzles with a boss after, not quite the same thing. Would you have liked it more if like, all the cryo shrines were in one place and connected?
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Oct 10, 2017 01:52
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I liked The Witcher 3 but I can’t replay it because it’s too long so I don’t think it’s that great overall. On the other hand, Fallout New Vegas is a great length and has lots of gameplay and plot choice it so it’s one of my favourites. Majora’s Mask has much better pacing than Breath of the Wild.
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Oct 10, 2017 01:55
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Liking BotW a lot is fine and understandable but downplaying how big a part large elaborate dungeons have played in the series and acting like they weren't even that good seems weird
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Oct 10, 2017 01:56
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I think I'm going to buy Shadow of War.
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Oct 10, 2017 01:58
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Nothing Was Ever Good.
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exquisite tea posted:Nothing Was Ever Good. Actually, Link to the Past was good
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exquisite tea posted:Nothing Was Ever Good. magical pop'n was pretty good
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I've been told a game called Knack 2 was good.
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pop'n twinbee is pretty good and pop'n music is okay
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never forget that the first thing the creator of wild arms made was a video game about a hyper little girl beating up a demon king who keeps bullying her dad
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glam rock hamhock posted:Liking BotW a lot is fine and understandable but downplaying how big a part large elaborate dungeons have played in the series and acting like they weren't even that good seems weird Dungeons are great, it's just there's nothing wrong with a Zelda game taking the focus away from them
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Oct 10, 2017 02:05
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The length of the Breath of the Wild dungeons is fine, the bigger problem is the fact they look similar and have similar looking bosses. The dungeons being designed around a central puzzle is cool and very Zelda.
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homeless snail posted:pop'n twinbee is pretty good and pop'n music is okay the twinbee shmups are cool but while rainbow bell adventure is a cool idea, i feel the level design is very annoying in execution and the eu release is hosed up
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Oct 10, 2017 02:06
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In my tour of weird ps2 horror games im gonna see if i can get Michigan Report from Hell working on a ocmputer bc I don't want to mod my ps2 and spend a lot of money on probably a pretty bad game.
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In Training posted:In my tour of weird ps2 horror games im gonna see if i can get Michigan Report from Hell working on a ocmputer bc I don't want to mod my ps2 and spend a lot of money on probably a pretty bad game. I'm almost through the list of ones I already wanted to play, and could use some recommendations.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Liking BotW a lot is fine and understandable but downplaying how big a part large elaborate dungeons have played in the series and acting like they weren't even that good seems weird The large elaborate dungeons are exactly why I fell off the series. A Link Between Worlds was a shot in the arm that got me to pick it back up and part of that was they condensed everything. The dungeons were long enough for you to get the trick then a boss that isn't burdened with having to be defeated by the very item you picked up. And instead of micro-dungeons inbetween larger dungeons like the godawful trading dungeon or egg hunts in Majora the overworld is an extension of the dungeons like a neat stealth sequence or a short and sweet escort mission where you're guiding a hopping bomb.
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I've always wanted to try Michigan, but I never bothered to put in the effort
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Doing well the witcher 3 dildo quest.
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Raxivace posted:Any of those ps2 horror games particularly stand out? Siren seems really rad, is all I've kinda played recently that you probably haven't already played or heard about. Like, I can recommend the Silent Hill series but if you googled "good horror games" you'd probably hear that same thign.
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ALso holy crap HG101 doesn't look like a geocities page anymore and Im kinda bummed about it http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/
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the new layout is ugly and it fucks up google links to old articles. bah!
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TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:I liked The Witcher 3 but I can’t replay it because it’s too long so I don’t think it’s that great overall. Yes I have a lot of time on my hands, why do you ask
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Zaphod42 posted:The problem is the game is basically half-done. There's no dungeons. There's no getting key items to complete dungeons. That's... not a Zelda game. The framework in BOTW is so great it would make for the best Zelda game of all time hands down... but they just didn't finish it. Its a big cool game as-is, but its really not a Zelda game as we know it. That's not inherently bad, but... eh. Its missing things. I disagree with this. BotW is lacking when it comes to dungeons (and not just dungeons, but well-crafted, aesthetically unique puzzle areas in general) but I don't think that makes it any less of a Zelda game. I think they had an idea of the aspects of Zelda that they wanted to hit on, specifically the sense of mystery and discovery that are prominent in entries like Link to the Past and Wind Waker (Great Sea) and pushed in that direction instead. For me the fascination and driving force that I used to get from trying to work my way through dungeons instead came in exploring the world. Digging into the nooks and crannies and seeing what they hid. There's so much to see in Breath of the Wild, but the accomplishment is going to come more from discovering a little shrine deep in the jungle, or plunging into a massive crevasse in the ground to see what's at the bottom. In the end you know it will be 1: an orb or 2: a piece of gear but the journey to getting there and a greater understanding of the world you're in makes it feel more meaningful. That said, once you've seen all there is to see, I don't know that you can really have that same experience again.
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PantsBandit posted:I disagree with this. BotW is lacking when it comes to dungeons (and not just dungeons, but well-crafted, aesthetically unique puzzle areas in general) but I don't think that makes it any less of a Zelda game. I think they had an idea of the aspects of Zelda that they wanted to hit on, specifically the sense of mystery and discovery that are prominent in entries like Link to the Past and Wind Waker (Great Sea) and pushed in that direction instead. For me the fascination and driving force that I used to get from trying to work my way through dungeons instead came in exploring the world. Digging into the nooks and crannies and seeing what they hid. There's so much to see in Breath of the Wild, but the accomplishment is going to come more from discovering a little shrine deep in the jungle, or plunging into a massive crevasse in the ground to see what's at the bottom. In the end you know it will be 1: an orb or 2: a piece of gear but the journey to getting there and a greater understanding of the world you're in makes it feel more meaningful. Its just for me the quintessential "Zelda" thing is getting key items that you then use in a dungeon that focuses on that key item. Some are more focused on this than others, (Link between worlds was AMAZING for this) but they all have it to some degree, almost making them into like metroidvanias, but they're different. You could have a new Metroid game that isn't a metroidvania and it could still be all about Samus and could be fun, but if its not a metroidvania then its not a "metroid" as most people understand it. I already said its not necessarily a bad thing, sometimes change is good. But I can't help but want more of the traditional key items -> dungeons thing in BOTW. That's what I'm saying, you only get orbs and side-grade gear. What if you could actually get key items, and then new temples would be available because you found a key item! It would be so much more meaningful, although obviously asking for a lot of additional content; that's not free stuff. It takes time and I get that. Hopefully that's what they're building right now, using the same engine. I wouldn't even mind them using the same world! Ideally for me we'd just get a "temples expansion pack" and then BOTW would be GOAT. The Zelda that the "Zelda-type" thing I was describing least applies to is probably original NES Zelda since it had fewer key items with fewer uses (but still key!) and indeed BOTW feels most like the original Zelda in many ways. Simpler but also grander, bigger, and a better adventure. More free-form. But... missing content.
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I couldn't get into Metroid fusion because it was more linear and story-heavy. I'm sure it's a good game but Not What I Want From A Metroid Game
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psychoJ posted:What are you talking about, I'm replaying The Witcher 3 right now. For the third time. I'm replaying it for the second time and that's a really good looking game!
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my preperations are complete... tomorrow morning I am gonna buy a freaking house in ff14
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Shadow of War is out now for everyone! Go play it I guess. I preordered the gold edition like a bad person.
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I'm enjoying Tales of Berseria so far but man the enemy placement is bizarrely bad. It's a minor complaint overall but having like 3-5 enemies in like every open area, each if which is it's own fight (unless you can get them to combine) is just a bit much and just leads to me getting sick of battles less than halfway through a dungeon and just swerving around them while I'm trying to explore. It just feels so haphazard. Like, don't put more enemies in a room than are fun to actually fight.
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Taintrunner posted:Shadow of War is out now for everyone! Go play it I guess. I preordered the gold edition like a bad person. Well, it's not for me but I hope it was worth it for you 
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Taintrunner posted:Shadow of War is out now for everyone! Go play it I guess. I preordered the gold edition like a bad person. Its 100GB  I'm gonna sit this one out because I'm bummed you can't build an army of elves or humans or something. Its just more orcs.
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Taintrunner posted:Shadow of War is out now for everyone! Go play it I guess. I preordered the gold edition like a bad person. No thanks but have fun I don't even give a poo poo about the loot chests or whatever, I just didn't really care for the original
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Zaphod42 posted:Its 100GB Orcs are like infinitely cooler than elves or humans 
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glam rock hamhock posted:Orcs are like infinitely cooler than elves or humans Por que no los dos?
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I don't know if Automata is GOTY but Ending E has the Credits of the Year. I thought dying again and again at the Square-Enix bit was going to be something to make me lose hope and give up and then my buddies come to my rescue  And the chorus begins singing too! What a great sequence.And of course I'm going to help them back, who cares about some save data? Weirdly enough, not even 10 minutes after finishing it I saw my neighboor having trouble moving an ancient huge rear end TV and thought "Oh right!" and went there to help him. Didn't get my memories deleted because of that tho. Samuringa fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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When Koei Tecmo and Warner Brothers Interactive team up one day to do a Lord of the Rings Warriors game the roster will still be hosed because for some reason WB won't allow them to put in Tom Bombadil as a playable character.
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Isn't voice acting actually one of the biggest money sinks in triple AAA games? I seem to recall reading that once. Having professional voice actors read even a few lines costs a hefty sum.
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