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Viewtiful Jew posted:When Koei Tecmo and Warner Brothers Interactive team up one day to do a Lord of the Rings Warriors game the roster will still be hosed because for some reason WB won't allow them to put in Tom Bombadil as a playable character. We already had an LotR Battlefront game and a third person Diablo style game, I really don't want to see any more Middle Earth unless it's an Infinity Engine style RPG or something.
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Internet Kraken posted:Isn't voice acting actually one of the biggest monkey sinks in triple AAA games? I seem to recall reading that once. Having professional voice actors read even a few lines costs a hefty sum. One of the last Iwata Asks ever was about Xenoblade Chronicles X and how Iwata gave his best General Pepper impression when he saw the invoice for how much the voice acting (at least the Japanese voice acting) cost them.
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Internet Kraken posted:Isn't voice acting actually one of the biggest monkey sinks in triple AAA games? I seem to recall reading that once. Having professional voice actors read even a few lines costs a hefty sum. Hey gamedevs, I'm perfectly okay with Phoenix wright bloops. Especially if it means more games.
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My favorite alternative voice acting is Don't Starve where each character is "voiced" by different instruments played in short bursts.
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Internet Kraken posted:Isn't voice acting actually one of the biggest money sinks in triple AAA games? I seem to recall reading that once. Having professional voice actors read even a few lines costs a hefty sum. Yeah, this is what I was thinking about when I made that earlier comment about voice acting and animation. Like, most of the scenes people made fun of in Mass Effect Andromeda were where you can tell they were stretched thin trying to make things cinematic. Once you have voice acting, you probably also have to worry about lipsync animation, and there's all sorts of cascading expenses that follow from it. NieR: Automata had like a fraction of BioWare's budget and yet there are things in that game that resonated with me even though in terms of narrative depiction it was literally just static models and unvoiced scrolling text with music
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there's a new star wars trailer and it implies a lot of spoilers but it rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY
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oddium posted:there's a new star wars trailer and it implies a lot of spoilers but it rules   Anyway, I like the ice foxes but I'm not big on the little penguin critter. Maybe it'll grow on me.
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Sure, watching a human actor play Rey is cool, but I can become her and kill a few clone troopers before being blown up instantly by artillery in Star Wars Battlefront II (the new one)
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and on that note, what IS the deal with all of these star wars??????
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I don’t know but they sure sound tiring
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Holy poo poo I'm in the last area of Silent Hill 3 and just learned you can block. gently caress. e: Ah, great. I died to an instant death trap. Right when I was going to say the haunted mansion was a cool scripted area. al-azad fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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oddium posted:there's a new star wars trailer and it implies a lot of spoilers but it rules God drat they really telegraph the hell out of that spoiler I mean I can only hope they subvert it but drat probably not
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al-azad posted:Holy poo poo I'm in the last area of Silent Hill 3 and just learned you can block. gently caress.  Borley's has a new death trap at the higher difficulties. It is so great.
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You can add Michigan: Report From Hell as another great PS2 horror game even if it's more of a campy entry than actually scary at all
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Feel like I should play Luigi's Mansion this October as that seems like a p spook game while also being chill and easy
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luigi's mansion is one of the best gamecube games ever made hell, so is wario world
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I never played Dark Moon, did that turn out alright?
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In Training posted:You can add Michigan: Report From Hell as another great PS2 horror game even if it's more of a campy entry than actually scary at all
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The Colonel posted:luigi's mansion is one of the best gamecube games ever made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfRO1yxaXs I need to make this my ring tone.
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Olive! posted:I never played Dark Moon, did that turn out alright? it seemed ok but all i've heard says it's competent but kind of lost everything that made the original interesting, boos are just regular enemies and you go to a bunch of different mansions instead of crawling around a single recognizable one
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The Colonel posted:it seemed ok but all i've heard says it's competent but kind of lost everything that made the original interesting, boos are just regular enemies and you go to a bunch of different mansions instead of crawling around a single recognizable one And this is why I think it's a stronger game. It's more puzzle focused with a larger variety of gameplay. And while I'm sure nobody plays it online anymore it had a decent co-op mode, very reminiscent of Nox if I can drag that title back from the dead. Like imagine Gauntlet with Nintendo characters. Luigi's Mansion was clearly a test bed for ideas and it's shorter and more focused but completely shallow. Dark Moon is more focused and puzzle-y but at the expense of some of the freedom the original gives you. I'd still recommend both but the sequel edges out a little more for me.
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Raxivace posted:Any of those ps2 horror games particularly stand out? fatal frame 2 is real good
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I didn't mind the multiple mansions thing but also I got real bored of it because every mansion is built around a specific gimmick rather than just being a cool big space to explore, kinda almost like less interesting zelda dungeons. also every mansion is broken up into like a half dozen missions and its always the same thing, like one mission for each part of the mansion and then a final mission that's the whole thing and its very formulaic the multiplayer mode is real cool though
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 Thanks, healbot. No Frame Restorers challenge completed. Of course the final boss was at full power. Boy was that a fun opening salvo of several attacks at once. Emeralda was dominating everything up to this boss, but she couldn't break 2000 with her attacks. Her going Infinity at 5% was a great help, since the angel hands (not pictured), started attacking 4-6 times for a couple thousand each.  Anime Protagonism.  That felt so good after seeing her keep Ramsus alive to Mirror Stance forever. I can't wait to try the new things I can do without the rodent and having no limitations, in several years. Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Hey gamedevs, I'm perfectly okay with Phoenix wright bloops. Especially if it means more games. I actually prefer bloops over voice acting most of the time. A lot of game dialogue comes down to reading text while the characters do a canned animation; adding voice acting to that just feels so sluggish since you can read the text in less than half the time it takes for them to read out. Voice acting during gameplay and important emotive moments, text everywhere else imo.
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good voice acting can do a lot for characterization in some games
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Pigbuster posted:I actually prefer bloops over voice acting most of the time. A lot of game dialogue comes down to reading text while the characters do a canned animation; adding voice acting to that just feels so sluggish since you can read the text in less than half the time it takes for them to read out. Voice acting during gameplay and important emotive moments, text everywhere else imo. I'm split because if I'm playing single player than text is fine and lets you move faster, but if you're playing with multiple people timing the text presses so everybody can read but its not too slow is hard, and having an auto-play voice is perfect for that.
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The Colonel posted:good voice acting can do a lot for characterization in some games For example Nep.
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A Hat in Time has an equippable badge that turns all the voice acting into the mumbles of yore.
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I am OK with the JRPG model of having the most important scenes being fully voice-acted and then having the rest of it be unvoiced. Just sprinkle enough around that I get a feel for what the character sounds like and what personality their voice conveys. That way you can have substories or side-quests that can actually have some meaty narrative content without having to book another hour of recording time and rigging a bunch of facial animations every time
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CJacobs posted:A Hat in Time has an equippable badge that turns all the voice acting into the mumbles of yore. it's hosed up cause some of the voice acting is actually much more hilarious than just doing banjo-kazooie mumbles i was actually really surprised with how good the voice acting in a hat in time is on average, the only sort of iffy one is scottish owl guy if you can't get behind him constantly talking in the same thick accent drawing out every line The Colonel fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Also I'm annoyed with my ISP because I got a new modem and it was working perfectly fine with much better upload than I usually get... but today it had to be registered on their website and now it is back to what the other one had. These people know that I pay for good internet, right? And that I just had twice the speed they say I should be getting, much closer to what I actually pay for? They know they're not fooling me, right? idk maybe if I threaten to go somewhere else they'll do something that makes sense for once.
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I like when games will just have like one word voice acted when a text box pops up, like the dude is thinking about something and you just hear the voice actor go "Hmmm...", as long as they don't use it too much. octopath does it for every single dialogue box and that is Too Much
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CJacobs posted:Also I'm annoyed with my ISP because I got a new modem and it was working perfectly fine with much better upload than I usually get... but today it had to be registered on their website and now it is back to what the other one had. These people know that I pay for good internet, right? And that I just had twice the speed they say I should be getting, much closer to what I actually pay for? They know they're not fooling me, right? idk maybe if I threaten to go somewhere else they'll do something that makes sense for once. I am not sure you have grasped how the ISPs work, in wondrous capitalism.
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Zaphod42 posted:I'm split because if I'm playing single player than text is fine and lets you move faster, but if you're playing with multiple people timing the text presses so everybody can read but its not too slow is hard, and having an auto-play voice is perfect for that. Read the dialogue out loud. Bonus if you do an impression of the character homeless snail posted:I like when games will just have like one word voice acted when a text box pops up, like the dude is thinking about something and you just hear the voice actor go "Hmmm...", as long as they don't use it too much. octopath does it for every single dialogue box and that is Too Much Ooh, we can do this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37UzjyZ0_4I
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Games being cheaper to make isn't going to even stop game companies trying to bleed you dry, so you might as well enjoy pretty graphics and good voice acting rather than hoping sending games back to the N64 era will fix the industry
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chumbler posted:I am not sure you have grasped how the ISPs work, in wondrous capitalism. No I get that they're scummy fuckheads, what I'm saying is that even with them being scummy fuckheads, I should be getting better upload speeds than I am as I very clearly found out yesterday. Even after the part where they don't give me what I pay for because they're scummy fuckheads, it is then further reduced beyond scummy fuckhead-levels. What I got yesterday is what it normally should be even with them being scummy fuckheads.
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