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OwlFancier posted:To be honest I wholly reject the concept of tolerance as a virtue. On a vaguely similar note I have been saying for years: It's not OK to be gay because you were born gay; it's OK to be gay because it doesn't negatively impact anyone. It's such a basic human rights issue. Framing it that way was necessary because religion is still strangling the poo poo out of us. So we made progress on one issue but we (America) learned nothing and don't understand basics, thus which plant you inhale the crude combustibles of still determines if you can be evicted at any time or not. And we have to make personal attacks any time we can suss out who the atheist is when Religion Hurts People Again, Surprise- because atheism = communism = the Soviet Union = YOU ARE LITERALLY STALIN. tips fedora Those things are "choices," and they're the wrong ones because they aren't mine. I see very little real progress. Interesting point about the dangers of arbitrary virtues, I had not considered that angle.
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FantasticExtrusion posted:it's OK to be gay because it doesn't negatively impact anyone. Uh... As member of Tribal Group Twelve, the raising of children in our culture is very important to us. It's literally life or death for our religious/cultural identity. Having fewer babies *is material harm* to TGT. So you see, there is a negative impact to us when other people go around acting as if it's okay to do things sexually (or otherwise) that don't pertain to their task of pumping out and indoctrinating happy new Twelvers.
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The poo poo Mouthy Buddha is doing is loving disgusting. Uncritically present refined & rehearsed Nazi propaganda as one side to a "problem"/"question" invented entirely by that group and set the other side up with strawman arguments the other side is equipped with "reasonable" counters to. Claim you're just presenting "Both Sides." All your fellow neo-Nazis can come in and applaud you for representing Both Sides because that is the most important thing in discourse, to give equal validity to every viewpoint, even centuries old conspiracies used to justify the displacement and murder of tens of millions of people. He spends well over a minute in a video just listing the names and companies of Jewish CEOs.
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OwlFancier posted:I did go to school with people who, back when the god delusion came out, were super thrilled by it. Whereas I didn't see the point because I was already atheist so why would I want to read it? I mean yeah just lol if u weren't an athiest by age 7 sitting in a church service with the cub scouts thinking how the whole idea of god is just stupid
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Less talk more guys who vlog from their cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF26dllnVhI
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OwlFancier posted:I did go to school with people who, back when the god delusion came out, were super thrilled by it. Whereas I didn't see the point because I was already atheist so why would I want to read it?
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JFairfax posted:I mean yeah just lol if u weren't an athiest by age 7 sitting in a church service with the cub scouts thinking how the whole idea of god is just stupid I think my soul was truly damned when I drew a thanksgiving hand turkey on the inside cover of a hymnal. Why else would they leave pencils back there? There was nothing else to write on...
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Less talk more guys who vlog from their cars. it's fun to imagine that guy driving somewhere and having to pull over because the urge to say something racist is too strong
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:goodbye youtube im moving to vidme this appears to have lasted roughly two weeks
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:The poo poo Mouthy Buddha is doing is loving disgusting. Uncritically present refined & rehearsed Nazi propaganda as one side to a "problem"/"question" invented entirely by that group and set the other side up with strawman arguments the other side is equipped with "reasonable" counters to. Claim you're just presenting "Both Sides." All your fellow neo-Nazis can come in and applaud you for representing Both Sides because that is the most important thing in discourse, to give equal validity to every viewpoint, even centuries old conspiracies used to justify the displacement and murder of tens of millions of people. It's easy to report him! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEYr_hMunVaqHNXCpv9oQIpY4_ghKLeAxytXI8H0PqXPr6Zg/viewform Make sure you use a timestamped youtube link in the evidence field, like 10:22 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74OokZdK7Hk Shouldn't take very many reports to get this done y'all, it's obvious, unmitigated nazi propaganda.
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Lampsacus posted:Egh, I think it's just where you're at. For some people, there is a point in there lives where the realization that religion is bunk is a really mind blowing concept. Unfortunately, a subset get stuck fiending the superiority they feel with this realization (/r/atheists, etc). But yeah, from my personal experience I understand being on the inside of that mind shift. The trick is to then move on and get over yourself. Or start a skeptic youtube channel as a talking skull. It seems like a generally applicable thing to a degree, like I mean even with this thread it's more a vile fascination with the subjects than anything, but the only videos I watch on the subject are Hbomb's because he's frankly funny and it saves me having to watch the originals myself. But yeah the "rationals" seem to output this huge quantity of really low grade content that gets devoured by their fanbase which seems to primarily consist of the same poo poo repeated ad nauseum about how smart and pragmatic they are. That's what makes me think there A Thing in some people's heads that's wired differently so they can enjoy that. I can't think of any subject where I could just sit and be self congratulatory for that long.
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Gotta say I was disappointed by TAE's Matt Dillahunty's view on thealt-right shitlords. I like him fine, but he seems to have taken to that academic, bloodless view of valuing terminology over meaning. "This guy hates and wishes death upon gays, communists and jews, but NOT gypsies. Therefore, I cannot in good conscience call him a nazi, and if you do, you are a moron and a liar, good sir!" The fact that several of his fellows guests might have been moderating their discourse in a mixed event, compared to spewing straight bile when in their own echo chambers, also seems o have sailed right over his head. He could at least have given credit to, you know, people who actually -have- watched their material, which he admits he did not.
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SpaceViking posted:It's a common enough origin story. I probably would have ended up the same way if I wasn't bigger on PZ Meyers than I was on Thunderf00t during the Elevatorgate debacle. Not that I don't also look back at my previous fondness of PZ and wonder why, but at least I ended up here. Oh man, I haven't thought about PZ Meyers in years. Now that I think about it, though, Elevatorgate was around the time I realized that the "atheist community" on the internet wasn't what I thought it was, and tending to read PZ Meyers (while also being in grad school with a non-lovely group of friends) made it pretty easy to figure out where I stood on that one. I do look back on the things I used to write during my "New Atheism is cool and I will now tell you all how stupid religion is" phase and cringe, though, even if I dodged being one of the extremely lovely ones.
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I'm probably really late to the party on this, but I found a video series that does a pretty good job of pinning down what makes a lot of the hate nerds tick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8XgGhXkTQ
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a STEMlord who made his pug look like hitler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UC7SeFWZYFmsm1tqWxfuOTPQ
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Funny tweet I needed to share. For context, Contra did another live stream rewatching and doing commentary on her older videos. This is from the Alpha Males video. https://twitter.com/mewuron/status/917733149081325568
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Specifically volume 1 manga Jojos.
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Lampsacus posted:Egh, I think it's just where you're at. For some people, there is a point in there lives where the realization that religion is bunk is a really mind blowing concept. Unfortunately, a subset get stuck fiending the superiority they feel with this realization (/r/atheists, etc). But yeah, from my personal experience I understand being on the inside of that mind shift. The trick is to then move on and get over yourself. Or start a skeptic youtube channel as a talking skull. I think many/most people in general enjoy the feeling of being right about things, and arguments about religion are an area where 1. it's easy to find opponents and 2. the arguments are pretty straight-forward (at least if you're arguing against someone trying to prove god exists or denying evolution or something). This doesn't just apply to atheists; you see it a lot in political discussions as well, where many liberals/Democrats enjoy debating conservatives because they usually make easy opponents. All this being said, I do think it reflects kind of poorly on a person if they continue to enjoy doing this for more than a couple years or into adulthood. I think most people in their teenage/college years can find this kind of thing appealing, but it gets kinda boring after a while.
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Ytlaya posted:I think many/most people in general enjoy the feeling of being right about things, and arguments about religion are an area where 1. it's easy to find opponents and 2. the arguments are pretty straight-forward (at least if you're arguing against someone trying to prove god exists or denying evolution or something). This doesn't just apply to atheists; you see it a lot in political discussions as well, where many liberals/Democrats enjoy debating conservatives because they usually make easy opponents. For the reactos in this thread it's definitely become an indispensable source of income. There's probably a steady stream of teens that come to and age out of their channels while they remain eternal teens, never growing and never learning because they don't know what else they can do. It's a very stark contrast when you put it up against how much someone like Contrapoints has changed since starting out as Contrapoints, growing and experimenting and becoming something new. I don't even recognize Lindsay Ellis when I compare her with her Nostalgia Chick self. The reactos are in hell, doomed to repeat the same steps forever.
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I can't help but feel that it would be a bit rich for us to sit in a thread dedicated to mocking people with lovely regressive arguments and then turn around and suggest that people who enjoy reading a book dedicated to dispelling lovely regressive arguments are somehow psychologically different. I think it's a shame though, that teenagers who have a materialist awakening end up on the channels of these twits, that transition them from rejecting one set of lovely regressive arguments straight into a different set of lovely regressive arguments. Imagine instead of Sargon and Thunderf00t being the poster manchildren of the internet rationalists, it was someone who followed up the anti-creationist stuff with "so next let's learn about the man who coined the phrase 'Religion is the opium of the people', Karl Marx".
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I again feel like there's a bit of a difference between laughing at nazis on the internet and laughing at religious people. Namely that you already know what religious people are like if you are in the market for the book laughing at them. Whereas I admit this lot keep plumbing new depths of stupid and insane and that's most of why I read the thread.
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Dog I didn't have "an awakening" - I was in Sunday school sitting on a carpet square, the entire time bored out of my mind. Someone said a man literally lived inside a living whale (for like quite some time), and I knew that wouldn't work because I had been swimming before. The thousands of hours of boredom which followed only further strengthened my opinions. No I am not going to find faith - unless you physically damage my brain. Which is pretty telling...
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Less talk more guys who vlog from their cars. Oh good. For a second, I thought this was gonna be a vid from the Cinemasnob.
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TAA is a coward willing to change his opinions to satisfy his audience's likes and dislikes. I remember in a 2013, TAA rightfully called out Cult of Dusty for his sexist bullshit (it was in a 3 hour long QA video he did on "TJ Does Life" channel, so I'm not finding it myself). But a year and a half later when he gets the chance to have Dusty come on his Drunken Peasants show, suddenly they're good friends. Similarly, he called out Atheism is Unstoppable for being racist. But after the outcry from his growing racist audience, TJ backtracked and even apologized to AIU. What caused me to drop TJ altogether was his cowardice when criticized by a tiny blogger. Eventually, the blogger agreed to come to TJ in person to argue his point. TJ quickly backed out. I wouldn't have even known about the blogger's criticism if TJ hadn't made a whiny video about it on his main loving channel. But I'm glad he did, because it help me see what a stupid, yellow-bellied little gently caress-wit he really is.
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So mouthybuddha and edgysphinx were kicked off YT before right? I guess the "community" wasn't ready for their naked Nazi agenda. But they are now. There are people like BuntyKing and Jeff Holdiay defending a literal Nazi propaganda video by MB. Frog in the pot etc...
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Grouchio posted:So the Honest Trailers guy got fired from his job for sex abuse allegations Look when you decide to make your livelyhood with internet videos only, the chances are good you're broken in some way or are on the verge of breaking.
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Archer666 posted:Look when you decide to make your livelyhood with internet videos only, the chances are good you're broken in some way or are on the verge of breaking. gently caress you, HBomb is a goddamn saint
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Glazier posted:gently caress you, HBomb is a goddamn saint That's as maybe but he also thinks the Star Wars prequels are good films.
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Archer666 posted:Look when you decide to make your livelyhood with internet videos only, the chances are good you're broken in some way or are on the verge of breaking. People with production skills or who know about budgets seem exempt from this.
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