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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyonero posted:

What kind of bid do you try for with ps11 Vader? I guess it's mostly just Han, Quickdraw and other Vader's at 11

2 points max. You don't see PS11 Quickdraw all *that* often, and Han is pretty drat rare in any configuration. I've seen VI Dengar more than either. And even that's not common.

If I ended up with 3 points left I'd probably go for cruise missiles or prockets over a bid.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
So, I know this is stupid, but on an intensity Guri, Autothrusters or Pulsed Ray Shield?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

bunnyofdoom posted:

So, I know this is stupid, but on an intensity Guri, Autothrusters or Pulsed Ray Shield?

Yes it absolutely is. Autothrusters.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

thespaceinvader posted:

Yes it absolutely is. Autothrusters.

Crew on Boba? Gonk or Tail gunner?


(Fwiw this is for an end of league tournament with certain ships banned and others required. One of them being s starviper if you be flying scum)

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

bunnyofdoom posted:

Crew on Boba? Gonk or Tail gunner?


(Fwiw this is for an end of league tournament with certain ships banned and others required. One of them being s starviper if you be flying scum)

WHat's the whole of the strictures in place?

Best crew for Boba for me is probably K4 plus missiles of some sort (Cluster is a favourite obviously) plus Scavenger Crane, otherwise maybe Cad and Bomblet.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

thespaceinvader posted:

WHat's the whole of the strictures in place?

Best crew for Boba for me is probably K4 plus missiles of some sort (Cluster is a favourite obviously) plus Scavenger Crane, otherwise maybe Cad and Bomblet.

100 points. Must include one of the following
Scum: hwk290 or starviper
Emp: decimator, lambda, tie advanced
Rebel: attack shuttle, Ewing.

Cannot include:
Scum: protectorate, jump master, z95
Emp: tie fighter tie defender tie inceptor
Rebwl: t65 t70 and the kwing.


Basically ships used most often in the league banned, less used required.


I am expecting some nym corrans tbh

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

bunnyofdoom posted:

100 points. Must include one of the following
Scum: hwk290 or starviper
Emp: decimator, lambda, tie advanced
Rebel: attack shuttle, Ewing.

Cannot include:
Scum: protectorate, jump master, z95
Emp: tie fighter tie defender tie inceptor
Rebwl: t65 t70 and the kwing.


Basically ships used most often in the league banned, less used required.


I am expecting some nym corrans tbh

RAClo+Quickdraw will probably be pretty great in that format, and meets the criteria. If you're expecting to see a lot of Nym and a lot of Corran, you can kill Corran in two turns with I'll Show You The Darkside condition sneaking in crits under the shields. Nym is much less scary with a damaged cockpit crit (and Scum Nym can't do Genius shenanigans if you stick him with a Stunned Pilot)

Comedy option:
Ezra with TLT, Rage, Inspiring Recruit + 3 gold squadron pilots with TLT :v:
Comedy option #2:
The obnoxious Ahsoka/Hera Ghost mobility build

canyoneer fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Oct 10, 2017

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
I'd totally play my awful Doom Shuttle Tie/Ad list:

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Tractor Beam (1)
Darth Vader (3)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY&hd=1

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats


Pwatched it about ten times already. Looks like poo poo is gonna get dark as gently caress

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



Fantasy Flight is listing K-Wings as "on the boat" so I may actually be able to get my hands on one.

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
Triple Auzitucks is pretty fun in a trolly sort of way. Lots of ways to play around with this. Swap Expertise for a cheaper EPT (Crackshot) and put some combo of Gunner (2) and Operations Specialist (1) on as crew. I want to find a way to fit the PS 7 Wookie.

Wookiee Liberator (26)
Expertise (4)
Breach Specialist (1)
Tactician (2)

Wookiee Liberator (26)
Expertise (4)
Breach Specialist (1)
Tactician (2)

Wookiee Liberator (26)
Expertise (4)
Breach Specialist (1)
Tactician (2)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

Some Numbers posted:

I'd totally play my awful Doom Shuttle Tie/Ad list:

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (21)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Accuracy Corrector (0)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Tractor Beam (1)
Darth Vader (3)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Why accuracy corrector? I'd rather swap out AC for ATC and remove Vader from the shuttle. Or swap Vader out for a Fleet Officer.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





IronSaber posted:

Why accuracy corrector? I'd rather swap out AC for ATC and remove Vader from the shuttle. Or swap Vader out for a Fleet Officer.

Accuracy Corrector works on both shots from the cluster missiles. It's a guaranteed two hits, twice, on each ship.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



The 501st posted this to their facebook page.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Raged posted:

Pwatched it about ten times already. Looks like poo poo is gonna get dark as gently caress

As dark as the T-70 getting SLAM capability, apparently.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
If T-85s have SLAM I honestly don't know what I'll do. It's an interaction I don't generally like a whole bunch, even though it can definitely be useful. Definitely had a couple games with T-70s where disengaging for distance were important and difficult, but with increased costs (because of course they will) I don't know how viable my style of play would be, and that kinda worries me. I don't have much confidence in FFG to balance things lately.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

bunnyofdoom posted:

100 points. Must include one of the following
Scum: hwk290 or starviper
Emp: decimator, lambda, tie advanced
Rebel: attack shuttle, Ewing.

Cannot include:
Scum: protectorate, jump master, z95
Emp: tie fighter tie defender tie inceptor
Rebwl: t65 t70 and the kwing.


Basically ships used most often in the league banned, less used required.


I am expecting some nym corrans tbh

Nym/Palob/Guri.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Strobe posted:

If T-85s have SLAM I honestly don't know what I'll do. It's an interaction I don't generally like a whole bunch, even though it can definitely be useful. Definitely had a couple games with T-70s where disengaging for distance were important and difficult, but with increased costs (because of course they will) I don't know how viable my style of play would be, and that kinda worries me. I don't have much confidence in FFG to balance things lately.

I'd be shocked if they don't introduce a discard-on-use SLAM tech at this point.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

thespaceinvader posted:

I'd be shocked if they don't introduce a discard-on-use SLAM tech at this point.

There's the one from Heroes of the Resistance

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Improbable Lobster posted:

There's the one from Heroes of the Resistance

It's Illicit slot rather than Tech slot, though.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Or for that matter, maybe just an alternate title that grants the Illicit slot (and makes him count as a large ship for it), so he can get the HSB from TFA as well. Or just a tech that says 'Black One Only: you may equip Burnout SLAM, paying the squad point cost as normal'.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
There was a hotshot blaster onscreen in TFA and it never made it to a T-70 two years and a Heroes release pack later. I don't think there's a lot of reason to believe you'll see a T-70 get something special like an extra boost or slam or something

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
On the off chance anyone's looking for a new av:







Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I took this for a spin tonight, and hooo boy :stare:

Vader fun (99)

•Darth Vader (39) - TIE Advanced
•Lone Wolf (2), Proton Rockets (3), TIE/x1 (0), Engine Upgrade (4), Advanced Targeting Computer (5)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

I'm sold on the crackshot swarm. Utterly dissected a Cassian/Rey list with a bunch of trimmings, without losing a single ship. Didn't get a chance to run my Upsilon and SF TIE list in a normal game, we played a 3-person free for all when I broke that out and apparently my normal opponents have a distaste for QuickDraw, Backdraft, and anything that looks like an Upsilon shuttle :v: I got ganged up on and lost, but not before showing off the dark side to a few people and stripping shields from one or two others. The wookie gunship is a tough little bastard to bring down :(

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Icon Of Sin posted:

I took this for a spin tonight, and hooo boy :stare:

Vader fun (99)

•Darth Vader (39) - TIE Advanced
•Lone Wolf (2), Proton Rockets (3), TIE/x1 (0), Engine Upgrade (4), Advanced Targeting Computer (5)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Pilot (15) - TIE Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

I'm sold on the crackshot swarm. Utterly dissected a Cassian/Rey list with a bunch of trimmings, without losing a single ship. Didn't get a chance to run my Upsilon and SF TIE list in a normal game, we played a 3-person free for all when I broke that out and apparently my normal opponents have a distaste for QuickDraw, Backdraft, and anything that looks like an Upsilon shuttle :v: I got ganged up on and lost, but not before showing off the dark side to a few people and stripping shields from one or two others. The wookie gunship is a tough little bastard to bring down :(

Yeah, that's a fun squad!

Ace + Miniswarm was a very valid archetype at a competitive level prior to Palpatine's release (when it became better to have him + another ace). Bombs are keeping it down now.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Guns for Hire is out on Oct 26th. Won't be valid for Aussie nationals

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

bunnyofdoom posted:

100 points. Must include one of the following
Scum: hwk290 or starviper
Emp: decimator, lambda, tie advanced
Rebel: attack shuttle, Ewing.

Cannot include:
Scum: protectorate, jump master, z95
Emp: tie fighter tie defender tie inceptor
Rebwl: t65 t70 and the kwing.


Basically ships used most often in the league banned, less used required.


I am expecting some nym corrans tbh

Correction. Actual rules

quote:

-100pt builds
-Must include a ship depending on faction
Scum (HWK-290, Starviper)
Rebel (Attack shuttle, E-wing)
Empire (Firespray, TIE Advanced, Lambda, Decimator)

-May not include the following ships
Scum (Z-95, Aggressors, Jumpmaster, Protectorates)
Rebel (T-70, A-wing, X-wing)
Empire (TIE Fighter, TIE Defender, TIE Bomber)
-You must have fun and show up with a smile on your face!!!


I wish I have a Tie Advanced, Lamda, Deci or raider.

GFH is not legal for this.

I am expecting alot of Corran tbh.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





bunnyofdoom posted:

Correction. Actual rules



I wish I have a Tie Advanced, Lamda, Deci or raider.

GFH is not legal for this.

I am expecting alot of Corran tbh.

It's a shame you don't have a Lambda or Palp because I think the Imperial Assholes would be a baller list in this format.

Palpshuttle + Standard Inquisitor (or barebones Carnor Jax) + Wampa + Omega Leader

Edit: Oh poo poo I saw that the bog-standard TIE Fighter is in the banned list. WTF

ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Oct 11, 2017

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Expect a lot of corran/ Miranda.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Raged posted:

Expect a lot of corran/ Miranda.

I am. My target will be Miranda.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
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My tanky Rey/Ghost list will do very well against Corran/Miranda. The ghost can block or just K-turn to follow either ace ship. Rey is a full-blown turret so even if they start running it's unlikely they can get away and stay away to fully regen. Both hit like trucks. And it's gonna take 3 rounds minimum to kill either of them, even counting a range 1 double tap from Corran where every hit lands.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

ConfusedUs posted:

My tanky Rey/Ghost list will do very well against Corran/Miranda. The ghost can block or just K-turn to follow either ace ship. Rey is a full-blown turret so even if they start running it's unlikely they can get away and stay away to fully regen. Both hit like trucks. And it's gonna take 3 rounds minimum to kill either of them, even counting a range 1 double tap from Corran where every hit lands.

Does the ghost have an attack shuttle? Otherwise, can't use it.

ConfusedUs posted:

It's a shame you don't have a Lambda or Palp because I think the Imperial Assholes would be a baller list in this format.

Palpshuttle + Standard Inquisitor (or barebones Carnor Jax) + Wampa + Omega Leader

Edit: Oh poo poo I saw that the bog-standard TIE Fighter is in the banned list. WTF

Banned list was based off most commonly used ships in the league games.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





bunnyofdoom posted:

Does the ghost have an attack shuttle? Otherwise, can't use it.

Huh you're right.

I've come to the conclusion that I really hate these types of alt-format games because the rules seem so arbitrary. No one wants to use a loving attack shuttle because they're awful.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

ConfusedUs posted:

Huh you're right.

I've come to the conclusion that I really hate these types of alt-format games because the rules seem so arbitrary. No one wants to use a loving attack shuttle because they're awful.

The point of it was to force people out of their comfort. Again, this is an end of league tournament, and you have to use a ship you wouldn't otherwise use. Not really arbitrary. Besides, I'm looking forwards to a tournament that's not meta meta meta. Now I have to blame my actual lovely playing for my bad results.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





bunnyofdoom posted:

Now I have to blame my actual lovely playing for my bad results.

No, you'll lose because you didn't choose Corran/Miranda.

I can't think of anything you could possibly make from that asinine list of restricted/required that can hold a candle to a practiced Corran/Miranda. Palp Aces (Best is probably Vader/Prockets Inquisitor) and Deci/Ace will just get bombed to oblivion and/or lose on time. Not a single good Scum list is possible, although you can make middling ones like 4x TLT Y-Wings.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
Does it count if the shuttle is docked to the Ghost?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

IronSaber posted:

Does it count if the shuttle is docked to the Ghost?

Yes

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Kanan lowhrik looks good too.

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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




X-Wing: •Wedge Antilles (31)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Crack Shot (1)
R2 Astromech (1)

ARC-170: •Norra Wexley (37)
Alliance Overhaul (0)
Push the Limit (3)
•Kyle Katarn (3)
•BB-8 (2)

ARC-170: •Shara Bey (31)
Alliance Overhaul (0)
Adaptability (+1) (0)
•"Chopper" (0)
•M9-G8 (3)

Total: 99/100

I feel like this could be a lot better.

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