moths posted:

I can't believe I finally pulled the trigger on a Baneblade.

It feels like a waste to paint it in the Steel Legion colors, but super heavies don't get regimental buffs unless they're in a whole detachment anyway, right?

moths posted:

I can't believe I finally pulled the trigger on a Baneblade.

It feels like a waste to paint it in the Steel Legion colors, but super heavies don't get regimental buffs unless they're in a whole detachment anyway, right?

Uroboros posted:

As far as releases goes the Space Marine and Adeptus Mechanicus got the short end of the stick. Space Marine stratagems in particular when compared to CSM or AM in their usefulness and power are vastly inferior.

Honestly, I am still holding out hope that the changes to the AM codex had been put down months before it was going to be clear that AM were so powerful, because many of the changes are clearly wrong-headed. The last thing the ShadowSword needed was a buff, it alone invalidates Knight lists, and makes bringing Land Raiders or any other large vehicle or creature pointless.

If chapter approved doesn't make some serious changes then I am not looking forward to 2018 in the competitive scene.

Strobe posted:

Knights aren't particularly scary I'm just annoyed at how Superheavies in general show up in every single minor skirmish. If the threat of Shadowswords being a hard-counter keeps most Lords of War off the field I'll be a happy person.

moths posted:

I can't believe I finally pulled the trigger on a Baneblade.

It feels like a waste to paint it in the Steel Legion colors, but super heavies don't get regimental buffs unless they're in a whole detachment anyway, right?

Uroboros posted:

Honestly, I am still holding out hope that the changes to the AM codex had been put down months before it was going to be clear that AM were so powerful,

chutche2 posted:

Yeah but you can make a supreme command detachment with 3 HQs and the baneblade and get your regiment buff. Like even 3 primaris psykers plus a baneblade would be a legit steel legion detachment.

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Have more pride!

Strobe posted:

I hate Knights...

I use a Riptide

Master Twig posted:

I really hate these superheavies as a Tyranids player. Mostly because they have basically no way to kill them.

I'm almost at the point where I only want to run characters with fewer than 10 wounds, and single wound models. Anything tougher than that just gets deleted effortlessly. With most tough things I can just assault with swarms and tie up, but superheavies don't care about that.

Also doesn't help that nids have pretty much zero shooting to deal with heavies. Exocrines and Tyrannofexes are okay, but usually fail to actually kill anything.

mango sentinel posted:

Zaphod42 posted:

Dude its supposed to be 40,000 years in the future, of COURSE the terms would become bastardized over time. They're not meant to be historical, go play other tabletop if you want historical. But instead of calling it a "Space Marine Diggerydoo" where you have to learn all these made up names, instead they pull from common lexicon, so "Space Marine Battalion" even though its not a fixed battalion. Same as using nicknames for weapons and technology instead of calling everything "gun mark 18-c" Get over it.

Uroboros posted:

Those complaining about the Imperial Guard unit sizes not matching up with their real world counterparts are really wasting their energy. That poo poo is explained in the fluff pretty quickly, there is no galaxy-wide standard, and it is really just up to the planet that raises them. Sure, the GW guys don't have real world military experience, but you'd be a fool to think that the current structures in numbers are the most optimized ways to run a military unit.

Strobe posted:

Yeah, quote the single word and not the part where I said I don't even like doing that.

I'm genuinely curious in what game they're even remotely similar except in points cost. It's sure as gently caress not capability because Riptides aren't even half as good (and that's probably a stretch). Did you get it mixed up with a Stormsurge, maybe?

chutche2 posted:

Hey, Yarrick can order himself and other commissars with Voice of Command. He can give himself the fix bayonets order. Fix Bayonets put onto a company commander the turn after they heroic intervention into a fight has been amazing for me this edition.



Thanks for reminding me that doesn't work though because I was going to take that warlord trait on my lord commissar.

Genghis Cohen posted:

Sorry to keep on about this if it's really boring to people. I feel that I've miscommunicated my point a bit here. I don't want or expect the imaginary space army to be organised to a detailed, functional standard. I was trying to explain why it's silly to compare the imaginary space uses of real words like 'regiment' to their actual counterparts.

Basically, I always find it futile when people start to examine how many men are in a 40k IG unit or construct an army to fit that idea. It's much better to just not think about it and imagine your model collection as just a snapshot of some guys fighting in a given place.

moths posted:

I can't believe I finally pulled the trigger on a Baneblade.

It feels like a waste to paint it in the Steel Legion colors, but super heavies don't get regimental buffs unless they're in a whole detachment anyway, right?

Strobe posted:

If the existence of Shadowswords keeps Knights from being on every single goddamn table (sometimes two or three at a time) then they're fine by me.

I am biased, because the biggest thing I ever use is a Riptide and even then only because I don't have enough smaller suits for my liking.

mango sentinel posted:

We're in Leaf Blower 2.0 territory right?

Giant Isopod posted:

I think the errors that got replicated from the Admech index to the codex supports that theory

Corrode 741425 9637802 f3699d9cd9bb5e19f105de0609961777.jpg posted:

They've said multiple times that the Studio is working on stuff 2-3 years ahead, so their project planning is about that long in terms of the whole package - what models are being made, roughly when stuff is due to be released, etc.

Of course with that kind of timescale hitting an exact month is unlikely - more probably they have multiple projects at once all aiming for Q2 2020, which then settle into a spread from Q4 2019 to Q4 2020 as they get closer to the time and work out the finer details of exactly which releases slot in where.

In terms of the immediate run-up before a book is released, I'd expect a timescale more along the lines of:

T-90 days: Book is substantially complete, galley proofs are sent to the printer to give them an idea of set-up, layout etc.
T-60 days: Final revisions made, last-minute changes committed, etc. Test copies reviewed before first print run.
T-50 days: Printing begins, stock builds up in China, local logistics organised.
T-45 days: Ship loads and leaves port.
T-8 days: Books arrive in port, go out through local logistics.
T-3 days: Books arrive in store (typically our local gets theirs in on the Wednesday before a Saturday release).

So a 90 day timescale fits, probably up or down by 10 days depending on circumstances. Any more than that and they'd be sat on stock they couldn't sell, any less than that and you run the risk of disaster.

You can see this in the index + early codex releases. Errors picked up from the indexes were not corrected in any codex up to the Death Guard book, but Militarum has the "1 command squad per officer" change which was made in the FAQ and the Baneblade error corrected (the Baneblade didn't ignore moving for Heavy weapons but all other SHVs did). The Conscripts and Scions issues were obvious practically immediately so they had time to do something about them before the book went to print.

berzerkmonkey posted:

Fortress of Arrogance. That is all.

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I was gonna say, Steel Legion lay claim to The Mother Of All Baneblades.

Yarrick loving rules.

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

The Riptide is way too expensive for what it is. For 21 more points than a Riptide, you can park a Shadowsword in the back corner of a 6x4 and melt anything you want every turn with impunity. Even though you mentioned you aren't really worried about knights, I'd be more worried about guard tanks now.

I'm really interested in seeing what they have in store for the Tau considering the codex releases thus far.

Uroboros posted:

While I am upset about the AM changes, it is still worth mentioning that most of the top spots are going to mixed Chaos armies, and I don't know if any of these AM changes will change that.