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botany posted:he's rich and white. entitlement is the drug you're looking for, i'm pretty sure. and tge fact he shrugged off a taser
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Maybe it's possible that both prongs of the taser didn't stick and he was just reacting to having one of them hit him? Also, does anyone have any more info on that video? Where's it from, who the cop is, who the suspect is, etc?
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Oct 10, 2017 19:03
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:and tge fact he shrugged off a taser Wasn't there a goon a few years back that shrugged off multiple taser darts?
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Oct 10, 2017 19:15
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You can hit pretty much dead on with a taser and sometimes it still won't be enough to bring a guy down, that's considering them landing cleanly and not getting tangled up in a guy's shirt or something either. Tasers as they are can really suck rear end and be a crapshoot at times, it'd probably be great if they took some of that local PD AR and armored truck money and used it to work on some better non-lethal ("Less-than-lethal" to preempt pedantry) designs instead.
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Yardbomb posted:("Less-than-lethal" to preempt pedantry) Less Lethal. It's not pedantry, people die from these things.
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Pedantry as in people already know, getting beanbagged in the wrong bit can kill you, idiots lighting someone up either too long or just in unfortunate enough circumstances (Pacemaker etc.) can kill you and to attempt warding off someone like DR tumbling in like a dumbass to try and drag down a discussion in details.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:46
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Party Plane Jones posted:From the IRC crowd: Oh my god
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Jaxyon posted:Less Lethal. It's not pedantry, people die from these things. No, they die from 'excited delirium' which is totally coincidental and has nothing to do with TASER INTERNATIONAL. The police using them for compliance are equally nonliable for those deaths. It's all on the criminal, the dastardly villain, purposefully taking their own life to cast suspicion on our brave boys in blue and patriotic multinational corps.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:51
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Party Plane Jones posted:From the IRC crowd: im not sure you could find a better example of white privilege.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:54
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Also it's important to remember that "rubber bullets" are steel balls with a rubber coating, not a chunk of solid rubber.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:55
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Instant Sunrise posted:Also it's important to remember that "rubber bullets" are steel balls with a rubber coating, not a chunk of solid rubber. Wouldn't like, a shotgun slug made of solid rubber sting like gently caress?
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Oct 10, 2017 19:56
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Yes.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:58
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If you gently caress up, you can stop a heart, bust the femoral or carotid arteries, and bruise the brain with rubber bullets.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:59
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Gort posted:Wouldn't like, a shotgun slug made of solid rubber sting like gently caress? I feel like "sting" would be a bit of an understatement there.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Also it's important to remember that "rubber bullets" are steel balls with a rubber coating, not a chunk of solid rubber. The proper method for deployment of riot rounds in SMGs was to shoot at the ground and have the rounds ricochet up.  
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like "sting" would be a bit of an understatement there. So why the gently caress put a steel ball in the middle of it? You'll already gently caress people up, why risk killing people when you could just load lethal rounds if that's your intent? Just plausible deniability?
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Gort posted:So why the gently caress put a steel ball in the middle of it? You'll already gently caress people up, why risk killing people when you could just load lethal rounds if that's your intent? Just plausible deniability? It's also why it's called "less than lethal" instead of "nonlethal" now. Can't hold them responsible for the nonzero chance they end up killing someone with their less than lethal weapons.
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All of that making the case even better for "Stop loading up cops with army toys and fix the non/less/less-than-lethal options"
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Gort posted:So why the gently caress put a steel ball in the middle of it? You'll already gently caress people up, why risk killing people when you could just load lethal rounds if that's your intent? Just plausible deniability? Even a pure rubber round will still kill someone if used incorrectly. And that caveat at the end there is exactly why it's so important to emphasize "less lethal" - because if the people using them get too used to treating them as non-lethal, they tend to play fast and loose with the rules because they think the worst that'll happen is someone gets hurt a little worst than usual. If the rules aren't strictly enforced and public outcry doesn't result, then that kind of abuse worsens and becomes routine, and the next thing you know officers are shooting kids in the face at close range and acting all surprised when they end up maimed or killed by the "non-lethal" bullet.
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All this said, it seems like I most often hear of nasty injuries caused by tear gas canisters smacking people in the face.
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Party Plane Jones posted:The proper method for deployment of riot rounds in SMGs was to shoot at the ground and have the rounds ricochet up. Why wouldn't the manufacturer not simply use less gunpowder?
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Mister Facetious posted:Why wouldn't the manufacturer not simply use less gunpowder? That's for a full auto Thompson so you probably need a minimum amount of powder in each bullet to keep the action firing reliably. Hit a dud and things will stick.
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Stereotype posted:im not sure you could find a better example of white privilege. And that cop should be fired. Gross incompetence.
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Party Plane Jones posted:From the IRC crowd: yowza
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Party Plane Jones posted:The proper method for deployment of riot rounds in SMGs was to shoot at the ground and have the rounds ricochet up. Used to be SOP in Nevada for correctional officers to use bird shot in similar fashion. Yes, it killed people.
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Stereotype posted:im not sure you could find a better example of white privilege. There was a video posted here maybe a month or two ago showing some open carry fanatics walking into a police station wearing balaclavas and carrying assault rifles. This one is pretty egregious, but that one set the standard for me.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:There was a video posted here maybe a month or two ago showing some open carry fanatics walking into a police station wearing balaclavas and carrying assault rifles. This one is pretty egregious, but that one set the standard for me. Not sure why that was a problem because open carry is clearly not a threat. Furthermore
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:There was a video posted here maybe a month or two ago showing some open carry fanatics walking into a police station wearing balaclavas and carrying assault rifles. This one is pretty egregious, but that one set the standard for me. Didn't they get a bunch of police guns pointed at them first? But yeah, they walked right on out of there. https://twitter.com/illegalhex/status/917504192985608195
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWsDHA0VYFc Just leaving this here. Curious of reactions. The guy in the video runs L2 Research and is also a professor at Stern (NYU).
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Gort posted:All this said, it seems like I most often hear of nasty injuries caused by tear gas canisters smacking people in the face. how about the flash bang that landed in a baby crib
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FuturePastNow posted:how about the flash bang that landed in a baby crib or did the baby land in the flashbang basket?
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 obama's pretending he had no idea that weinstein was a rapist
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Condiv posted:
He implies no such thing. He only says that he finds Weinstein's behavior disgusting.
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business hammocks posted:He implies no such thing. He only says that he finds Weinstein's behavior disgusting. he says that weinstein should be condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth and status. if he knew such things were happening then his statement is hollow, as he had quite the chance, as potus, to condemn weinstein and hold him accountable, but chose to remain silent. therefore, yes, he is in fact implying he was unaware
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Condiv posted:he says that weinstein should be condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth and status. if he knew such things were happening then his statement is hollow, as he had quite the chance, as potus, to condemn weinstein and hold him accountable, but chose to remain silent. therefore, yes, he is in fact implying he was unaware He says that "any man who degrades women in such fashion" should be condemned. I guess he's saying that he believes the charges are true, though. That's more directness than I would expect from Obama.
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business hammocks posted:He says that "any man who degrades women in such fashion" should be condemned. I guess he's saying that he believes the charges are true, though. That's more directness than I would expect from Obama. While it's clearly about Weinstein. Any man can also apply to Trump on this issue.
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Condiv posted:
Why would he have known though?
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Condiv posted:
Pass that buck a bit harder Barry. While keeping all the ones Big Harv gave you nice and hidden, of course.
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Stereotype posted:Why would he have known though? " 
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