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ESPN had good hockey writers and good online stuff, it just never was on TV
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Awful Announcing posted:In essence, ESPN has replaced Pierre LeBrun, Scott Burnside, Joe McDonald, Craig Constance, and several others with former MMQB reporter Emily Kaplan and Wyshynski. Though we won’t call that an even swap, the network is clearly committed to at least some hockey coverage. "some" is a hell of an overstatement
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DJExile posted:lmao jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA
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If by "Why are they even bothering?" you meant ESPN and not the writers, I apologize for posting the Simpsons at you.
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Work Friend Keven posted:If by "Why are they even bothering?" you meant ESPN and not the writers, I apologize for posting the Simpsons at you. yeah it was that, although in retrospect I can see how it'd sound like i was calling out th ewriters
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https://twitter.com/steakNstiffarms/status/918177753144311809 3 guesses as to what sports site wrote this and thought it was in any way acceptable or enforceable v got it in one v Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Barstool Sports is Douche Chills: The Website
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Benne posted:Barstool Sports is Douche Chills: The Website The most Boston of websites.
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I'm amazed that Barstool thought their response to this story should be an unhinged video reply that basically hits every misogynistic reply possible short of complaining that she wouldn't expose herself to them because she wasn't any fun.
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Pretty sick how she didnt say who it was, but everyone knew who it was, and they admitted it on their own by having their idiot in charge fling poop for 3 minutes. ESPN had really better bail on them
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I think ESPN cares less about Barstool and more about Pardon My Take which is actually really good.
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Hope this leads to PMT bailing on Barstool, but there seems to be a dumb sense of loyalty there even from dudes who should know betterr
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Eh Barstool is poo poo but, that type of agreement isn't rare in spaces where there is a writers room for comedy or production work. It's usually separate from an actual harrasment policy from HR that you usually get.
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I get everything about Barstool besides the snitching nature of the fans. Is this just common now among fan bases and this is the one I'm seeing the most now?
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Willninho posted:I get everything about Barstool besides the snitching nature of the fans. Is this just common now among fan bases and this is the one I'm seeing the most now? No, they are far and away the worst at this. They namesearch and even if some rando with 100 followers says "wow barstool really sucks" they're in the replies tagging in Portnoy or KFC. The fact that they do absolutely nothing to discourage this is why all their "but we don't promote or tolerate harassment" stuff is such empty, meaningless bullshit.
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xbilkis posted:Hope this leads to PMT bailing on Barstool, but there seems to be a dumb sense of loyalty there even from dudes who should know betterr It's still probably the best spot for him. He's a real funny guy and no matter what you think about Barstool, they are really good at getting content out there and limiting restrictions on it (which can be good and bad). He went from writing weekly satire on SBnation for a few hundred bucks a pop to having one of the most popular sports podcasts out there. Guy got a profile in Rolling Stone this week. What other outlet could possibly get him this kind of exposure and not force him to tone down his schtick? The Ringer maybe?
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Some idiot asked Bryce Harper how he thought the Cubs/Dodgers series would go. Harper handled it fair well, and Casey Stern of TBS put the guy on blast. https://twitter.com/BackAftaThis/status/918711928834240514
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Niwrad posted:It's still probably the best spot for him. He's a real funny guy and no matter what you think about Barstool, they are really good at getting content out there and limiting restrictions on it (which can be good and bad). He went from writing weekly satire on SBnation for a few hundred bucks a pop to having one of the most popular sports podcasts out there. Guy got a profile in Rolling Stone this week. I always thought it'd be a limited gimmick and at some point he'd have to break kayfabe and become just another guy out there, but he's gone further and had more success within the gimmick then I thought possible, so good on him. At some point PMT is gonna have to realize that Barstool is limiting their growth/appeal. Either they can stay loyal and not maximize their potential, or break free and risk Barstool's mouth-breathing audience turning on them. There's the remote possibility they somehow influence Barstool to grow up and stop being racist mysognists dicks, but I wouldn't bet on that.
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C. Everett Koop posted:At some point PMT is gonna have to realize that Barstool is limiting their growth/appeal. Either they can stay loyal and not maximize their potential, or break free and risk Barstool's mouth-breathing audience turning on them. There's the remote possibility they somehow influence Barstool to grow up and stop being racist mysognists dicks, but I wouldn't bet on that. Agreed. There's a certain segment of a potential audience that rejects Barstool that they could get, if they break free.
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AsInHowe posted:Agreed. There's a certain segment of a potential audience that rejects Barstool that they could get, if they break free. I dunno. I've subscribed to PMT for about a year now and I've never been on Barstool. It's pretty easy to separate the two.
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Adun posted:I dunno. I've subscribed to PMT for about a year now and I've never been on Barstool. It's pretty easy to separate the two. Up until the next time someone from Barstool goes too far and the heat really falls on PMT. Their new show has the Barstool label, not their own, and the more visibility they get the more people will hold them responsible for the rest of the chucklefucks on the site. Then again ESPN could decide the MAGA crowd is the one they want so who knows.
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lmao at bill simmons writing 10,000 words about how jemele hill is exactly like the time bill simmons was silenced for getting angry about deflategate
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R.D. Mangles posted:lmao at bill simmons writing 10,000 words about how jemele hill is exactly like the time bill simmons was silenced for getting angry about deflategate I can't believe that a white author would take the work of a black author and make it all about themselves.
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The real highlight of Bill Simmons today is his podcast with Bob Costas. One segment is as follows: - Bob Costas hosted a late-night interview show after Letterman on NBC. - Bob considered leaving NBC for CBS because Dave wanted him to follow the Late Show, but Bob turned it down. - Bob then recently read an article about sports figures who could host late night shows, and the author mentioned how Bob Costas could never do that, because he has no sense of humor. Bob was very mad about this! Bob was very mad that the internet has allowed anyone to write something like that without having any knowledge and background of the topic. None of this is a joke. Here is Later with Bob Costas, a 15:44 uncut, dead serious interview with Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwilzinSXT8
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R.D. Mangles posted:lmao at bill simmons writing 10,000 words about how jemele hill is exactly like the time bill simmons was silenced for getting angry about deflategate oh my god this is a real thing
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Why would you doubt it it's the most Bill thing possible.
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I didn't realize he still wrote things, I thought he just did podcasts with his buddy Snot or whatever
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MourningView posted:I didn't realize he still wrote things, I thought he just did podcasts with his buddy Snot or whatever
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FMguru posted:The Ringer's ratings and traffic have been deflating like one of Tom Brady's footballs, so Bill is trying to rescue his website by getting off his podcasting couch and contributing a weekly NFL picks/mailbag/what's on my mind column. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theringer.com Bill is a baby and he sucks but you could try to do some cursory research too
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That article reminds me of what Charlie Pierce once said about Bill's book. It was something along the lines of "somewhere in there is a good book." I think somewhere in that article was a good (albeit not new) point about the inherent conflicts of interest ESPN has. Yet, instead of expanding on that he reverted to his default egotism. So far one of the best "takes" I've heard about this whole situation was from Le Batard. I'm not sure if he's completely correct but he basically said a big problem here was that Hill was doing it on twitter. According to him, had she just suggested what she tweeted on her show she would have never been suspended because all the attention would be centred around ESPN DEBATE and not on her own account. Then again, maybe its naive to think that just b/c old honkeys can dog whistle on first take doesn't mean a black woman can speak her mind. Either way, it's still stupid. She didn't say anything inflammatory. People suggest "boycotts" all the time, hell, one of the most popular refrains in sport debates is "if you don't like it stop watching." She should be able to use her own Twitter account to speak her mind. That explanation though at least got me thinking that it wasn't 100% based on ESPN being loser cowards, just 90% cowards and 10% greedy.
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I think it can't be overlooked that Jemele Hill is also a woman in a male-dominated field and that makes the kind of dumbasses who get mad at her uncomfortable in the first place. Bomani Jones tweets equally controversial things as her all the time but as far as I can tell has never gotten in real trouble with the network.
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Cool Buff Man posted:https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theringer.com it's almost like the guy who didn't realize costas had a late night show i read somebody's opinion a while back ringer traffic was bad because he wasn't writing, he was probably busy with the hbo show at least this football season he had more than the same 3 podcast guests every week
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Henchman of Santa posted:I think it can't be overlooked that Jemele Hill is also a woman in a male-dominated field and that makes the kind of dumbasses who get mad at her uncomfortable in the first place. Bomani Jones tweets equally controversial things as her all the time but as far as I can tell has never gotten in real trouble with the network. That and They didn’t spend millions of dollars rebranding their flagship show around Bomani Jones. For clarity, I don’t think that should matter, but it absolutely does.
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Adun posted:I dunno. I've subscribed to PMT for about a year now and I've never been on Barstool. It's pretty easy to separate the two. I never read anything on Barstool and listen to PMT pretty regularly, I even bought a pair of shirts from them (the Giants-logo SNACKS and YABO!) but I really regret giving them money now. I should have done...research? I guess? I really only found out about a lot of Barstool's shittiness lately from people I follow on Twitter.
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