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MA-Horus posted:for fucks sake that looks so goddamn retarded why are a few sections of hull just spinning Maybe it is experimental armor plating? If I recall correctly STE had some kind of energised armor plating because shields weren't very good yet. So this experimental science ship could be trying armor plating again. By having the armor spin you make it hard for the enemy to focus fire on a weak spot. Or maybe they use the spinny bits rubbing against the ship to generate massive amounts of static electricity. For science.
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The General posted:But why? Just looks dumb. I do like the barrel roll they do before they go though. Focus testing has determined that the kids are really into fidget spinners and CBS is hoping to capitalize on this trend
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Facebook Aunt posted:Oh dear, I'm starting to think the spinny bits weren't well thought out at all. I was looking for a gif or something that would show the ship, found this from april:
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I don't know that the cutouts in the saucer are so bad really. It does let you put more windows in that area and saucers tend to be crew quarters, and this is a science ship, so extra surface area isn't that big of a deal when your main defense is shields anyways and you're not specifically designed for combat. Getting around wouldn't be hindered that much either. The hallways (at least in the D) tend to be concentric circles with rooms on either side, and there's probably only so many points on that circle where a hallway would lead to a larger or smaller circular hallway. It's the same case here, except instead of not being able to walk through interior walls, instead you're not able to walk through open space. It certainly doesn't do any favors to the structural integrity of the ship, but since when have star trek ships ever looked that structurally sound on their own anyways? I'm sure they all have tecnobabble integrity field amplifiers or something, and again, rely on shields mostly anyways. The spinning, even if it's not the whole saucer section like people are implying, is pretty dumb, I have to agree. Sadly, every ship has to have a gimmick, these are the same federation engineers that would later go on to build a ship with two separate hulls, then build a ship with little bendy nacelles because they magically stop warp pollution, then build a ship with THREE separate hulls that can go into battle mode and also house an Andy Dick hologram on the bridge. Truly the most shameful ship.
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Frank Gehry: starship designer. I guess it's hard to make a name for yourself when you live in a post scarcity society full of over-educated geniuses.
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*sees an airplane* Wait, that plus-shaped thing on the front spins around? That is so dumb, who came up with that? And it spins so fast you can't even see it, so what's the point?
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Powered Descent posted:*sees an airplane* Wait, that plus-shaped thing on the front spins around? That is so dumb, who came up with that? And it spins so fast you can't even see it, so what's the point? Why do those stupid little flaps on the wings move up and down at a 45-degree angle? Probably because some idiot producer said the plane had to "change shape" or some poo poo.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:42
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yea the spinning makes it faster
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Oct 11, 2017 23:52
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I'm just going to pretend Orville is startrek. Say what you want about MacFarlane, he understands Startrek and what makes it Startrek. STD is bargain bin Starwars.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:I'm just going to pretend Orville is startrek. Say what you want about MacFarlane, he understands Startrek and what makes it Startrek. What makes The Orville so good is that it knows when it needs to be serious and just lets storytelling happen without forcing a joke in. The cast are all competent in their jobs, they've just got flawed personalities without devolving into being all rear end in a top hat/broody towards eachother like ST:D apparently does.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:32
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Oct 12, 2017 02:37
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Someone clearly likes Deadpool. Seriously though, Orville isn't perfect but it hits that sweet spot of fun Scifi adventure. I don't want to watch distopia future poo poo.
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Oct 12, 2017 03:10
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Buckwheat Sings posted:I don't want to watch distopia future poo poo.
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The sarcastic Engineer is starting to grow on me a bit. He's showing a little bit more emotion and humanity, and I can see him quickly being one of the more likeable characters. A likeable rear end in a top hat like Bronn from Game of Thrones. Nobody else other than ensign acne has really made much of an impression so far, but then again it's episode 4.
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shadow puppet of a posted:The suffering of the Bajoran people is a beautiful backdrop on which to paint. Not all future dystopias are created equal. DS9 still started out as hopeful. Bajor was post-apocalyptic. The worst had already happened: their population was decimated, their resources were plundered, and their environment was trashed. So things can only get better, and federation good guys are there to help. And look, we just found this incredibly valuable stable wormhole in your backyard. Yay!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMBUa7w9K4
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Oct 12, 2017 03:54
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Things did not get better. There were famines and inter-d'jarra murders going on all the time, through every season. The station residents just got better at ignoring it.
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it's from voyager I heard they had to make STD stupid in order to avoid paying royalties
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shadow puppet of a posted:Things did not get better. There were famines and inter-d'jarra murders going on all the time, through every season. Bajorans just be cray cray, that's all there is to it. I mean those people were ready to start a god drat civil war because some farmers weren't bringing their tractors back on time. I can only imagine that the Bajoran caste system was first implemented because some chucklefucks from Kendra province were not kind and did not rewind, it directly led to mass rioting, and the Kai at the time decided those people need to be taught a lesson.
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To be fair, their Kai is like our equivalent of Trump and she's also cool with attemptive murder, taking credit for others sacrifices, and power over all. That final episode felt rushed as hell though.
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Maybe Bajor is perfectly fine, its just that an awful lot of people are members of the starving blanket thief d'jarra?
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I've said it before a buncha times, but the original setup of The Orville seems like it'd fit perfectly into post-Voyager; the Federation's able to rebuild its fleet easily enough after the Dominion War and incorporate new technology and tactics, but the losses of officers mean they have to scrape the barrel for qualified crews, and has more brushfires than ever to deal with between technological advances, contact from the Gamma and Delta quadrants, and minor powers expanding as the major ones recover.
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Inescapable Duck posted:I've said it before a buncha times, but the original setup of The Orville seems like it'd fit perfectly into post-Voyager; the Federation's able to rebuild its fleet easily enough after the Dominion War and incorporate new technology and tactics, but the losses of officers mean they have to scrape the barrel for qualified crews, and has more brushfires than ever to deal with between technological advances, contact from the Gamma and Delta quadrants, and minor powers expanding as the major ones recover. On that note, I really love the little detail of the Kermit doll on Mercer's desk. His ideal leader isn't some great politician, it's the poor frog trying to hold together a bunch of weirdos and crazies together coherently through another day.
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Hector Beerlioz posted:im enjoying discovery and will continue to watch it Agreed
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Philthy posted:that leg gag tho I don't know if the leg that fell through the ceiling having more leg than what the pilot guy lost was intentional or not but I hope it is.
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Also I laughed out loud when the robot told him to look for it.
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On the spinning, it's dumb as hell, because the concept of spinning objects in spacecraft would be to generate centrifugal force as a way to simulate gravity. Babylon 5 did it right, Star Trek uses magic to create artificial gravity.
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Babylon 5 also used magic for gravity. Minbari ships and white stars had artificial gravity and no spinning sections.
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MA-Horus posted:for fucks sake that looks so goddamn retarded why are a few sections of hull just spinning gotta sell those novelty pizza cutters somehow
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Imagine being the Ensign who makes such a bad impression on the Captain that you get assigned quarters on Spin Deck. All your furniture gradually moves towards the wall. Every morning you show up for your shift feeling like you need to throw up. The morale officer blasts the one song by Dead Or Alive that survived the post-atomic horror over the deck's intercom. You spill one cup of replicated coffee on the Captain and you're Ensign Spin forever.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Babylon 5 also used magic for gravity. Minbari ships and white stars had artificial gravity and no spinning sections. White Stars were Minbari ships  Yeah, you have a point, I was thinking of Earth ships
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angerbeet posted:I mean, you have to let Trek shows hit their stride, Season 1 TNG was, well: How is that different from what Marvel is doing with Wakanda, teh african civilization that still uses high tech spears and poo poo  There's a movie coming out too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWvtMOGAhw
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Is adapting a black tribal culture automatically racist? I wasn't aware anyone was mad about how marvel was doing it. Star trek has a bad track record but I never heard of any serious anger about black panther
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Though it is retarded that they're usng spears and poo poo that's like if we developed super high tech and still used maces and axes or whatever
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i think sword fighting looks cooler than gun fighting, so i'm usually glad when sci-fantasy contrives reasons to do it that way.
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Facebook Aunt posted:DS9 still started out as hopeful. Bajor was post-apocalyptic. The worst had already happened: their population was decimated, their resources were plundered, and their environment was trashed. So things can only get better, and federation good guys are there to help. And look, we just found this incredibly valuable stable wormhole in your backyard. Yay! Bajorans suffering isn't a future dystopia, that's just Tuesday.
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Do I have a franchise for u: When are we getting a Warhammer 40K tv show?? I want to follow a band of roided out fat old balding men who fight space orks
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