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GonadTheBallbarian posted:if i were the poor bastard that had to babysit a pres gone nuclear, i'd probably take the jail sentence for locking the doors and smashing the phones. Even if you went to jail you would almost certainly be guaranteed a pardon
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Don't we still use 7 inch floppy disks at a lot of the nuke silos? I feel like the decrepit state of our nuclear arsenal almost balances the instability of the guy in charge of deciding to use them.
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Adlai Stevenson posted:It's a politician trying to get all he can from a situation. He doesn't want nukes to drop but he also sees a window to get major legislation through. He wants both. It tastes pretty bad going down but so does most politics Wow, really makes you think.
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swickles posted:Don't we still use 7 inch floppy disks at a lot of the nuke silos? I feel like the decrepit state of our nuclear arsenal almost balances the instability of the guy in charge of deciding to use them. Old systems work really well, so you don't really want to modernize them.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:01
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Even if you went to jail you would almost certainly be guaranteed a pardon that's assuming that action wasn't a horrible mistake and it didn't cause the US to be wiped out, I guess, in this nauseating hypothetical
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Oct 12, 2017 19:02
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I can see why North Korea wants nukes
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Kalli posted:Old systems work really well, so you don't really want to modernize them. Plus you cant remotely hack a 7" floppy
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Jota posted:Wow, really makes you think. I wasn't trying to be condescending, honest. I'm just cynical in a very unproductive way sometimes.
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The hot question is whether this:25th amendment, section 4 posted:Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. can be done fast enough to prevent Trump from issuing a lawful order to the military to make a preemptive nuclear strike on north korea. Because if it can't, and anyone stops him from making that order by some other method, then it's a constitutional crisis. Presumably if someone in the military refused to follow that order, that'd be (effectively) a miniature military coup. It's critically important and foundational to our constitution that we have civilian control of the military. It also undermines the MAD principle, since it puts into question the willingness of a nuclear power to use its nuclear arsenal: MAD requires that both sides be willing to retaliate, in order for both sides to be ultimately restrained by fear of their own destruction. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 19:12
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Guess I'll take President Pence over a nuclear strike
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SHOAH NUFF posted:I can see why North Korea wants nukes Literally every country should get nukes to protect themselves from the US.
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Eli Wiggum posted:Guess I'll take President Pence over a nuclear strike Maybe if Trump gets removed he'll do enough retribution flailing to take a few more people out
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Oct 12, 2017 19:18
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the nuclear armed militaries of south sudan, venezuela, madagascar, lichtenstein, and the vatican
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Leperflesh posted:the nuclear armed militaries of south sudan, venezuela, madagascar, lichtenstein, and the vatican 
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Oct 12, 2017 19:22
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I feel that Iran getting nukes would be a net good in terms of stabilizing the Middle East but don't forget that North Korea is a crushing authoritarian hellhole with literally zero redeeming qualities and if it weren't for Trump being a saber rattling psycho we'd be rightfully outraged about them getting nukes.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:22
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Why as a private citizen am I not allowed to buy nukes? I'm willing to submit to a background check.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:26
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Good news is our nuclear babysitters are probably methed out or drunk as gently caress so would never be able to launch the nukes in a timely manner.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:28
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I am so pissed off right now. The restaurant manager at the Club I work at pitched a huge fit about the layout of a craft beer tasting that I put together. He of course does this the day of the event (today). And since our GM is out sick, he went to our Master Chef and got him to approve the change.
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pubic works project posted:I am so pissed off right now. The restaurant manager at the Club I work at pitched a huge fit about the layout of a craft beer tasting that I put together. He of course does this the day of the event (today). And since our GM is out sick, he went to our Master Chef and got him to approve the change. you should sleep with him to change his mind
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Oct 12, 2017 19:31
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Ehud posted:you should sleep with him to change his mind No he's ugly and stupid
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Oct 12, 2017 19:32
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pubic works project posted:No he's ugly and stupid Sounds like you're not that committed to the craft beer layout you originally planned 
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pubic works project posted:No he's ugly and stupid
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Oct 12, 2017 19:49
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true fact I was confused when the story broke because I always thought Harvey Weinstein was gay and then I realized I was thinking of Harvey Fierstein
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I've made many goons famous. Just hop on my discord and bring a webcam. Don't worry, a mod will be there.............
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Mel Mudkiper posted:true fact I was confused when the story broke because I always thought Harvey Weinstein was gay and then I realized I was thinking of Harvey Fierstein
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a patagonian cavy posted:Nixon's SecDef allegedly told the Joint Chiefs to ignore any nuclear strike order that wasn't approved by him, during the time that Nixon was being driven insane by the fallout around Watergate It wasn't his secdef, but rather chief of staff alexander haig. He was an active duty four star general who basically kept the country running during the height of the watergate scandal. He told the joint chiefs that no nuclear launch or any other attack was to come from anyone other than him.
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Mr. Nice! posted:It wasn't his secdef, but rather chief of staff alexander haig. He was an active duty four star general who basically kept the country running during the height of the watergate scandal. He told the joint chiefs that no nuclear launch or any other attack was to come from anyone other than him. Yeah. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-shachtman/al-haigs-dark-side_b_470706.html Dude was kind of awful, though, and doesn't deserve to have a good reputation on the basis of his decision to usurp military control from the president when the president was clearly unstable. Also, it should be noted that Nixon gave him those stars, jumping him over a lot of more qualified generals, and he was poo poo at military stuff too. quote:Haig quickly learned how to curry favor with Nixon: by feeding the president’s need to be bellicose. The White House tapes reveal Haig as the ultimate sycophant, urging Nixon to smite the enemy in Vietnam, unleash the bombs, stand tough against the Soviets, and, not incidentally, to keep Kissinger in his place — all in the violent, pusillanimous language that philosopher Lionel Rubinoff so aptly labeled “the pornography of power.” Nixon rewarded Haig with one star, two stars, four stars. He did everything he could to slow down the withdrawal from Vietnam, up to and including outright lying to the president about the situation there. He was poo poo. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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This seems like a good sequel to Nixonland https://www.amazon.com/Forty-Years-War-Neocons-Nixon/dp/B005Q74Q98
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The article I linked about is by Tom Shachtman, co-author of The Forty Years War, a book I've been meaning to read.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:true fact I was confused when the story broke because I always thought Harvey Weinstein was gay and then I realized I was thinking of Harvey Fierstein I googled Fierstein to remind myself what he looked like, and you are not the only one to make that mistake. Also it's sorta darkly hilarious that the New Yorker story that went into much deeper detail about Harvey Weinstein's horrific behavior was written by Ronan Farrow. https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/214387078966951937
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Skwirl posted:I googled Fierstein to remind myself what he looked like, and you are not the only one to make that mistake. Like I genuinely believe that is why the story was written. If anyone was unwilling to be silent about powerful men in Hollywood getting away with sexual abuse, it would be Ronan loving Farrow.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like I genuinely believe that is why the story was written. If anyone was unwilling to be silent about powerful men in Hollywood getting away with sexual abuse, it would be Ronan loving Farrow. Almost certainly.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:17
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Ohhhhh, that Farrow. Oh jeez.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:21
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Is there some form of non sexual personal vibrator I can use to loosen up my chronically tight muscles? Everything I find seems like a wink wink nod nod "personal massager". https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOYA2M2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This thing is awesome. My girlfriend and I both have one and it's really, really good.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:25
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If the massager doesn't work, my wife swears by a personal electric stim machine she got off amazon for like $30.
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axeil posted:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOYA2M2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Haha, this wasn't what you were going for but that still seems like a 'wink wink nod nod personal massager' review.
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Kalli posted:Ohhhhh, that Farrow. Oh jeez. Yeah, I don't usually notice the byline on news stories, so it wasn't until I read a different article about NBC News killing his story so he took it to The New Yorker and they used his name like 20 times, I was like, "wait a second, where do I know that name from?"
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Spoeank posted:If the massager doesn't work, my wife swears by a personal electric stim machine she got off amazon for like $30. That's a different fetish.
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axeil posted:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOYA2M2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If the new thing I got doesn't up my neck then I'm gonna get this, thanks man
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axeil posted:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOYA2M2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 My girlfriend got me one of these last month. Thing is great, and easily portable.
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