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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
https://twitter.com/CBCFletch/status/918509264674672640

God this loving election

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
I don’t know. Conservatives seem to think it’s a vote winner on the campaign trail and off, and they’re probably right. There’s a ton of Trump-style anger mixed with envy over union “entitlements” out there.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Jordan7hm posted:

It's not a vote winner, so probably decades or never.

If you're the most extreme option on one side of the political spectrum every move you make towards that extreme is just going to bleed votes away.

I used to think that about healthcare, but I think we are only an election or two away from someone promising privatizing healthcare. IMO the Liberals are pushing the overton window right by raising taxes, but not offering any new or improved social services along with it.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Holy gently caress. And this is stemming from being mad that the art board has artists on it? Oh no!!!

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

It's too bad that his racism and stupidity got in the way of making an otherwise-valid point: we have artists in Calgary, and in Alberta, and in Canada, that could benefit from the work. Our public art money should be preferentially awarded to local and Canadian artists, not some dude from New York that does something "First Nations inspired" and then gets chewed out (rightfully) by the actual First Nations people for appropriating the design of their burial mounds (that's a thing that actually happened, not a hypothetical, for people who might not be aware). I don't know what, if anything, that policy has to do with having artists on the panel, though.

Mind you, every time they support local artists, people bitch about that too (apparently the art from a local artist that was used on, if I'm not mistaken, the Louise Bridge was "too scary looking"). EDIT: And maybe if we want arts that honours the First Nations, we should pay a First Nations artist to do it, instead of some guy who read a book on indigenous art history.

The important takeaway is: gently caress Ward Sutherland.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 12, 2017

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Is "Johnny Jew" a thing people even say? Or was this one of those "Joey Jo-jo" names that went really badly on its way out of his mouth?

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011
Of course, Ward Sutherland's ward is in the same area as Rob Anders' old riding. He'll be re-elected in a walk.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Put me firmly in the "housing in Toronto is very hosed" bucket

Sister's 1400 sq ft semi-detached 3br/2bth with a nice back yard backing onto the humber river went up for sale Tuesday. It was bought in 2012 for 590k.

14 viewings on day one, an immediate bully offer followed by 5 more for immediate sale, no inspection.

Nine Hundred and Eighty loving Thousand Dollars. Almost 25% over asking price. IN A DAY For a semi-detached starter home.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

MA-Horus posted:

Put me firmly in the "housing in Toronto is very hosed" bucket

Sister's 1400 sq ft semi-detached 3br/2bth with a nice back yard backing onto the humber river went up for sale Tuesday. It was bought in 2012 for 590k.

14 viewings on day one, an immediate bully offer followed by 5 more for immediate sale, no inspection.

Nine Hundred and Eighty loving Thousand Dollars. Almost 25% over asking price. IN A DAY For a semi-detached starter home.

Here's the chaser: I think that's a reasonably good price for a house backing onto the Humber.

It must be far from the subway I'm guessing?


e: Check out this 2 bedroom bungalow for $899,000

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/18670852/46-WILDWOOD-CRES-Toronto-Ontario-M4L2K7-Woodbine-Corridor



What it doesn't say in the listing is that 10 feet from that fence are the VIA / GO train tracks. They go by about every 10-15 mins all day, not sure about at night.

Reince Penis fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Oct 12, 2017

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Sometimes with these things it's a bit arguable, but yeah he just straight up says johnny jew from new york. Wild.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Reince Penis posted:

Here's the chaser: I think that's a reasonably good price for a house backing onto the Humber.

It must be far from the subway I'm guessing?


It's about a 10 minute bus ride to Jane station. Just south of Dundas St.

Don't get me wrong it's a nice house just not a million loving dollars.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Old news though, I need the industry that Libs are going to signal with next election.

so you are totally thinking the liberals are a shoe in with their beautifully haired candidate for the next election.

Weed has legs to run before the libs announce they won’t hit the date next year and make WEED an election issue again to sway ALBERT an pot heads.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
If they move onto the legalization of meth and crack, I think they could even get rural Alberta on board, frankly.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Sep 9, 2022

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
So, in fact, Ward Sutherland is both a racist moron, and he has no point, instead of just being a racist moron. Good to know.

Out of curiosity, since I'm sure you have an idea: how would a non-Canadian artist go about proving prejudice in such a subjective process if it were merely an unwritten rule? And could you require something like indigenous participation if it were equally open to all indigenous people in the US and Mexico as well? Just curious, really.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Sep 9, 2022

mashed
Jul 27, 2004

Reince Penis posted:

Here's the chaser: I think that's a reasonably good price for a house backing onto the Humber.

It must be far from the subway I'm guessing?


e: Check out this 2 bedroom bungalow for $899,000

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/18670852/46-WILDWOOD-CRES-Toronto-Ontario-M4L2K7-Woodbine-Corridor



What it doesn't say in the listing is that 10 feet from that fence are the VIA / GO train tracks. They go by about every 10-15 mins all day, not sure about at night.

What scrubs they should have listed it as "close to transit".

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

DariusLikewise posted:

Like elimination, not just giving unions a hard time, but like actually eliminating them.

Not possible without the notwithstanding clause. Collective bargaining in the public sector is protected by the Charter thanks to Brad Wall.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

mashed_penguin posted:

What scrubs they should have listed it as "close to transit".

It actually is too though, it's right next to a streetcar line and about a 10 minute walk from the subway.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

mashed_penguin posted:

What scrubs they should have listed it as "close to transit".

More like close to a ten year regional express rail/electrification project that hasn't started yet.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Lol
https://twitter.com/cbcfletch/status/918558085861519361

TrueChaos
Nov 14, 2006




bunnyofdoom posted:

So, college teachers are on strike in Ontario now.

Arivia posted:

But midterms! And grad! ITS SO INCONVENIENT

Considering what I've read about the offers, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the union, as the offers appear better than other public sector ones that have wound up at arbitration. They're also screwing over people whose programs require a certain amount of lab time in order to get certified, and if you're thinking just extend the term, all of a sudden it's a lot more difficult to secure a summer job when you can't start for a week or two compared to the rest of the students from say a university.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Lmao this guy?



Yeah, sure buddy.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

TrueChaos posted:

Considering what I've read about the offers, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the union, as the offers appear better than other public sector ones that have wound up at arbitration. They're also screwing over people whose programs require a certain amount of lab time in order to get certified, and if you're thinking just extend the term, all of a sudden it's a lot more difficult to secure a summer job when you can't start for a week or two compared to the rest of the students from say a university.

But you're not in the union? so you don't know what the gently caress you're talking about is what you're saying.

e: To be less snarky, people don't take the decision to put their livelyhoods on the line lightly so maybe you should take a more global perspective.

Reince Penis fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Oct 12, 2017

SilverMike
Sep 17, 2007

TBD



Yeah that works better when you're not using a word starting with J directly before the disputed word. loving coward.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

TrueChaos posted:

Considering what I've read about the offers, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the union, as the offers appear better than other public sector ones that have wound up at arbitration. They're also screwing over people whose programs require a certain amount of lab time in order to get certified, and if you're thinking just extend the term, all of a sudden it's a lot more difficult to secure a summer job when you can't start for a week or two compared to the rest of the students from say a university.

Considering that the union’s issues are asking for full-time employment, academic freedom and longer contracts comparing them to other public sector contracts is a bit misleading.

Also yes if the colleges don’t want their students to have problems then they should treat their instructors well. This isn’t hard.

just another
Oct 16, 2009

these dead towns that make the maps wrong now
We wanted to promote local artists but they only wanted Xena Zoroastrian and Buford Buddhist from New York.

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

Arivia posted:

Considering that the union’s issues are asking for full-time employment, academic freedom and longer contracts comparing them to other public sector contracts is a bit misleading.

Also yes if the colleges don’t want their students to have problems then they should treat their instructors well. This isn’t hard.

The president of Mohawk College tweeted, almost immediately after the strike notice was given, that the strike was actually going to happen. Similar notices appearing on the other colleges' web sites, as though this is a done deal, sure as hell makes it look like the colleges have no desire at the moment to continue bargaining in good faith.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Arivia posted:

Also yes if the colleges don’t want their students to have problems then they should treat their instructors well. This isn’t hard.

That sentiment is nice and all but doesn't help the students one bit. If I got hosed out of graduating or a summer job because of a strike I'd be furious and have no sympathy for those striking.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

TrueChaos posted:

Considering what I've read about the offers, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the union, as the offers appear better than other public sector ones that have wound up at arbitration. They're also screwing over people whose programs require a certain amount of lab time in order to get certified, and if you're thinking just extend the term, all of a sudden it's a lot more difficult to secure a summer job when you can't start for a week or two compared to the rest of the students from say a university.

CLAM DOWN posted:

That sentiment is nice and all but doesn't help the students one bit. If I got hosed out of graduating or a summer job because of a strike I'd be furious and have no sympathy for those striking.

Support the workers you morons. What kind of fair weather socialists are you

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

CLAM DOWN posted:

That sentiment is nice and all but doesn't help the students one bit. If I got hosed out of graduating or a summer job because of a strike I'd be furious and have no sympathy for those striking.

So instructors should put your hypothetical summer job ahead of their very real full time employment?

:thunk:

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Risky Bisquick posted:

Support the workers you morons. What kind of fair weather socialists are you

Canada is filled to the brim with people who support unions right up until a union inconveniences them in the slightest way.

e: They're the same people who call themselves progressives but vote for the centre right Liberals strategically every time.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Reince Penis posted:

So instructors should put your hypothetical summer job ahead of their very real full time employment?

:thunk:

Don't be an idiot. When I was barely managing to scrape by on student loans and multiple part-time jobs, if I lost a summer job or wasn't able to graduate and had to stay an extra term or whatever because of a strike, of course I'm not loving going to support that strike. Puffing out my chest and going "unions rule capitalist pigs drool" isn't going to save me financially nor complete my education.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Reince Penis posted:

This thread is filled to the brim with people who support unions right up until a union inconveniences them in the slightest way.

FTFY

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Reince Penis posted:

Canada is filled to the brim with people who support unions right up until a union inconveniences them in the slightest way.

e: They're the same people who call themselves progressives but vote for the centre right Liberals strategically every time.

Solidarity when convenient isn't much of a rallying cry though.

CLAM DOWN posted:

Don't be an idiot. When I was barely managing to scrape by on student loans and multiple part-time jobs, if I lost a summer job or wasn't able to graduate and had to stay an extra term or whatever because of a strike, of course I'm not loving going to support that strike. Puffing out my chest and going "unions rule capitalist pigs drool" isn't going to save me financially nor complete my education.

So you don't really support unions, that's fine too. Just be clear about it.

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Oct 12, 2017

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

CLAM DOWN posted:

Don't be an idiot. When I was barely managing to scrape by on student loans and multiple part-time jobs, if I lost a summer job or wasn't able to graduate and had to stay an extra term or whatever because of a strike, of course I'm not loving going to support that strike. Puffing out my chest and going "unions rule capitalist pigs drool" isn't going to save me financially nor complete my education.

News flash: these workers are striking so they don't have to "barely manage to scrape by." Pull your loving head out of your rear end.

e: lol as I typed this I got an email saying a company I own a piece of made a big jump on the exchange today :toot: See, I can be a capitalist pig AND support labour rights.

Reince Penis fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Oct 12, 2017

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Reince Penis posted:

News flash: these workers are striking so they don't have to "barely manage to scrape by." Pull your loving head out of your rear end.

Clam Down isn't one of the workers, ergo, gently caress 'em.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




infernal machines posted:

So you don't really support unions, that's fine too. Just be clear about it.

infernal machines posted:

Clam Down isn't one of the workers, ergo, gently caress 'em.

I vote NDP, am a card carrying member of provincial and federal NDP, have been in a union multiples times in my life, been to multiple rallies in support of unions, and have been on job action myself, but tyvm for your telling me what my opinion is. You literally don't know a thing about me, not sure where you get off telling me all these things about me or my work history.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
So, I'm a student at algonq. This is literally my last semester, and I was on track to graduate in Dec.


I support this strike, and will try to buy the picket line coffee at least once if I can.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
CD, perhaps these guys have you looking for an alternative, maybe on the right?

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I vote NDP, am a card carrying member of provincial and federal NDP, have been in a union multiples times in my life, been to multiple rallies in support of unions, and have been on job action myself, but tyvm for your telling me what my opinion is. You literally don't know a thing about me, not sure where you get off telling me all these things about me or my work history.

I didn't say anything about your work history or your political affiliation, I said you don't support unions, which by your own admission you don't.

Being or having been a member of a union doesn't mean you support unions. You're putting your interests ahead of solidarity with your fellow workers, IDK what you want to call that.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

CD, perhaps these guys have you looking for an alternative, maybe on the right?

It'll be a reverse PT6A

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