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AccountingNightmare
Oct 2, 2006

NOT ENOUGH RED ORBS ARGH

I love how he rates keep/fort explosions out of 10. And has about 8 different variations of it, so you never know which rating he's going to give.

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Sensual Simian
Jun 7, 2004

summer jorts
Holy poo poo Ive been so lucky with the hero sales over the past few months. Only Gul'dan, Malthael, Nova and my baby boy Junkrat left to purchase.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

AccountingNightmare posted:

I love how he rates keep/fort explosions out of 10. And has about 8 different variations of it, so you never know which rating he's going to give.

One of them is 6.5, of course that meme will never die

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Sensual Simian posted:

Holy poo poo Ive been so lucky with the hero sales over the past few months. Only Gul'dan, Malthael, Nova and my baby boy Junkrat left to purchase.

Oh hey, same here, minus Nova.

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Finally being able to tell team that x is missing . This is going to be so useful

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Seebach posted:

Finally being able to tell team that x is missing . This is going to be so useful

Having played the ton of Dota 2 I have where it's been a thing for ages, I've always been kind of surprised Blizzard didn't yank that feature sooner, really every game in the genre should because it's so useful.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Junkrat might replace Gazlowe for me as my standard announcer.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Junkrat is a specialist, but it's pretty degenerate :negative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWoywGLPrU&t=861s

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
Good thing he'll run out of mana pretty quick if he is spamming waveclear.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Toshimo posted:

Good thing he'll run out of mana pretty quick if he is spamming waveclear.

Yeah, I don't really get why they made him manaless either.

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



BrianBoitano posted:

Junkrat is a specialist, but it's pretty degenerate :negative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWoywGLPrU&t=861s

"quite frankly disgusting" yep

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
The whole way Junkrat is agreed to be played now with the 2 second concussion mine CD talent seems so cancerous and dumb (especially since it replaces your mount essentially as well), but without it he's really not that good. I wonder if he gets some bigger changes shortly after the patch, especially since they announced this patch is going to be the Blizzcon build for championships.

In that case, they better drat well make sure it's not a buggy mess like the last few as well.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

They'll play on the Junkrat patch, but he won't be available.

https://twitter.com/HeroesEsports/status/917900296696692736

Trade Chat Troll
Jan 22, 2010
I binged on The One True KT in QM last night, went from being terrible/not finishing the quest to multiple Top Hero+Siege damage games by the time I got to level 7. Free Hero Rotation working as intended, 10k gold well-spent. :mmmhmm:

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Trade Chat Troll posted:

I binged on The One True KT in QM last night, went from being terrible/not finishing the quest to multiple Top Hero+Siege damage games by the time I got to level 7. Free Hero Rotation working as intended, 10k gold well-spent. :mmmhmm:

KT is a monster once you get good at his combo but he also is easily countered by heroes with even the slightest dive/mobility. He can have a lot of QM games where he just can't do anything safely but he'll also have games where he's deleting people left and right. And also 95% of QM players probably don't even know what his combo is and will do 10k hero damage by the end of the game.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

Mierenneuker posted:

They'll play on the Junkrat patch, but he won't be available.

https://twitter.com/HeroesEsports/status/917900296696692736

This is how you know that a character is hideously, disgustingly broken, when they get banned from competitive before they even get released to live.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Shadowlyger posted:

This is how you know that a character is hideously, disgustingly broken, when they get banned from competitive before they even get released to live.

So ... every hero released since they made the change to playing HGC on the same patch as live? The banning has nothing to do with how strong the hero is.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
They did the same thing with Samuro last year drama queen...

Ok that doesn't actually disprove your point but I think this is just something they'll always do for blizzcon.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Shadowlyger posted:

This is how you know that a character is hideously, disgustingly broken, when they get banned from competitive before they even get released to live.

They could have another launch Lunara on their hands and the players would still not be conformable with adding a new character right before the start of the biggest HotS esports event. It's quite common that new heroes are not available for the first two-three weeks, it was that way during the entirety of the Global Championships (the leagues that Blizzard runs).

e;f,b

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

No Wave posted:

They did the same thing with Samuro last year drama queen...

Ok that doesn't actually disprove your point but I think this is just something they'll always do for blizzcon.

Also he's only banned because the community demanded it, and that was because there wasn't enough time to really practice the character. It has nothing to do with how strong the character is.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!
HGC rules are that a hero is not allowed to be played until two weeks after release. They followed this rule for Ana but decided it wouldn't apply to Junkrat because reasons.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

In that video the streamer's team has a 3 level advantage though. Plus the enemy team doesn't try to mount a proper gank as a response. (Not that an Ana/Johanna/Zuljin/Probius gank is super scary if you're not asleep at the wheel but still) The game already has some very good dual laners that don't break things like Xul, Leoric, Azmo ...

Granted, we can probably expect a nerf to his mobility which seems a bit too much but I don't see how he is degenerate beyond that. Hammer has some dumb cheesy strats as well with her BFG/Orbital cannon at 20 and she hardly warps the meta.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED

Mierenneuker posted:

They'll play on the Junkrat patch, but he won't be available.

https://twitter.com/HeroesEsports/status/917900296696692736

Ah, didn't see that announcement after the first one. I don't think he's really OP or anything at all, I just think he's cheesy as hell with the 13 talent and his rocket ult and the 20 upgrade


EDIT: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21106217/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-patch-notes-october-11-2017-10-11-2017 Balance changes out early

Midnightghoul fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 11, 2017

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Patch TL;DR:

Everything got in except for Junkrat and the two Reworks (Zul'jin and Muradin).

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin

I'd be shocked if Ripper Air goes live as is. That's most likely the first thing to get nerfed.

Also Junkrat has two abilities with extremely long cooldowns, so mana was likely never an issue for him to begin with. If he wasn't manaless you probably wouldn't notice.

Lawdog69
Nov 2, 2010
I'm torn because part of me thinks Junkrat looks fun as gently caress to play but another part of me thinks he looks miserable to play against.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

Sassy Sasquatch posted:

In that video the streamer's team has a 3 level advantage though. Plus the enemy team doesn't try to mount a proper gank as a response. (Not that an Ana/Johanna/Zuljin/Probius gank is super scary if you're not asleep at the wheel but still) The game already has some very good dual laners that don't break things like Xul, Leoric, Azmo ...

Granted, we can probably expect a nerf to his mobility which seems a bit too much but I don't see how he is degenerate beyond that. Hammer has some dumb cheesy strats as well with her BFG/Orbital cannon at 20 and she hardly warps the meta.

Thing is all of those split pushers are about as mobile as a car with two wheels. Junkrat has a get out of jail free card with mine jumping and his trap grants vision, plus no mana either.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



DO play with tcjimbo? Can't be bothered to figure out HD uploads to youtube, sorry:

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/ColorlessBoringKitty

same thing, youtube version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-oWM5CGwc

Believe it or not, the opponent was favored, around Plat 4. But Twin Blades Varian gonna Twin Blades.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
I was gonna say, it's Two Blades Varian. Not exactly rocket science.

Sensual Simian
Jun 7, 2004

summer jorts

Orange Crush Rush posted:

a car with two wheels.

so, a motorcycle?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Sensual Simian posted:

so, a motorcycle?

Depends on which two wheels you discard !

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZjvIfk_Oug

Pretty neat. Hope they continue.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Four Illidans is totally possible in Brawl, though.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Illidan only.
No items.
Final Destination.

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Still hoping for Maiev someday. Her va went through throat surgery the month before last or so.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Are real long HL queues normal? Like it's really hard for me to get into an HL game, usually goes 300 sec+ until i give up and do qm/ud.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Are real long HL queues normal? Like it's really hard for me to get into an HL game, usually goes 300 sec+ until i give up and do qm/ud.

Just depends. I've had it take upwards of five minutes but normally it's quicker than that. If you're trying to queue with 2 people it takes forever though.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



appropriatemetaphor posted:

Are real long HL queues normal? Like it's really hard for me to get into an HL game, usually goes 300 sec+ until i give up and do qm/ud.

Could be confirmation bias, but sometimes it seems bugged and requeuing fixes it.

Also highly dependent on time of day and your rank. If you're diamond or above you've got fewer peers to match with. For single queue HL I only get 300 seconds from about 4 AM until 9 AM, 200 seconds until 11 AM.

The other oddity was when I started a smurf (back before 2.0) and I played all AI games until I qualified for HL to see where it'd seed me. Queues took forever in that case.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Power Bottom posted:

Four Illidans is totally possible in Brawl, though.

what happens if two illidans YOU ARE NOT PREPARED each other at the same time :thunk:

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Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



They will damage each other right in the middle (no stun)

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