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lokipunk posted:Primalled satyr, wraithbained pureblood. I'm an idiot. Hah, it happens. Of course, even heavies that don't hit that hard can put a dent in Cryx 'jacks.
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To be fair, just about anything can put a dent in Cryx jacks.
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Blindwater week 2 went up. Jaga Jaga's feat took a big hit, can't hit the same target more than once now. Everything else got more buffs, Dracodile now charges large + huge based for free, instead of warriors which is cool.
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I still don't get what's going on with the swamp horror, and I'm bummed to lose the ability to give Nyss tough from the witch doctor, but otherwise CID seems to be moving in a good direction.
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Longchops lost bushwhack and sniper but got repo 3, rat 7, and take down but for his gun! 
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I've now painted at least one of every warbeast for Trolls. Hooray?  
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Bringing this list to the shop Sunday, I wanna see how it goes. Khador Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Armored Korps (Irusk 1) Kommandant Irusk [+27] - Conquest [37] Greylord Forge Seer [4] Man-O-War Drakhun [9] Man-O-War Kovnik [0(5)] Battle Mechaniks (max) [5] Man-O-War Bombardiers (max) [16] Man-O-War Demolition Corps (max) [15] Man-O-War Shocktroopers (max) [16] - Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer [0(4)] Might do irusk2 instead, not sure. I like inhospitable ground and the feat. Plus superiority making conquest speed 6 mat 8 doesn't hurt.
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Looks legit to me. Dunno which one of those is a better fit but my gut says Irusk 2. Let us know how it goes.
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Irusk2's FFE is nice but there's a guy I know might be trying out gravediggers so relying on blast damage won't get me far. I've got 60 points of manowar so I can add a tanker solo or another kovnik when I pick one up. I'd like to get that bombardier solo they mentioned. My thought is irusk1 gets me pathfinder without paying for a solo, and inhospitable ground is great control against a lot of the armies I fight to keep my conquest safe a bit longer.
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OTOH, Battle Lust on Shocktroopers is nice.
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Iceclaw posted:OTOH, Battle Lust on Shocktroopers is nice. Yeah but both irusks have that.
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Do they? Somehow I recalled only I2 having it. Oh well.
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2-1 at local event today. That new cataphact theme is nasty. I couldn't kill much of anything with dark host. Fortunately my opponent only killed riders with his beasts and guns though. Ended up letting him clock himself. Last game my opponent spent a huge chunk of clock killing a bunch of my revenants and failing an admittedly Longshot lillith2 assassination run on denny1. She responded by clearing a zone almost by herself (little bit of help from a hellslinger and some wraith engine dark shroud application) and jamming the other zone with tons of dudes. Guy tilted hard and clocked it back to me with 30 seconds left so I took the remaining 40 minutes on my clock to kill all of his stuff for destruction points. Lost a game to a deep dig shade1 assassination. I knew it was possible but I didn't think he would kill ALL of that stuff to clear a path. I feel dumb that I had no reason to be that far up and not clogged with banes. I had engineered a line onto wrongeye with a Stalker and popped him super early. Big turnout for our local store but about half of the round one loses dropped. Thanks for your :tenbux: I guess.
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We did a drunken 4 person free for all today with King of the Hill scenario and modified rules. Minions, Convergence, Menoth and Trolls were represented, with Convergence winning 3-0-0-0. We had a blast! Especially since we decided to do a I go you go rule change. It made deployment and activations that much more important.
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I can understand dropping during a Con to do other events, but a local steamroller? The whole concept is frowned upon in germany, I've had a single drop the whole year.
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Yeah it wouldnt' fly around here - I guess you get it where there's more of an influence from Magic players into the tournament scene?
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It's common for people here in Austin to drop out in the third round, where it's viewed as no longer having much impact on the event as a whole. Also, here's my arm-swapped road hog.
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Not an open fist. Disallowed. 
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I'm glad that someone else is enough of a stickler to catch that!
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counterspin posted:I'm glad that someone else is enough of a stickler to catch that! Slap a thumb on that bad boy and call it good.
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Alternatively, model some tiny fingers under it and let the piston be the thumb.
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My manowar list fought sloan gravediggers. 2 hunters, 2 chargers, 2 units of trenchers, a bunch of commandos, various trencher solos By the end of the game he pumped 90 damage into my conquest but 6 mechaniks restoring d3+1 really did some work, repairing 40 points over tyre game until I moved the conquest out to charge and they got shot. It was the pit 2, I quickly jammed all my manowar into zones and he couldn't really do much about it but at the same time I couldn't clear out that many trenchers with them immune to my blasts. He underestimated how mobile a conquest with superiority is and turn 3 I charged into a group of lights and murderized them which pretty much chased out the left flank, demo corps and conquest were able to kill off the infantry there while bombardiers killed his objective. He sent a unit of commandos at the right rectangle to kill my objective but I left them alone since they couldn't hold the zone His trenchers made lots of tough checks so the central zone was basically stalemated until the end of the game with shock troopers killing 1 or 2 a turn and the trenchers doing literally nothing to them. He conceded turn 6 because though sloan would've finished off the conquest that turn I was ahead by a point or two and he had no realistic way to score anywhere with manowar all over the place contesting. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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counterspin posted:It's common for people here in Austin to drop out in the third round, where it's viewed as no longer having much impact on the event as a whole. Also, here's my arm-swapped road hog. That's a cool piggy! I've got a war hog with hammers from a cygnar jack, I don't know if they are hammersmith hammers or ironclad hammers. Pigs fit the scavenged / mismatched aesthetic nicely! I reserve the right to ignore anyone who complains that pig axes and cygnar hammers have slightly different power.
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We had like 4 players drop after round one and another 2-3 after round 2. Really sank the pool of players. At this point I'm just trying to figure out how the double wraith engine dark host build works. I've played it like 6 times and it never feels like I am doing it right. Always commit the engines too poorly and lack the volume of attacks where i need them. I may also not be very good.
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I've just come into a Magnus the traitor battle box, and was thinking of building a list, but I'm really struggling, just because under irregulars there are so many options! I'm currently looking at this: War Room Army Mercenary - Magnus Theme: The Irregulars 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Magnus the Traitor - WJ: +30 - Nomad - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Renegade - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Renegade - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) Kell Bailoch - PC: 0 Rutger Shaw, Professional Adventurer - PC: 0 - Mangler - PC: 15 Thor Steinhammer - PC: 0 - Ghordson Basher - PC: 9 Gorman Di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist - PC: 0 Captain Sam MacHorne & the Devil Dogs - MacHorne & 9 Grunts: 18 - Freebooter - PC: 9 Alexia Ciannor & the Risen - Alexia & 9 Risen Grunts: 10 - Thrall Warrior Horgenhold Artillery Corps - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 6 Tactical Arcanist Corps - Leader & 2 Grunts: 7 THEME: The Irregulars --- GENERATED : 10/09/2017 16:09:42 BUILD ID : 2050.17-09-10 The idea being it's got ranged game, and then there's a ton of knockdown effects to mitigate low mat and capitalise on the flank from theme. (And trash on the free booter). I'm not sure that flank works with slams, but the Risen do double duty on running to help with throwaway flank, and also potentially as things to be slammed into for extra dice. The devil dogs I only chose because I thought they still had trash, but actually they still have more knock down, plus more warm bodies for flank bonus. I think knocking something down them charging it with Rutger shaw and then his mangler should be able to kill anything, if I can ever pull it off. Its kind of the first time I've built a list around the list itself and kind of ignored the caster, but actually he's got knockdown / stationary effects himself, and his feat means I can potentially get him in the fray without much risk? Is this awful? I don't currently own the devil dogs or freebooter, so would like to know what you think before I pull the trigger.
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neonchameleon posted:CID just made Lynys & Edrea ... good? And guidance is changing from friendly faction. Yeah I can actually see taking them now.
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!Klams posted:I've just come into a Magnus the traitor battle box, and was thinking of building a list, but I'm really struggling, just because under irregulars there are so many options! I'm currently looking at this: This is interesting. I've taken a break from Warmachine while it got its themes sorted out and was looking of getting my Mercs back out. 40k has been fun but I wanna see some rockin robot action. I like this list. As pMagnus with Irregulars seems like a good place to start. Hell, I started Warmachine with him so I might as well jump back in with him. I think Magnus really wants 4 jacks though, 2 Nomads and 2 Renegades is a good start as he really likes a nice, meaty battlegroup for both his feat and to abuse Resourceful. One Nomad getting Iron Aggression and the other getting Death Ward is a nice combo. Lets you set up that 1-2 Combo that works so well for me. I love the Devil Dogs but damned if I don't think they come up short a lot of the time. They really need the Piper for tough and pathfinder to just survive as they will fold under light fire. I think the Flank Bonus makes the Freebooter interesting. I've run a Freebooter with them before (hell I even painted one to match their eclectic color scheme) but it always comes up short. The new Jack Marshall rules means I should try it again but I usually find a ranged jack better. I've done well with a Mariner jack and a Minimum unit to escort it up the board. Rovers are great for Jack Marshal as well just due to the three initials. That said I think the Devil Dogs are more of a fun unit than a "good" choice. They usually die quickly and their abilities are pretty weak. I love them from a fluff standpoint and they were fun to paint but I would keep that in mind before pulling the trigger so to speak. The Freebooter tends to be "ehh" as well. Getting a knockdown from a Renegade Rocket is great but it never seems to line up and you end up paying for something that tends to be listed as "Not a Nomad". I always want it to be better than it is. Of course, your mileage may vary. Speaking of, I always take Rutger Shaw and Taryn di Rossi as a pair. Taryn gives out Shadowfire which can sometimes gift-wrap a game for you. Shadowfire a pair of blockers and just fire a pair of Renegade rockets into a Caster's face. The Mariner does well here as I love that range. I really like the Rover as a Jack Marshall'd jack. The three initials lets you really get work out of the Order despite not having focus and its meaty enough to survive to long enough. The Mangler is cool too though. The Tactical Arcanist Corps was my bread and butter in Mk2 when they came out but I've not been hot on them since Mk3. I think the new Siege Crawler makes them good again but otherwise, ehh. The Smoke clouds are neat and but they are too slow for pMagnus who tends to use his feat to get the jump. I'd probably swap them out for something. I dig the Risen and think Steinhammer with a Basher is super neato. I'm still building my list with a more of a Steelhead emphasis for free points but I do think you are on to something. I'm totally going to find a place for Steinhammer with a Basher. Give it a go and let me know what you think. I really love the Mercenary Faction as there is always another way, another style to try. For what its worth, here is my first thoughts about Irregulars and I've been drinking... https://conflictchamber.com/#c6201b_-0J4-5Z5Z5F5F7z7B9r7_9j9o6iiB62 Mercenary Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Irregulars (Magnus 1) Magnus the Traitor [+30] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] - Renegade [10] - Renegade [10] Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord [0(4)] Rutger Shaw, Professional Adventurer [0(4)] - Rover [15] Taryn di la Rovissi, Llaelese Gun Mage [0(5)] Thor Steinhammer [0(4)] - Ghordson Basher [9] Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10] Steelhead Halberdiers (max) [11] Steelhead Heavy Cavalry (max) [18]
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neonchameleon posted:CID just made Lynys & Edrea ... good? And guidance is changing from friendly faction. I'm not in CID, if you don't mind, what was changed? I've used them before for 'choose column' on the commodore cannon, and they could also be used in cygnar for the same thing on shooting casters like Caine or Kara, or on weapon crews that shoot heavies, if cygnar has any. Would be ok on horgenhold mortars in mercs. Funny how despite them being in minions, there aren't any minion solos that can really use choose column who don't already have something similar like Alten Ashley.
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Got 2 more Slaughterfleet games in under Gaspy3. Both games kind of went the same way with my opponent shredding most of my army and then gaspy3 walks up and assassinates their caster with a huge stack of focus. I don't think it is so much slaughterfleet as it is Gaspy3 is supergood. Killed Ashlynn (not on feat turn) and Garreth. Gang fighter is cool but doesn't make up for the infantry backbone being terrible. Although Gerlak did pac man his way through a unit of gunmages. In my first game's opponents defense we agreed we would play dumb and bad things. Lianese Resistance seems kind of good? I think I'm off my slaughterfleet bullshit until Cryx Christmas and my other pirates come out. I still think Scourge will be better with Skarre3. lokipunk fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Elias Gade is out and he does not totally suck, surprisingly Exemplar Errant Solo 5 points SPD 5 MAT/RAT 7 Def 12 Arm 16 AD, Assault, Pathfinder 2 Blessed Magical Pow 10 Crossbows 2 Weapon Master P+S 9 Bayonets Call To Sacrifice within 5 inches (the same rule the errants have with the range the Errant Seneschal has) Hands out Pathfinder to Errants within 9 inches Prey True Sight
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The Everblight solo is also pretty amazeballs. I think he'll find a place in my Kryssa Children of the Dragon list (...I think. Need to double check on whether he's permitted, just going off a Facebook comment).
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Whole bunch of CiD buffs Last minute CID changes! Ambushers 8/13 Spiny growth and counter blast cost 1 Possse reroll works against all models and went down to 10/16 Dracodile down a point Witch doctor hands out ghostly to non-warlock/warcaster warrior model Barny 2 execration goes to 2 cost and cmd (now 10) but effects everyone and gains steady Cauldron gets pathfinder Jaga can boost feat now And lynus and edrea can work for both pact themes
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Whole bunch of CiD buffs The Witch Doctor's ghostly is any friendly faction model, they've updated the CID document. Just a goof in their database. Obviously that's vastly better.
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counterspin posted:Spiny growth and counterblast changes explicitly apply to models in other factions. Other factions benefit too but that can't be helped . MCPeePants posted:The Witch Doctor's ghostly is any friendly faction model, they've updated the CID document. Just a goof in their database. Obviously that's vastly better. Nice! That means he will finally be seeing the table. I tried him out once and just felt useless on the board.
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Counterblast costing one is neat, you can have a gun boar fire his cannon, boost to hit and boost damage, apply counterblast, and get yet another shot with targ! Also cute to save a point for last-ditch self defense on arkadius, or spiny on any of the close range gators.
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Captainicus posted:I'm not in CID, if you don't mind, what was changed? Lynus & Edrea? His first aid can now heal any living model (no friendly faction limit) and his applied knowledge doesn't have to be used on warrior models (as of the latest update). Her arcane bolt was replaced by a zap with a 4" AoE (POW 12 I think) that as well as blowing up light infantry (and she has true sight of course) removes any clouds it touches. And yes, POW 6 blast damage isn't amazing - but Magic Ability 7 and Truesight makes her scary for lightly armoured stealth units like Bloodrunners or Daughters of the Flame - and truesight allows her to find targets behind enemy cloudwalls so she can blow them away.
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