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neonchameleon
Nov 14, 2012



Captainicus posted:

That is pretty neat. I'm not sure when you would use applied knowledge on a non-warrior, as generally you want your warbeast / warjack to destroy your enemy, not hamper them but leave them alive, good for shooting heavies though, I suppose! Could also be very useful on budget heavies or against armor stacking though. Good stuff.

When you're facing a warjack with a shield is the obvious one. Take the shield out in the first swing or two and finishing it off becomes a whole lot easier. There's also sniping out the arc node from bonejacks of course as it only takes 20 damage before ARM to column 4; give it to a charger and you can pretty reliably take the arc node off two bonejacks in a turn.

Also there's the Bart, Bucaneer (or other set-up piece), hot-shotted Galleon combo. A melee heavy takes four boosted POW 13s from the gunports all to column 2 - which is almost certainly enough to wreck its movement system and leave it flailing. Then the Galleon uses its focus to do its normal drag and beat up trick on a second heavy.

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!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad
Had a great game today with Exulon Thexus vs Grymkin - The dreamer. The new theme is legit awesome, having an extra unit of overlords essentially for free is HUGE, they do so much work. It was that scenario where you have one circle in the middle and two zones either side, both with objectives. I went first, and basically just played the scenario game with my drudges, got a surprising ambush off killing skin and moans early, (which also held him back from contesting well) and sprayed the zone clear on the other side with overlords. Jamming it all up with drudges meant my wreckers could hang back and basically counter-threat anything making an attempt on my caster, or anything too threatening getting into either zone. The game was entirely won, I was sitting on 4 points, and he couldn't have contested with very much at all and I had two full loaded wreckers within charge range of what little he could get into a zone, so I thought I'd go for the fun play (NEVER AGAIN) and try and win that turn by dominating. All I needed to do was kill a death-knell with a fully loaded, instigated wrecker. I was well beyond odds on, needing 5's to hit and then dice-1 for damage. With 5 attacks, that's around 30 damage (not even including the free charge dice), so 8 over. Instead what happened was I did it I think, 6 damage? So then I needed to charge it with my other wrecker, which obviously did the remaining 16 (or however much) on the first charge hit, lol. 3 Weaponmaster dwarve charges were not enough to put the Cage Rager in the ground, (only other contesting piece) so on my opponents turn he did some fandangling and got the Cage Rager next to Thexus. (Any warbeast next to a Cephalyx caster is GG).

It was tilting, because its the 3rd game in a row where a wrecker has just completely failed to do anything at all despite buffs. In a previous game a similar situation arose where I neeeeded to kill a beast, that I was hitting on 4's and killing on anything buts, and didn't kill him. In retrospect I should have boosted the to-hit roll, but I got 'greedy' wanting to hold onto focus so that I could beat back into something tougher behind him and got a bit tunnel visioned on that plan.

But, you know, 'fail better'. What I've got to take from this is to ABSOLUTELY deny any beast being next to Thexus (or Cyphon) AT ANY cost. Kill box? Don't give a poo poo take your free points. Out of range to allocate focus to monstrosities? gently caress it, punch them. Not going to get a relevant feat off? I don't have a feat, deal with it. I kind of have to play almost as if having my caster be able to do stuff is like a happy bonus that might sometimes come up, but generally doesn't. It's what happens in every single Cephalyx battle report I've seen, I should know better by now.

!Klams fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Oct 13, 2017

Excelsiortothemax
Sep 9, 2006
Poking at Mercs again

Theme: Llaelese Resistance
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Ashlynn d'Elyse - WJ: +29
- Mangler - PC: 15 (BG Points Used: 15)
- Rover - PC: 15 (BG Points Used: 14)
- Nomad - PC: 11

Anastasia di Bray - PC: 3
Gastone Crosse - PC: 4
- Mule - PC: 15
Major Harrison Gibbs - PC: 0
Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord - PC: 0
Gobber Tinker - PC: 2

Thorn Gun Mages - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Thorn Gun Mages - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Flame Bringers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 17
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4

Spd 11 Def 18 vs Shooting & Magic Flame Bringers seems real good.

Everyone else just tries to catch up and shoot what makes it past their jamming.

Pairing it with:

Theme: The Irregulars
4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Captain Bartolo Montador - WJ: +26
- Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 0
- Galleon - PC: 39 (BG Points Used: 26)
- Galleon - PC: 39

Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - PC: 0
Master Gunner Dougal MacNaile - PC: 0
Ragman - PC: 0

The Commodore Cannon & Crew - Commodore & 3 Crewmen: 7
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8
Press Gangers - Lass & 5 Grunts: 8

Lynus & Edrea were the start of this list but they got dropped for Aiyana and Holt.

I was also told to put Lord Rockbottom in for the Cannon but I can't really see giving up any other model.

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer
Wherein I continue with the dregs of my Trollblood painting queue:



Luebbi
Jul 28, 2000
Hosting my first 24 man team tournament today. Preparations have been hell. I ordered custom tokens as prizes, they arrived only hours before the tournament... but at least they did arrive. One of the mats I ordered was butt-ugly, and when I returned it the package got lost for a couple days, only to arrive back at my doorstep. Worst of all - two weeks before, I started contacting one of the guys who hosts a large Team Tournament around here and asked him for his swank Scoresheets, which he agreed to make for me, then didn't deliver. I now got up at 6am after going to bed at 2 to make those drat sheets myself.

I'm tired, cranky and looking forward to two hours of setting up tables. And one guy who never hosted an event before has the gall to critizise me for a minor loving thing (I pre-ordered most of the food and he hadn't bothered to put in his order, which is now my fault... even though I explained that I would order whatever hasn't been preordered on the day by phone).

Still, going to be awesome, I haven't had a single team drop out! Team Tournaments are the best.

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.
Had a mini steamroller yesterday and did fairly bad going 1-2.

The win was fairly epic though. Nemo 3 into one of the Doomshapers running all the Beasts. Top of 2 I force Hammered an Earthborn troll(he hadn't put his animus up) over his entire stone unit and Doomshaper, knocking out the stone aura and leaving Doomie knocked down on no camp in range of Dynamo, Thunderhead and 2 Storm Striders. I Feated and only needed Dynamo to kill him.

The other 2 games were just terrible and I made bad decisions leading to fairly trivial wins for my opponents.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Today i killed snapjaw, brine, and skarath all in the same turn by sniping out their warlocks

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

These battle reports are pretty rad.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxozTU3f7qnhdG0RCemnjjA

counterspin
Apr 2, 2010

Jimmy Hats posted:

Today i killed snapjaw, brine, and skarath all in the same turn by sniping out their warlocks
Yeah, this is why Valkyries are in WWFF.

Excelsiortothemax
Sep 9, 2006
I went 1-3 at a steamroller in Calgary. Played Carver in Thornfall and Rask in WWFF.

I made some bad calls and some poor dice led me to where I was. Thankfully since people dropped I ended up getting $25 in prize money for being last place, so my pride salved with cash.

Also READ YOUR CARDS!

I honestly had no idea that Skarath and Snapjaw both had bonds and that would have helped immensely.

lokipunk
Jan 16, 2007
SNAPJAW HAS A BOND?

For content: took Tim Banky's Aiakos2 build for a spin. That Kharbdys really has gross assassination potential. The whole list is set up to deliver and he puts a hurting on at strange angles. No scenerio presence at all, but who needs it when Dr. Tickles comes roaring in from some ungodly distance away. It brings 3 white squalls to clear a path and, ideally, knock down the opposing warnoun.

War Room Army

Cryx - banky aiakos2 black ondustry

Theme: Black Industries
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Captain Aiakos - WJ: +29
- The Withershadow Combine - Maelovus, Admonia & Tremulus: 9
- Deathjack - PC: 23 (Battlegroup Points Used: 23)
- Kharybdis - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Seether - PC: 13
- Seether - PC: 13
- Seether - PC: 13
- Nightwretch - PC: 0
- Nightwretch - PC: 0

Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Machine Wraith - PC: 2


THEME: Black Industries

Played it into my regular Wyrmwood opponent who was trying a cid warden bones build. Stranglehold is pretty neutered when it is up against really high arm. It got some work done but I managed to blunder into an amazing vector with feat and pathfinder on kribs. If it had failed I had a trampling Deathjack to hit cleanup. Turns out clearing a tiny path for 4" reach melee weapons is super easy with a bunch of on demand throws.

lokipunk fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Oct 17, 2017

Excelsiortothemax
Sep 9, 2006
RFP living and heal d3 himself or Wrongeye.

Skarath is additional die on attack against enemies in Dahlia's control range.

lokipunk
Jan 16, 2007

Excelsiortothemax posted:

RFP living and heal d3 himself or Wrongeye.

Skarath is additional die on attack against enemies in Dahlia's control range.

Yeah, I just checked. I can't think of a time when it would have made the difference for me, but I also haven't played with them too much since themes hit.

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.
This is terrifying. Gaspy 1 Satyxis theme. That's not all of them either, there is a unit in ambush too.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:

lokipunk posted:

Yeah, I just checked. I can't think of a time when it would have made the difference for me, but I also haven't played with them too much since themes hit.

Critical consume :getin:

MCPeePants
Feb 25, 2013
Has anyone had their hands on the company of iron cards? Mostly I'm curious about the commander upgrades. I've seen mission specialist, which seems to help you accomplish objectives, and frontline commander for unyielding.

Luebbi
Jul 28, 2000

Friendly Fire posted:

This is terrifying. Gaspy 1 Satyxis theme. That's not all of them either, there is a unit in ambush too.



Judging by the tiny picture, at least the army looked amazing, looks like they're all painted and based. How'd it go?

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.

Luebbi posted:

Judging by the tiny picture, at least the army looked amazing, looks like they're all painted and based. How'd it go?

Sorry about the pic size, I grabbed it off facebook. The army isn't mine, it's Aaron Wale's and predictably he won handily.

Ambushing Blood Witches are amazing by the way, I've seen him counter ambush another unit, they each kill a model and go incorporeal making them fairly safe and very annoying to deal with

lokipunk
Jan 16, 2007
Blood Witches have been pretty ok since the gang fix. They want support from debuffs but between their blood razor attacks, gang, native stealth, and crit kd they can serve a lot of utility. Pathfinder, ambush, and debuffs really dial them up. I have wiped entire units off the table with death strikes. They were critically overshadowed by the raiders, but they are incredibly important roleplayers in the scourge list.

It still probably needs a few more releases but I don't have many games with it yet.

lokipunk fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Oct 18, 2017

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

lokipunk posted:

Blood Witches have been pretty ok since the gang fix. They want support from debuffs but between their blood razor attacks, gang, native stealth, and crit kd they can serve a lot of utility. Pathfinder, ambush, and debuffs really dial them up. I have wiped entire units off the table with death strikes. They were critically overshadowed by the raiders, but they are incredibly important roleplayers in the scourge list.

It still probably needs a few more releases but I don't have many games with it yet.

What was the gang fix?

rkajdi
Sep 11, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

!Klams posted:

What was the gang fix?

When gang & flank were changed to work against knocked down/stationary models.

Excelsiortothemax
Sep 9, 2006
Troll update live you beautiful nerds;

http://privateerpress.com/october-2017-dynamic-update-developers-notes

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
Its all so beautiful.

Trash an full knock down on hit on B2. Arm 22 when hurt an stone its all I could have asked for.

Edit: An Jannisa can just place the drat hill finally.

For_Great_Justice fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 18, 2017

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer
I am so excited you guys. :getin: :catdrugs: :frogsiren:

Edit:

https://conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0a4N9DiRjq6G6G6M0o0o0l0miTbKiT

Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Band of Heroes

(Madrak 1) Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain [+29]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [14]
- Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)]
Fell Caller Hero [0(5)]
Fell Caller Hero [0(5)]
Stone Scribe Chronicler [4]
Kriel Warriors (max) [11]
Kriel Warriors (max) [11]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
- Skaldi Bonehammer [5]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]

Def16 champs (against shooting and melee) with no KD seems good, y/n?

Fyrbrand fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Oct 18, 2017

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

Fyrbrand posted:

I am so excited you guys. :getin: :catdrugs: :frogsiren:

Edit:

https://conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0a4N9DiRjq6G6G6M0o0o0l0miTbKiT

Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Band of Heroes

(Madrak 1) Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain [+29]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [14]
- Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)]
Fell Caller Hero [0(5)]
Fell Caller Hero [0(5)]
Stone Scribe Chronicler [4]
Kriel Warriors (max) [11]
Kriel Warriors (max) [11]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
- Skaldi Bonehammer [5]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]

Def16 champs (against shooting and melee) with no KD seems good, y/n?

It might be overkill, but I really want to find Wrongeye in this nonsense. Def16 no KD Champs with Starcrossed seems super obnoxious

War Room Army

Trollblood - New Army

Theme: Band of Heroes
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain - WB: +29
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)

Wrong Eye - Wrong Eye & Snapjaw: 17
- Snapjaw
Stone Scribe Chronicler - PC: 4
Trollkin Champion Hero - PC: 5
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 5

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 0
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16


THEME: Band of Heroes
---

GENERATED : 10/18/2017 12:40:08
BUILD ID : 2050.17-09-10

lokipunk
Jan 16, 2007

rkajdi posted:

When gang & flank were changed to work against knocked down/stationary models.

Know something has gone wrong when you are specifically hoping NOT to crit.

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
Madrak 1 with wrong eye is super legit having played it before.

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer

CaptCommy posted:

It might be overkill, but I really want to find Wrongeye in this nonsense. Def16 no KD Champs with Starcrossed seems super obnoxious

War Room Army

Trollblood - New Army

Theme: Band of Heroes
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain - WB: +29
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)

Wrong Eye - Wrong Eye & Snapjaw: 17
- Snapjaw
Stone Scribe Chronicler - PC: 4
Trollkin Champion Hero - PC: 5
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 5

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 0
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16


THEME: Band of Heroes
---

GENERATED : 10/18/2017 12:40:08
BUILD ID : 2050.17-09-10

I want to like this version, I just think it's giving up board/scenario presence without more infantry. WE&SJ almost seem like overkill, although a heavy Madrak doesn't have to deal with is nice. I'm going to try out some variations of this guy for sure.

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

Fyrbrand posted:

I want to like this version, I just think it's giving up board/scenario presence without more infantry. WE&SJ almost seem like overkill, although a heavy Madrak doesn't have to deal with is nice. I'm going to try out some variations of this guy for sure.

Yeah, scenario is my big worry. I've got 3 different Madrak1 lists to try because the GK also seems super legit. GK runs, runebearer casts guided hand on him, 5 jackhammers is a kinda nuts assassination.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
The new GW Shadespire game and the skirmish WMH look very similar conceptually

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer
No idea what that is but cool I guess.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
:kazooieass::kazooieass::kazooieass:

Gw made a decent game with modern game design. The cosmic order is upset.

Give it a demo if you get a chance.

Aside, I'm having trouble getting pReznik to work. I put him in Faithful Masses but it's not cutting it yet. Here's my current version:


Protectorate of Menoth - Wreck Off!

Theme: The Faithful Masses
1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

High Executioner Servath Reznik - WJ: +28
- Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan - PC: 4
- Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16
- Redeemer - PC: 11
- Reckoner - PC: 16
- Crusader - PC: 10
- Revenger - PC: 10

Wrack - PC: 1
Allegiant of the Order of the Fist - PC: 3
Allegiant of the Order of the Fist - PC: 3
Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 4
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon - PC: 0
Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1

Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Idrian Skirmishers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide - Chieftain & Guide: 5
THEME: The Faithful Masses

Corbeau keeps Reznik safe from cav or caster assassination. I want to use Engine and live the dream.

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad
Anyone know what the best way to sell off an army is in the UK? There's a Facebook group, but nothing ever really seems to move there. I wanna sell out the cryx I don't really play anymore to pick up some new Merc stuff.

darnon
Nov 8, 2009

Beerdeer posted:

The new GW Shadespire game and the skirmish WMH look very similar conceptually

Not really. Company of Iron is more like Shadow War: Armageddon where it's a small squad of otherwise normal units. Shadespire is on a pretty small hex grid board rather than free movement with terrain.

Mantic is also getting in on the action with Vanguard as companion to Kings of War, but they're going the KS route so don't expect to see it for another year.

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.
Looks like the new huge based models will be direct order only with free shipping on pre orders.

http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-10-20-2017

They confirmed on facebook that's free international shipping but only if you pre order. This worries me a little as if I miss the pre order window and want to pick up one if these models at a later date, I'm going to have to pay a fortune to get one shipped to Australia.

This looks bad to me.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Friendly Fire posted:

Looks like the new huge based models will be direct order only with free shipping on pre orders.

http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-10-20-2017

They confirmed on facebook that's free international shipping but only if you pre order. This worries me a little as if I miss the pre order window and want to pick up one if these models at a later date, I'm going to have to pay a fortune to get one shipped to Australia.

This looks bad to me.

Hopefully this doesn't become privateer forgeworld

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS

w00tmonger posted:

Hopefully this doesn't become privateer forgeworld

That's kind of directly what they're describing

This is such a weird turn.

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
Exclusive store orders that flgs can't get is a great way for flgs to never carry your product.

Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer
I'm not crazy about it, but it's at least some kind of solution to producing large, expensive, and niche models that retailers will likely be reluctant to stock. Unless they start retiring models, which clearly they seem to have no interest in doing, eventually you have to address the problem of retail space.

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Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.
I don't really mind a direct order system in principle. With free shipping after currency calculation the Dracodile isn't that much more expensive than what I'd pay for a Stormwall/Hurricane kit from my FLGS here in Aus.

It's once the free shipping period has ended that worries me. Unless they work some wizardry for international shipping it'll price me out of the market.

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