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just ride the robo horse
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rabidsquid posted:just ride the robo horse
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Oct 13, 2017 01:37
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:After playing Horizon I found the bow mechanics in Rise of the Tomb Raider to be rather lackluster actually After playing Rise of the Tomb Raider I found Rise of the Tomb Raider to be really lackluster.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:40
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Horseback fighting is my least favorite thing about Witcher 3, and I'm glad Skellege has little of it. It is frustrating how often horse riding in videogames is weird.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:50
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it does not translate very well into games. I guess it is thematically cool enough that we just deal with it. A medieval/old west guy running around without a horse looks like kind of a dork.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:52
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Most videogames implement them as horse-shaped motorcycles, the one game that made it closer to real horse riding (Shadow of the Colossus) always gets poo poo on because the horse sometimes won't do exactly what you say the moment you say it.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:56
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Red Dead Redemption did alright with its horses, meaning they steered marginally better than any car in GTA4 did.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:04
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It's always cool getting a horse to ride around in a thematically appropriate game, but I can't think of a time that horse combat has been fun. Playing BF1 lately and woof. I can't kill poo poo on a horse and I just avoid them.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:10
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it was fine in red dead, or at least in my memory it was the combat in the witcher is already wonky and the added layer of riding a horse does not help things
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Oct 13, 2017 02:13
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I thought it worked well in RDR because you had bullet time and your horse would usually automatically follow trails and poo poo which made riding and shooting that much easier.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:13
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It was still a little tough shooting off the horse in RDR unless you used dead eye or whatever, then it was baller. When you managed to clip some mook with a single revolver shot while riding by it felt good as hell.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:15
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Yeah if anything it was fine in RDR because of the bullet time and lock on, but at the same time it's sort of a cop out because it's not like they figured out a way to make horse combat fun, they just stopped everything from moving and eliminated your need to aim. Which is perfectly cool and good, but it's not like they cracked the code or anything.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:21
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horse combat in metal gear solid v: the phantom pain was great. shooting rockets from the back of horses as was intended
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Oct 13, 2017 03:01
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I thought about mgsv but honestly don't think I ever actually used d-horse unless I was forced to maybe in that one mission where you have to destroy a bunch of moving vehicles but idk
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Oct 13, 2017 03:03
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Manatee Cannon posted:I thought about mgsv but honestly don't think I ever actually used d-horse unless I was forced to You shouldn't be destroying vehicles anyway. You should be stealing them with Cargo Fultons.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:07
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I'd be surprised if many people had that option the first time they did that mission. it's really early on e: tho the best way to do that is to block the road with your own vehicle and hide in a bush until they get stuck in a traffic jam 
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Oct 13, 2017 03:08
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rabidsquid posted:horse combat in metal gear solid v: the phantom pain was great. shooting rockets from the back of horses as was intended Yeah d horse owned. MGSV is such a joy to play, it's such a shame the gameplay is lumped in with a lacklustre overall experience.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:09
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JBP posted:Yeah d horse owned. MGSV is such a joy to play, it's such a shame the gameplay is lumped in with a lacklustre overall experience. Just don't use the Knock call when you're not playing as Venom Snake. It's something you will never ever even consider doing twice.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:12
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah if anything it was fine in RDR because of the bullet time and lock on, but at the same time it's sort of a cop out because it's not like they figured out a way to make horse combat fun, they just stopped everything from moving and eliminated your need to aim. Which is perfectly cool and good, but it's not like they cracked the code or anything. I don't know what you want out of horse combat, then. Guess what, riding at shooting at the same time is hard. Shooting accurately is a joke. This is accurately represented by the non-bullettime horse shooting in RDR. If you want fighting on horsback to be badass and fun instead of "realistic", there's bullettime and lockon. I just don't understand what you're envisioning as "fun horse combat".
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Oct 13, 2017 03:32
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It’s easy in movies and that’s the basis for the action in most games.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:37
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Snak posted:I don't know what you want out of horse combat, then. I'm not envisioning anything. I'm just reinstating that making good horse combat seems hard. No need to turn it into an argument man.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:39
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Just don't use the Knock call when you're not playing as Venom Snake. It's something you will never ever even consider doing twice. absolutely do this, actually
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Oct 13, 2017 03:40
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Samurai Sanders posted:It’s easy in movies and that’s the basis for the action in most games. Yes, and I don't know how you would mechanically implement that without lockon and bullet time. I don't see how those are crutches or cop-outs. Those are the mechanisms by which you get to feel like a character in an action movie.
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Oct 13, 2017 03:42
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they should call it horse time
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Oct 13, 2017 03:45
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veni veni veni posted:I'm not envisioning anything. I'm just reinstating that making good horse combat seems hard. No need to turn it into an argument man. Oh, I agree. I think the big hurdle is good horse movement, which has been done very few times, but was in RDR. Edit: speaking of control feel... God I hate 3rd person aiming so much in Fortnite. I really enjoy the battle royale concept so far, but I basically feel like I can't hit the broad side of a barn, and it's got a really frustrating gun-feel. Snak fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Oct 13, 2017 03:52
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RDR was pretty good horse fighting. It's more that when you want to hit a man with a sword from your horse it always sucks, but I haven't the faintest idea on how you could make it better without putting the horse on rails.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:03
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Like I said though, for me the major issue is the jankiness of getting on and off horses. In every game that has horses I have at least a few times died because push the button to get on or off a horse and the game is like lol nope gonna kill you instead.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:07
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I did win the horseback sword and crossbow race thing in TW3: Blood and Wine but I'm still not sure how
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Oct 13, 2017 04:07
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Samurai Sanders posted:Like I said though, for me the major issue is the jankiness of getting on and off horses. In every game that has horses I have at least a few times died because push the button to get on or off a horse and the game is like lol nope gonna kill you instead. That's fair. I do feel like RDR was the only game to be remotely close to doing this well, and it was still janky.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:13
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Samurai Sanders posted:Like I said though, for me the major issue is the jankiness of getting on and off horses. In every game that has horses I have at least a few times died because push the button to get on or off a horse and the game is like lol nope gonna kill you instead. Mounting a horse and being launched into low orbit at mach 4 is one of the best things about games.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:13
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That minigame where you have to hit the balloons on horseback in the new Zelda was my personal hell.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:33
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Snak posted:That's fair. Battlefield 1 has decent horse maneuvering manurevering while in motion, does a lot of automatic "gonna just step smoothly over this cinder block/sandbag instead of screeching to a halt" stuff. Insofar as I've experienced, MGSV is all right too, but also mainly in the motion of it, because I'm not thrilled about the 5-second cutscene every time you hop on the horse.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:37
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JBP posted:Yeah d horse owned. MGSV is such a joy to play, it's such a shame the gameplay is lumped in with a lacklustre overall experience. Thats the phantom pain. 10/10.
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Oct 13, 2017 04:43
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BF1 horse mechanics are probably the best I've played. RDR was good, but also had way too many weird hiccups where the horse wouldn't do what you wanted it to. Shooting from horseback will never be easy or fun, which is why I'm so glad BF1 added a cavalry sword. poo poo is bananas how powerful and accurate it is.
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Oct 13, 2017 05:56
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Snak posted:That's fair. See also: ladder animations. Your character can run 60mph endlessly and swing a giant sword three times a second forever, but gets on and off ladders and goes up/down them slower than a normal person.
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Oct 13, 2017 06:07
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This problem has already been solved https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb97Ahy0NNg
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Oct 13, 2017 06:13
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Come to think of it I've yet to play a game where I get on a horse and think "yeah, this is awesome and not annoying to control at all." I don't know how Mike Pence does it.
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Oct 13, 2017 09:17
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exquisite tea posted:Come to think of it I've yet to play a game where I get on a horse and think "yeah, this is awesome and not annoying to control at all." Well he ain't the one doing the riding that's for sure.
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Oct 13, 2017 10:11
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Riding and shooting enemies in the eyes/kneecaps in SotC was awesome.
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Oct 13, 2017 12:48
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It may sound bad (even worse than using the tentacle hunter tool on Lady Maria on Bloodborne) but getting impaled by cavalry in BF1 is sure a spectacular way to die.
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