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Maybe we can then move to Gold, Silver, Bronze and "Basic" water quality. Or even fire service cover or policing etc etc. It's not funny that the LNP would probably like that.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:49
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So the private health insurance "shake up" is to only give young people a 10% discount which will be taken away when you turn 40. Ite just glorified PR nonsense.
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Oct 12, 2017 21:31
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Because simple rating systems for other products and industries have been honest and effective.  Insert image of the farmers union iced coffee and it's 4 star health rating here. 
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Oct 12, 2017 21:31
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fickle poofterist posted:The fact that everything is so poo poo made this hard for me to.parse... I work in private health and this article is the first I'm hearing about this.
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Oct 12, 2017 21:35
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Maybe they should address the fact that private health care is a complete waste of money. When iajwife shattered her wrist and needed surgery we had the fun of the exact same care and room but also a fun 2000$ bill afterwards that wouldn't have been there if we'd just said the word "public" on hospital admittance. Complete loving scam. Dropped the cover the day after and never looked back.
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Oct 12, 2017 21:39
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So premiums are rising and all The industry can cough up is 10%? I don't believe them. Make it 40%
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iajanus posted:Maybe they should address the fact that private health care is a complete waste of money. insurance in general (there are a couple of exceptions) is a waste of money because the whole business model is predicated on not actually providing cover when you need it.
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Oct 12, 2017 21:52
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iajanus posted:Maybe they should address the fact that private health care is a complete waste of money. When iajwife shattered her wrist and needed surgery we had the fun of the exact same care and room but also a fun 2000$ bill afterwards that wouldn't have been there if we'd just said the word "public" on hospital admittance. Complete loving scam. Dropped the cover the day after and never looked back. Yeah, for emergency or urgent care, just go public. The only benefit is choosing a doctor (which is probably the same one you'd have public) and MAYBE getting a private room if available. The big value is elective surgery because you jump the public waiting list and can negotiate with the surgeon to lower the gap because you know it's coming.
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Oct 12, 2017 21:53
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trunkh posted:Insert image of the farmers union iced coffee and it's 4 star health rating here. it should be 5 stars and you know it
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Oct 12, 2017 21:54
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i for one cannot wait to sign up to subsidise nearly dead baby boomer's health insurance
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Oct 12, 2017 21:57
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Wait isn't the LNPs plan to kill Medicare so we all have to subsidise Boomer deaths?
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Oct 12, 2017 22:06
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iajanus posted:Maybe they should address the fact that private health care is a complete waste of money. When iajwife shattered her wrist and needed surgery we had the fun of the exact same care and room but also a fun 2000$ bill afterwards that wouldn't have been there if we'd just said the word "public" on hospital admittance. Complete loving scam. Dropped the cover the day after and never looked back. Conversely, when SMG was cooking away once we entered the hospital we didn't have to pay for a thing due to having private, in a private hospital that allows you to stay multiple nights after the baby is born.
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Oct 12, 2017 23:27
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Birdstrike posted:it should be 5 stars and you know it Indeed which further highlights how ludicrous rating systems such as these are. Also 10% is the kinda discount you get from a retailer that's sick of your bullshit and just wants you out of the store. Not sure who that is going to win over.
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Oct 12, 2017 23:29
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iajanus posted:Maybe they should address the fact that private health care is a complete waste of money. When iajwife shattered her wrist and needed surgery we had the fun of the exact same care and room but also a fun 2000$ bill afterwards that wouldn't have been there if we'd just said the word "public" on hospital admittance. Complete loving scam. Dropped the cover the day after and never looked back.
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Oct 13, 2017 00:07
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Sappy Fingers posted:I moved to Brisbane from Canada about two years ago. My partner and I -- both permanent residents -- got spooky letters warning us that we needed to get health insurance, so we did in July of this year. It's over 250$ a month through QANTAS Assure. Did we get screwed and if so what is the best course of action to get unscrewed? My family cover is over $200 a fortnight so it sounds like you got a pretty dece deal
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Oct 13, 2017 00:14
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Working visas may require different health care than citizens. I dunno if you're getting hosed but I worked with a guy from the states who told me he had to get crazy private health cover too
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Oct 13, 2017 00:18
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Sappy Fingers posted:I moved to Brisbane from Canada about two years ago. My partner and I -- both permanent residents -- got spooky letters warning us that we needed to get health insurance, so we did in July of this year. It's over 250$ a month through QANTAS Assure. Did we get screwed and if so what is the best course of action to get unscrewed? That price seems about right, but insurance through qantas wtf? If there is any indication that private health insurance is a huge loving rort, its the amount of companies trying to get into that space. No coles, you sell food you do not sell insurance
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Oct 13, 2017 00:33
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Of course corporate tax is too high! What corporation would like to gouge massive profits out of a wealthy first world country with strong law enforcement, low endemic (Between the peasants that is) corruption and secure banks? NOBODY I TELL YOU!!!! http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/2017-10-13/fact-check-wii-australia-be-uncompetitive-on-company-tax/9033940
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Oct 13, 2017 00:47
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NPR Journalizard posted:That price seems about right, but insurance through qantas wtf? Qantas sells health insurance as an agent of nib. Same for apia and suncorp.
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Oct 13, 2017 00:58
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NPR Journalizard posted:No coles, you sell food you do not sell insurance Unrelated, but I saw the local Coles doing a can drive. Apparently it runs every year and is a collaboration between Coles and a homeless charity. The idea is, you buy a second can of food and put it in a box at the front of the shop to be donated. The second can is full price. Real generous
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Oct 13, 2017 01:24
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My first car was a stick
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Oct 13, 2017 01:25
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SadisTech posted:I work for the largest PHI company active in Australia AMA how has your day been
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bandaid.friend posted:Unrelated, but I saw the local Coles doing a can drive. Apparently it runs every year and is a collaboration between Coles and a homeless charity. The idea is, you buy a second can of food and put it in a box at the front of the shop to be donated. The second can is full price. Real generous yes, because gently caress coles they are a horrible company and anyone who shops there should feel bad
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Oct 13, 2017 01:35
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NPR Journalizard posted:yes, because gently caress coles they are a horrible company and anyone who shops there should feel bad It is impossible to participate in society without monetarily contributing to evil
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racing identity posted:It is impossible to participate in society without monetarily contributing to evil Its possible to choose a course of action that does less harm
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Oct 13, 2017 01:46
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NPR Journalizard posted:yes, because gently caress coles they are a horrible company and anyone who shops there should feel bad Can't say a lot, but it appears that an EBA for Coles from 2011 is about to get thrown out. Apparently there are a bunch of people from Coles management who lied on stat decs and stuff to pass the boot test.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:47
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SadisTech posted:I work for the largest PHI company active in Australia AMA Why don't they release lists of how much each plan pays for each hicaps item? Getting that info is like pulling teeth
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Oct 13, 2017 01:51
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Cartoon posted:Of course corporate tax is too high! What corporation would like to gouge massive profits out of a wealthy first world country with strong law enforcement, low endemic (Between the peasants that is) corruption and secure banks? NOBODY I TELL YOU!!!! Reading this "fact check" made me angry and I have already sent the ABC a condescending email telling them to take down the page until they get a clue. Because tax is paid on profits, "can we make a profit?" is a far more important and wide-ranging question than "what is the tax rate?" It's also why some multinationals put a whole lot of effort into pretending that their Australian workers are just agents for a foreign branch. AU tax rate is irrelevant when all your profits are made in Timbuktu 
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Zenithe posted:Can't say a lot, but it appears that an EBA for Coles from 2011 is about to get thrown out. Apparently there are a bunch of people from Coles management who lied on stat decs and stuff to pass the boot test. So does this take them back to a previous EBA, or... I guess UP to award in their case, gross.
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Oct 13, 2017 01:53
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NPR Journalizard posted:Its possible to choose a course of action that does less harm Is that what you do?
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Oct 13, 2017 01:59
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Mr Chips posted:Why don't they release lists of how much each plan pays for each hicaps item? Getting that info is like pulling teeth Because they want to obfuscate how little the set benefit is as a proportion of what most providers charge, and push customers onto the preferred providers where you're guaranteed 70 - 100 % cover based on your LOC. Extras are poo poo anyway, unless you're really clever about how to use them, have an actual need for a variety of services every year and know exactly how to maximise them. The only way to look at it is mitigating the cost over regular payments instead of in lump sums but even then you won't come out ahead, on average. The product wouldn't be offered if you did, it would be unsustainable. And some get retired for this very reason.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:29
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SadisTech posted:I work for the largest PHI company active in Australia AMA Have you bought any new cool suits of armour for yourself or your family recently?
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Oct 13, 2017 02:33
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racing identity posted:Is that what you do? I try to, yes. Especially when its as simple as doing things like "dont shop at colesworth" and "try to buy from locally owned shops"
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Oct 13, 2017 02:38
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old men running the world UNESCO savaged
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Oct 13, 2017 02:42
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NPR Journalizard posted:I try to, yes. Try being poor and "ethical", it's basically impossible. What if there are no shops other than the usual duopoly in your area? You're either lumped with them or paying more money (usually via PT) to go further to a different shop. And that shop usually charges more for the basics you need (like bread and milk), because the duopoly can afford to undercut them and still make a profit. When you are literally having to choose between getting food or medication, that kind of "buying ethically" seems like pure wankery.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:46
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If you're a permanent resident you're entitled to free healthcare, aren't you? Why would you get a letter ordering you to get private, that sounds ridiculous. But then of course I am no longer a permanent resident and today Mr. Hookshot put his application in for Canadian citizenship so I don't even know how Australia works anymore, it wouldn't surprise me if they gently caress over perm residents anymore either.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:54
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The ethical thing to do is to steal as many cans of peas as you can and donate them directly.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:54
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If it's an option though, shopping ethically is better than nothing, right? Right? 
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HookShot posted:If you're a permanent resident you're entitled to free healthcare, aren't you? Why would you get a letter ordering you to get private, that sounds ridiculous. I'll have to double-check with Goast but I am pretty sure she gets free healthcare (she has a medicare card etc), but we got private anyway to cover things like emergency ambulance, dental etc.
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