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oh no blimp issue posted:why is the hello world rust example 3.2mb? why isn't lto turned on by default? why is over 2mb of that binary strings? rust statically links its binaries by default pre:➜ cat test.rs
fn main() {
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508K test
➜ rustc -O -C prefer-dynamic test.rs -o test
➜ du -h test
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pre:cargo rustc --release -- -C prefer-dynamic
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Oct 13, 2017 00:55
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I think I found the problem with my program: the CPU and GPU are both trying to use the blitter at the same time, loving up the registers and crashing the system time for a crash course in semaphores i guess?
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Oct 13, 2017 05:37
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luigi is like that primitive technology guy on youtube, only computer
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Oct 13, 2017 06:24
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cinci zoo sniper posted:luigi is like that primitive technology guy on youtube, only computer 
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Oct 13, 2017 06:55
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:terrible programmer checking in same
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Oct 13, 2017 08:07
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oh no blimp issue posted:why is the hello world rust example 3.2mb? why isn't lto turned on by default? why is over 2mb of that binary strings?
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Oct 13, 2017 08:44
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Oh my god why is NPM default behaviour to get the latest version of packages and/or why is nobody capable of doing semantic versioning correctly? Vue 2.5 released 5 hours ago, not backwards compatible with 2.4, rip all our builds.
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Oct 13, 2017 09:01
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HoboMan posted:also i prefer basic auth because don't know how to revoke token auth just delete the tokens from your store if you're using JWT then this becomes slightly more complicated because the access tokens are in theory stateless (thus not in a store) im gonna figure this out soon and i think just keeping a list of revoked access tokens in memory up until the time they would have expired should be enough Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Oct 13, 2017 10:15
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i spent 2 weeks working (not very hard) on making OAuth2 provider using a provider as a component-service-thing that you ran yourself and it did the heavy lifting for you re: token generation, you just had to wrtie a consent app. then the pig fuckers who made it totally changed their entire flow like 2 days ago, rendering my work uselss  so anyway we abandoned that POS and started using python + oauthlib + pyramid-oauthlib, and got the whole thing done in 2 days, it was quite nice the terrible programmer part is that i really should have noticed that the first solution was actually bad, but i got sucked in by their documentation that made it look easy
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Oct 13, 2017 10:25
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cinci zoo sniper posted:luigi is like that primitive technology guy on youtube, only computer luigi make the video for real, it's really cool to see your progress, i wish i had that kinda drive. i need to start a project or something
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Oct 13, 2017 11:23
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Chalks posted:Oh my god why is NPM default behaviour to get the latest version of packages and/or why is nobody capable of doing semantic versioning correctly? lmao
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Oct 13, 2017 12:28
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doing all the fun tasks first - a terrible programmer (me)
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Oct 13, 2017 12:30
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isn't there some package-lock thing now also aren't a lot of problems caused by people cargo culting "^1.2.3" dependency specs instead of "1.2.3"
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Oct 13, 2017 14:11
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Sapozhnik posted:isn't there some package-lock thing now but when you add a package with npm it automatically enters "^1.2.3" and you have to manually change it to "1.2.3" seeing as jabascript seems to attract a lot of inexperienced people and the reasonable thing to assume is your tools have sane defaults i will still blame npm for people cargo culting this
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Oct 13, 2017 14:49
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there is also this little gem from npms docs:List of reasons your NPM build may get hosed up posted:A dependency of one of your dependencies may have published a new version, which will update even if you used pinned dependency specifiers (1.2.3 instead of ^1.2.3)
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Oct 13, 2017 15:00
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cinci zoo sniper posted:luigi is like that primitive technology guy on youtube, only computer
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Oct 13, 2017 15:26
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today we’re going to learn how to make plutonium from common household materials
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Oct 13, 2017 15:47
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*monitor degaussing noise*
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Oct 13, 2017 16:15
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Luigi livestream the Jaguar coding
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Oct 13, 2017 17:33
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Sapozhnik posted:isn't there some package-lock thing now
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Oct 13, 2017 17:56
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yeah it's also really good in java land where every maven package depends on exactly one version of each of its dependency packages instead of having a magical faith in ~*semantic versioning*~ i'm j/s
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Oct 13, 2017 18:00
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systemd has the right idea imo: it's just a single version number like "235". it jumped by 200ish early on when it took over the udev project, which used the same policy.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:01
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Ralith posted:yeah you should really be using locks to pin the versions of your entire dependency closure; this works great in rust where it's the default. npm lets people overwrite old versions so two people with version 1.2.3 pinned can actually have different packages depending on when they downloaded it. so google and some folks stepped in with yarn that hashes the contents of the package, stores a copy on the yarn servers by proxy, and stores that in a lockfile, to avoid npm bullshit
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Oct 13, 2017 18:09
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javascript is a failure because the people it attracts are loving morons and dont understand that tooling is important. also the language is bad.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:10
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Sapozhnik posted:systemd has the right idea imo: it's just a single version number like "235". it jumped by 200ish early on when it took over the udev project, which used the same policy. imho, if i were to make things, i would probably make like XXX-YYYY-ZZZZ where X is a version that breaks compatibility, Y is a sub-version that doesnt break compatibility, and Z is a bugfix for current X-Y combination
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Oct 13, 2017 18:11
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:javascript is a failure because the people it attracts are loving morons and dont understand that tooling is important. yeah theres that subset who doesn't know any better, but then theres also the group that doesn't want to learn good tools, so they seek out bad ones that let them do dumb poo poo. javascript, npm, gradle, etc....
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Oct 13, 2017 18:13
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cinci zoo sniper posted:imho, if i were to make things, i would probably make like congratulations, you re-invented semantic versioning, verbatim. however, there is no way to formally enforce those semantics, so it turns out it doesn't actually work in practice.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:15
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:if you're using JWT then this becomes slightly more complicated because the access tokens are in theory stateless (thus not in a store) you can store the token in the DB still to check if it should be revoked, but JWT allows you to save yourself a call to the database by checking the expiration date before hand.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:17
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Sapozhnik posted:congratulations, you re-invented semantic versioning, verbatim. sounds pretty terrible, yay
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Oct 13, 2017 18:22
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i usually have a semantic version number mostly because it's what users expect, but i also include build number that is just an int that gets incremented. i was under the impression this was the standard
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Oct 13, 2017 18:34
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Babies first Java work project update Maven still good, Intellij good. I could almost get used to this.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:34
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my favourite thing about maven is that it’s laughably easy to set up your ci “here’s my project, here’s the pom, go hog wild”
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Oct 13, 2017 18:36
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yeah i want to kiss it on the mouth
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Oct 13, 2017 18:37
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Sapozhnik posted:congratulations, you re-invented semantic versioning, verbatim. the elm package manager actually does enforce it as far as is reasonably feasible: you can't upload a minor version update that changes the existing APIs, and you can't upload a bugfix update that adds new ones it's not perfect because of course it can't detect whether you changed the actual behavior of those apis as long as the function signatures remain the same, but still it's ahead of 99% of the stuff out there and it makes me wonder since in principle every single statically-typed package manager could easily do the same
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Oct 13, 2017 18:38
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:you can store the token in the DB still to check if it should be revoked, but JWT allows you to save yourself a call to the database by checking the expiration date before hand. yeah but in practice if you're doing: 1) check if expired (no DB call) 2) check DB to see if revoked ... then 99% of real world calls (i.e people arent trying to own you) will still end up hitting the DB because the clients can check if the token isn't revoked well, if your clients are lazy and just send it themselves then maybe a bit less than 99% of calls but still the vast majority of calls will be made with non-expired tokens so you dont really gain that much unless you either a) dont let people revoke access tokens (just refresh tokens) or b) do some clever poo poo on top of this
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Oct 13, 2017 18:47
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Luigi livestream the Jaguar coding it’s a lot of typing “make upload” and looking at the TV to see if the blitter is doing anything
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Oct 13, 2017 18:47
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yeah I'm down for that
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AggressivelyStupid posted:yeah I'm down for that 
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oh cool the 600XL I bought off atariage arrived too today it’s upgraded to 64K RAM, the RF modulator replaced with RCA composite out jacks, and an SIO2PC installed in the case to let my computer pretend to be a hard drive I’ve got a 1MB RAM mod I need to install in it and an SD card cartridge too
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