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Private Speech posted:My girlfriend also does this, despite growing up in the UK. I get it. She dumb.
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Blistex posted:It's not that they were lazy, or dumb, it's that they were just really inefficient, and following a "brute force" method of doing work, which was how they were taught to do everything since Kindergarten. Korea is still in the "labour is cheap, throw a million people at the problem" mindset because the country is still being run by 60+ year olds who were raised in that environment and are not that keen to change. As new blood works its way up the ladders of power, things are starting to change. I have not been in Korea for almost 10 years, so I might be a little out of date. It's been changing in some of the bigger companies at a glacial pace, mostly in the manufacturing sectors. But it's still the prevaling thought process that if you finish 'early' that means you don't have enough work rather than being efficient. Another aspect was that if you finished too early, your job wasn't that important and therefore could be eliminated without consequence. My wife saw numerous people cut from CJ just because they would dare to leave before 7PM. So in order to look like your job is important, you stick around just long enough to see your superior leave. But your superior is also waiting for their superior to leave, so it ends up being almost like a Mexican standoff where the people at the highest ranks will finally leave, and it was set off a cascade of people leaving afterwards. It's literally like waves of people coming out of the elevators. The biggest joke right now is the whole "family" or "smart" day thing, where the companies are "forcing" their employees to go home at 5pm one day a month. Rather than telling them the norm should be leaving on time, they are now treating it as a reward.
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Oct 13, 2017 18:32
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Oct 13, 2017 19:24
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/10/12/china-threatens-u-s-congress-for-crossing-its-red-line-on-taiwan/quote:In a rare pressure campaign, the Chinese government is demanding that the U.S. Congress back off passing new laws that would strengthen the U.S. relationship with Taiwan. Beijing’s efforts are the latest sign that it is stepping up its campaign to exert political influence inside countries around the world, including the United States. 
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Oct 13, 2017 23:11
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LimburgLimbo posted:I get it. She's not though.
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Oct 13, 2017 23:22
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quote:In Australia, there’s a huge debate about Chinese pressure on universities to alter curriculum to match Chinese propaganda. How the hell is this even a debate? Its propaganda, the antithesis of free thought and academia. Game loving set match.
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Oct 13, 2017 23:22
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oohhboy posted:How the hell is this even a debate? Its propaganda, the antithesis of free thought and academia. Game loving set match. The debate is how much money Australia universities will get before altering curriculum to match Chinese propaganda. For Australia sake I hope it mean Australian's get free college.
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Oct 13, 2017 23:34
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oohhboy posted:How the hell is this even a debate? Its propaganda, the antithesis of free thought and academia. Game loving set match. Well on one hand you have a very obvious case of propaganda, political censorship of factual history, and the antithesis to everything an academic institution should stand for. But on the other hand you have money, tons and tons of money universities have become absolutely addicted to to. I think it's quite obvious which side will win out in the end so long as universities are "run like a business"
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Oct 13, 2017 23:36
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Australian universities are doing everything they can to gently caress over students and get money but ive never heard of any debate about the Chinese wanting curriculum changes
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Oct 13, 2017 23:46
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BexGu posted:The debate is how much money Australia universities will get before altering curriculum to match Chinese propaganda. For Australia sake I hope it mean Australian's get free college. lmao if you think anybody other than a few education ministers will see a fuckin cent.
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Oct 13, 2017 23:53
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Oct 14, 2017 00:38
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Oct 14, 2017 02:09
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Pick posted:What do y'all think of Xi Jinping? /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55773343/_96969502_78b75efc_37fe_449f_944e_0fa30805a597.0.jpg) 
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https://twitter.com/BaldingsWorld/status/918778064884064256 Edit: lol Jesus https://youtu.be/vzf_C0ppDV0 Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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The whole "can't leave until the boss does" thing seems to have migrated to Japanese companies in the US. About 10 years ago I installed some custom machinery in a Japanese automotive supplier located in Georgia. It was deer season, and the entire American half of the engineering department walked out at 3:00 every afternoon. My team worked until 10 every night, and we would see the Japanese engineers at their desks on one side of the isle, with the boss at his desk facing them on the other. They couldn't see each others screens, but everyone was playing solitaire or screwing around. I think they all packed up around 8. The plant wasn't in production, so its not like there was anything for them to do anyway.
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Oct 14, 2017 03:25
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The Winnie the Pooh thing is especially silly; Pooh is always shown as happier and wiser than his more highly-strung friends. The people getting upset about it have clearly never even read those books.
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That youtube clip reminded me of when a friend of mine got interviewed on his trip to China with me. They started with normal touristy questions like "what do you think of this, have you heard of that?" before suddenly asking why the US didn't do more to pressure Japan to admit their atrocities against China.Dzhay posted:The Winnie the Pooh thing is especially silly; Pooh is always shown as happier and wiser than his more highly-strung friends. The people getting upset about it have clearly never even read those books. Xi has skin about as thick as the average page of Winnie the Pooh.
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Oct 14, 2017 06:00
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kimcicle posted:The biggest joke right now is the whole "family" or "smart" day thing, where the companies are "forcing" their employees to go home at 5pm one day a month. Rather than telling them the norm should be leaving on time, they are now treating it as a reward. A few (like 5+) years ago, Samsung I believe was like "we're going to do things the western way, everyone here at 9, leaving at 5!" and it was great except that everyone at all the other Korean companies could never get ahold of anyone at Samsung(or whatever it is) because they had all gone home so they stopped doing that.
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winnydpu posted:The whole "can't leave until the boss does" thing seems to have migrated to Japanese companies in the US. About 10 years ago I installed some custom machinery in a Japanese automotive supplier located in Georgia. It was deer season, and the entire American half of the engineering department walked out at 3:00 every afternoon. My team worked until 10 every night, and we would see the Japanese engineers at their desks on one side of the isle, with the boss at his desk facing them on the other. They couldn't see each others screens, but everyone was playing solitaire or screwing around. I think they all packed up around 8. The plant wasn't in production, so its not like there was anything for them to do anyway. Wasn't there someone academic worker evaluation study that measured the "estimated" productivity of hours in office to work produced and Japan and had a hilariously low score? I feel like somewhere someone said that in the typical 9-5 jobs you get about 3-4 "productive" hours but in the 12+ hour salarlyman offices it was actually lower and that was even with people's whose entire jobs existed to do a job that computers could do but they never changed or caught up with the times. Tokyo Vice for whatever it may be sensational BS one line I always remember was that there was one person in the office who's job it was to look up everything related to crime statistics for other people and when the author asked why they just didn't have a file room people could go into and look themselves they didn't understand why you'd have that.
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Fojar38 posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/10/12/china-threatens-u-s-congress-for-crossing-its-red-line-on-taiwan/ Baronjutter posted:Well on one hand you have a very obvious case of propaganda, political censorship of factual history, and the antithesis to everything an academic institution should stand for.
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pentyne posted:Wasn't there someone academic worker evaluation study that measured the "estimated" productivity of hours in office to work produced and Japan and had a hilariously low score? I feel like somewhere someone said that in the typical 9-5 jobs you get about 3-4 "productive" hours but in the 12+ hour salarlyman offices it was actually lower and that was even with people's whose entire jobs existed to do a job that computers could do but they never changed or caught up with the times. There's been a lot. Japan consistently ranks at the bottom of the OECD in worker productivity, it's like 1/3 of the US. Korea's usually second worst. The combination of doing things incredibly inefficiently because the old man at the top says so and being at work for enormously long hours without doing anything is killer. You do have to put in estimations though, since the official stats for Japan report that all employees work precisely the new government specified hours and unpaid overtime has been completely eliminated! Amazing!
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Oct 14, 2017 08:17
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Private Speech posted:My girlfriend also does this, despite growing up in the UK. The BBC?
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Oct 14, 2017 08:28
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pentyne posted:Tokyo Vice for whatever it may be sensational BS one line I always remember was that there was one person in the office who's job it was to look up everything related to crime statistics for other people and when the author asked why they just didn't have a file room people could go into and look themselves they didn't understand why you'd have that. You could've used like any example and you used something from Tokyo Vice? It's like starting an argument with "I am a loving retarded flipper baby rube, BUT..."
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Oct 14, 2017 08:35
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Why do people hate Tokyo vice so much?
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Oct 14, 2017 10:33
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Private Speech posted:She's not though. The evidence presented suggests otherwise.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Why do people hate Tokyo vice so much?
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My friend is at a Hangzhou textile show and got this business card. Reminded me of that scene in American Psycho
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Oct 14, 2017 11:42
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Pick posted:What do y'all think of Xi Jinping? Some of the US State Dept interviews with his old friends that Wikileaks released were really illuminating. They painted a picture of Xi as a highly intelligent, driven ladder climber. He apparently approached advancement inside the CCP power structure with a cynical, single minded determination, and ran his public life decades (education, marriage, public persona) as a coldly calculated mask. You have to remember, he rose from internal exile (his father was on the outs during the cultural revolution) to being the most powerful man in china. His friends that were interviewed described him as holding them in contempt for choosing personal pursuits (love, fun, financial security) over the pursuit of political power in the party. He essentially comes across as a less dramatic, real life version of Kevin Spacey's character in House of Cards. IIRC, his exact personal beliefs are less clear. He's apparently not some kind of actual Maoist, but he does hold some left wing tendencies. Some of the conversations I read in the leaks (and elsewhere) seemed to suggest this isn't because he's some kind of principled leftist, by because he's disgusted by the wealth and power the new rich hold, and firmly believes that all power should be centralized into the hands of the Chinese state. He also seems to be a strong believer in Chinese racial nationalism, and has been advancing policies inimical to other people's alongside a new wave of xenophobic nationalism inside china itself. He's basically an intelligent, authoritarian sociopath.
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TsarZiedonis posted:He's basically an intelligent, authoritarian sociopath. An intelligent Trump? That's marginally more threatening than I'd held him to.
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Vesi posted:My friend is at a Hangzhou textile show and got this business card. Reminded me of that scene in American Psycho look at that subtle off white colouring
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JaucheCharly posted:The BBC? Yeah I guess they have user accounts or something. Which you have to sign up for. Plus the BBC loves China, even. Might have something to do with the UK and racism she's experienced there. Dunno. e: To be entirely fair the US and UK do spend gobs of many on internet snooping, they're just less obvious about it than China. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Oct 14, 2017 14:12
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Private Speech posted:Yeah I guess they have user accounts or something. Which you have to sign up for. The way you know the BBC is doing it right (apart from their poor proof editing and clickbaity headlines) is that people also accuse them of being anti china. Like they're anti labour or anti tory depending on who you ask. I just feel if you're pissing off everyone equally you're probably doing something right regarding bias
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Private Speech posted:Yeah I guess they have user accounts or something. Which you have to sign up for. From all the Quora posts from Chinese people bitching about how the BBC is racist and biased against China, I would have thought the opposite. Vesi posted:My friend is at a Hangzhou textile show and got this business card. Reminded me of that scene in American Psycho Panda Dick
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nickmeister posted:From all the Quora posts from Chinese people bitching about how the BBC is racist and biased against China, I would have thought the opposite. They post a lot of "Chinese century"-style articles, but they don't tow the line regarding the SCS and Taiwan (probably at least in part because it's read in places like Malaysia where people might get upset over it). E: LeaderShow apparently has an english website. No mention of NBC or Coca-Cola though (or Panda Dick. there's some panda pillows) e2: Wait no there it is, on that panda pillow thing even.  e:3 Panda Dick are the sales reps apparently Private Speech fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Vesi posted:My friend is at a Hangzhou textile show and got this business card. Reminded me of that scene in American Psycho Jesus. That is really super. How'd a nongmin like you get so tasteful?
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Bajaj posted:Google the author's name with "liar/scam/fraud/lunatic" along with it. He's got serious mental issues and paranoia, has been called out for lying multiple times, and the credibility of the entire book and his news stories are suspect. I think he also made up that part about the dead white girl. I'm not as in love with Adelstein as most white Tokyoites seem to be, but the Lucie Blackman case was and is a very real thing.
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I saw this "Chinese" food stall while walking around, which was aptly named CHINA TOWN CHINESE FOOD. I will start writing it as Sizwan from now on. For real though, veg Manchurian owns. Breaded vegetables in Indian "gravy" slime that tastes vaguely Chinesey in chili soy sauce. 
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:I'm not as in love with Adelstein as most white Tokyoites seem to be, but the Lucie Blackman case was and is a very real thing. I think they might be talking about another case Adelstein mentions in the book, when he talks about another white woman working as a hostess who was disappeared by the Yakuza, that if I remember right some people checked into and didn't find evidence the woman ever existed.
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