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Powershift posted:Yeah, but think of what will happen when that money trickles down I hate to break it to you but that's just piss. It's always been piss. Half the time it's not even warm.
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The Butcher posted:I hate to break it to you but that's just piss. And some people pay money for that. That's at taxable benefit in the eyes of Revenue Canada.
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So I'm sure people here are more knowlagable on the subject than me, but what kind of problems would canceling NAFTA have for Canada? And The Sun is terrible, but it and the National Post are about the same, just the NP is more polite about its shittyness. Today the cover story is "We're all going to die!"
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We would default to the CUSFTA and use NAFTA for trade with Mexico.
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James Baud posted:Not gonna happen, don't even bother wasting time worrying about it. Trump can't do it unilaterally and Congress won't ratify anything. I've heard a few things on that. I've read stories in both the NYT and the Washington Post that say it's very likely trump has the authority to unilaterally withdraw. Congress may mount a legal challenge, but as written the president does have the authority. Risky Bisquick posted:We would default to the CUSFTA and use NAFTA for trade with Mexico. Again I've seen conflicting reports. Bunch of people say yeah, and some people say no. Again I think it'll end up in court. Edit: can't find the WaPo story since I read it a few days ago, but here is the NYT story from yesterday. NYT posted:The Nafta agreement allows any of the countries involved to withdraw six months after notifying the other parties. Congress could oppose a White House decision to withdraw, arguing that the Constitution gives Congress power to “regulate commerce with foreign nations.” Members of Congress could also threaten to stall Mr. Trump’s legislative efforts, like tax reform, in order to stay his hand. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/business/economy/what-would-happen-if-the-us-withdrew-from-nafta.html Gorau fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Oct 14, 2017 21:26
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Trade with commonwealth countries and cut out the usa if we're pitching ideas that will never happen
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The maple syrup was a nice touch.
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Oct 14, 2017 21:52
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Can anyone point me in the direction of some analysis as to how/why Singh won on the first ballot? I wasn't following the race that closely, but I just assumed it was more evenly split.
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P.d0t posted:Can anyone point me in the direction of some analysis as to how/why Singh won on the first ballot? quote:When the membership sign up deadline passed in mid-August, Singh's campaign quickly announced that they had signed up more than 47,000 members, representing about 57 per cent of all new members signed up in the course of the campaign and 38 per cent of the 124,000 members eligible to vote.
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P.d0t posted:Can anyone point me in the direction of some analysis as to how/why Singh won on the first ballot? He wore the best suits.
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Oct 14, 2017 23:41
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Seems like Singh followed the same strategy Patrick Brown employed when Brown beat out Elliott for the Ontario PC leadership.
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Dreylad posted:Seems like Singh followed the same strategy Patrick Brown employed when Brown beat out Elliott for the Ontario PC leadership. Courted extremists at the edge of the party, then abandoned them and renounced their values once elected?
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Oct 15, 2017 03:07
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James Baud posted:I don't understand why any parties still do one man one vote instead of riding-based points to better capture broad appeal. I think OPC does riding points and Brown/Singh won by enrolling tons of new members.
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James Baud posted:I don't understand why any parties still do one man one vote instead of riding-based points to better capture broad appeal. Because they want ridings where they're competitive to have more weight than ridings where they have five members.
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Vancouver by-election done. BC Liberal farm team candidate take the seat with 27%. The two furthest left candidates with near identical platforms and credentials would have had a combined total of 35%. I submit this as evidence exhibit #5216 of the left being its own worst enemy. Total turnout, 11%. 
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The Butcher posted:Total turnout, 11%. Well that sucks.
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The Butcher posted:Total turnout, 11%. lol
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The Butcher posted:I submit this as evidence exhibit #5216 of the left being its own worst enemy. Dunno what your concept of 'left wing' is, but Swanson and Watermelon add up to 23%
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Hahaha loving idiot college students http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/college-students-strike-refund-1.4355417
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jfood posted:Dunno what your concept of 'left wing' is, but Swanson and Watermelon add up to 23% Dunno if  but Swanson and Graves were the similar ones.Also after having written that, Graves is probably not a good politican name. FOUR MORE YEARS OF GRAVES.
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Arivia posted:Hahaha loving idiot college students lol these guys are going to be so mortified that this still exists when they look back 10 years from now
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And to cap off this triple post extravaganza, Vancouverites!:
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Arivia posted:Hahaha loving idiot college students That... doesn't seem unreasonable? Generally, if you were recieving services from an entity that stopped being able to supply those services, you'd expect to not pay? That's how it would work if you were being supplied services from a private company that was shut down due to a strike. If fees aren't discounted, the school has a financial benefit from the strike...
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T.C. posted:That... doesn't seem unreasonable? Generally, if you were recieving services from an entity that stopped being able to supply those services, you'd expect to not pay? That's how it would work if you were being supplied services from a private company that was shut down due to a strike. Ontario college prof here, and I agree. It's not like the teachers will be the ones put out if the kids get their tuition refunded. This demand puts pressure on the administration, not on me. I'm not getting paid during the strike and the kids aren't getting taught - the colleges still have the money and the admins are getting paid. Obviously they aren't going to get reimbursed for whatever per day, though. The real pressure comes from the threat that if the strike goes on long enough, they might get pushed back a semester, at which point the colleges would be on the hook financially. Edit: also the demand that "both parties" get back to the table when the administration were the ones who walked away. It's possible that these kids are just ignorant, but it's also possible that they are expertly making demands of only the administration while claiming to be neutral. Canadian media would never have a pro-strike group highlighted in an article without some false balance, and these students are providing their own false balance while really being on my side. It's pretty cool. Jimbozig fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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Oct 15, 2017 13:39
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Arivia posted:Hahaha loving idiot college students why are they loving idiots
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Students at York tried this after a 3 month strike and had it thrown out, so it doesn't bode well for college students who haven't even missed a day yet.
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Gorau posted:I've heard a few things on that. I've read stories in both the NYT and the Washington Post that say it's very likely trump has the authority to unilaterally withdraw. Congress may mount a legal challenge, but as written the president does have the authority. Yea this is exactly what made me wonder if it happened what would be the negative effects for us. I like Trump demanding cars be 50% US made, and even the car companies are all "no gently caress that!". So, people are being lovely to the parents of the hostages that were just freed because how dare they let their adult child and their spouse go on a hike in a dangerous part of the world. What the hell do they expect?
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Arivia posted:Hahaha loving idiot college students Goddamn, CanPol goons are stupid sometimes
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twistedmentat posted:So, people are being lovely to the parents of the hostages that were just freed because how dare they let their adult child and their spouse go on a hike in a dangerous part of the world. What the hell do they expect? That's so dumb. It was obviously a very bad choice in retrospect, and I have no doubt the hostages would agree, but what more should the parents have done? If my folks gave me advice on vacation plans, I'd listen to it and consider it, but if they attempted to forbid me from going some place, I'd tell them to gently caress themselves.
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Jimbozig posted:Ontario college prof here, and I agree. It's not like the teachers will be the ones put out if the kids get their tuition refunded. This demand puts pressure on the administration, not on me. I'm not getting paid during the strike and the kids aren't getting taught - the colleges still have the money and the admins are getting paid. So what you are saying is the strike is really likely?
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bunnyofdoom posted:So what you are saying is the strike is really likely? Pretty much immediately after the strike notice was given, the colleges started acting as though it was a certainty: https://twitter.com/ronmckerlie/status/917917019265044486 I've looked at the web sites for probably half of the colleges, and every single news item is written as though the strike has been inevitable, not as though it's merely a possibility. Sort of implies that the colleges have no real desire to engage in bargaining to prevent it.
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eh, thats the way it always works with this stuff
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RBC posted:eh, thats the way it always works with this stuff No, it doesn't always work this way. Employers who are at risk of being struck usually project more uncertainty.
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tagesschau posted:No, it doesn't always work this way. Employers who are at risk of being struck usually project more uncertainty. Those employers typically have a downside to a strike.
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tagesschau posted:No, it doesn't always work this way. Employers who are at risk of being struck usually project more uncertainty. whatever, its a very common negotiating tactic
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ocrumsprug posted:Those employers typically have a downside to a strike. Yeah, it's this. Unless this goes long enough to affect next semester somehow, the employer actually makes more money the longer the strike goes. They already have the money. They don't even have to worry about PR, really. Since it's all Ontario colleges, it's not like kids looking for an education can go to a competitor. I suppose bad PR could potentially hurt them with international students, though.
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It's on. https://twitter.com/OPSEU/status/919731152428072960
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