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Looks like we have new player roles for FM18. Saw a screenshot on the new recruiting video that had Segundo Volante, Inverted Winger, Mezzalla, and Carrilero. I can guess at Inverted Winger, but I don't have the slightest idea what the others do.
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Segundo volante is Spanish for Second Wheel...I think it's a CDM? Carrilero is a wingback. Dunno about the other thing.
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Oct 10, 2017 21:53
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I checked the index of inverting the Pyramid and didn't find any of those words OP
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The guy presenting the videos looks like the kind of person I'd leave a pub to avoid. If I ever went outside
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Oct 10, 2017 23:33
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Saw on Reddit that Mezzalla is something like a central winger who occupies the half-space, and Segundo Volante is a CDM who is responsible for shuttling the ball up the field as well, requiring a lot stamina.
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Shroud posted:Saw on Reddit that Mezzalla is something like a central winger who occupies the half-space, and Segundo Volante is a CDM who is responsible for shuttling the ball up the field as well, requiring a lot stamina. Welcome to Whose Touchline Is It Anyway, where the positions are made up and the roles don't matter.
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Shroud posted:Saw on Reddit that Mezzalla is something like a central winger who occupies the half-space, and Segundo Volante is a CDM who is responsible for shuttling the ball up the field as well, requiring a lot stamina. Man, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the meeting where they decided on the new roles to add in FM18, just to see what didn't make the cut: "What about a winger who never crosses the ball?" "Hmm, or a defender who only passes the ball to the goalkeeper!" "No guys, that's not good enough! We need more ideas like the central winger or the fifth version of a defensive central midfielder that is exactly the same in the match engine as the four we already have." "Yeah, let's just add a foreign word to a defensive position and call it a day."
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I wish they'd just add a generic role for each position, and let us choose the instructions. Forwards really bug me. For example, I can't get a forward to hold the ball up, dribble less, and make less risky passes without using a target man, because I don't want the long ball mentality that goes with that role.
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Oct 11, 2017 01:20
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lol it's the loving double pivot.
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Hopefully one day they manage to implement centrebacks you can bring the ball out of defence, and other astounding footballing innovations of 30 years ago.
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Shroud posted:I wish they'd just add a generic role for each position, and let us choose the instructions. Forwards really bug me. For example, I can't get a forward to hold the ball up, dribble less, and make less risky passes without using a target man, because I don't want the long ball mentality that goes with that role. Or even, and I know this is strange, but have the roles be player characteristics. Some versatile players can play in several roles and several positions, but plenty of players only know one way of playing. I'm not saying that players shouldn't be given instructions or that team shape and style isn't a choice the manager should have. But just that roles are how the player will evolve/perform within a tactic. For example in a long ball, high intensity 4-5-1, the lone striker could play slightly differently depending on his preferred role. An archetypal target man would hang off the last defender and try to hold up the ball for the midfield to move up the pitch, while a pacy forward would try to knock the ball on and beat the offside trap. Perhaps some players would drift to the wing more often looking to pull the defence to one side and create space for a run down the middle, while others would stick to the centre of the pitch and try to slip between the central defenders or pull both of them to him. Some attackers might be at ease in such a system, while others wouldn't. A "fox in the box" might dislike how often he's involved in build-up play and how brief the periods of pressure on goal are, while a player that thrives on beating the last man to set up one-on-ones with the keeper would feel completely at home. Edit: Under stress players with low composure could logically start to ignore team/position instructions and revert to their "natural" playing style, in the most extreme cases even drifting away from their pitch position to play in their ideal role/position (a CM asked to fill out in defence might lapse in concentration/lose composure and move too high up the pitch to attempt an interception or provide more attacking options, leaving an opponent free behind him). Shazback fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 07:35
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Fire Michael Cox and to a lesser extent Jonathan Wilson into the sun imo
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football manager will never make serious improvements until miles fucks off.
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:football manager will never make serious improvements until miles fucks off. Agreed he's an utter nob
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:football manager will never make serious improvements until miles fucks off. They should sell to EA OP
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The new scouting stuff looks cool
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Shazback posted:Or even, and I know this is strange, but have the roles be player characteristics. Some versatile players can play in several roles and several positions, but plenty of players only know one way of playing. A lot of these words are in the game already via attributes and preferred moves.
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The video they put out today briefly goes into the new roles halfway through if you are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeXV0MieLmY The dynamics thing showing up in partnerships on the pitch is pretty neat imo, hopefully it isn't horribly broken
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:The video they put out today briefly goes into the new roles halfway through if you are interested You know this will be true
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Hi lads. What's the good club badge / player face pack to use for Football Manager 2017.
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Bloodbath posted:Hi lads. What's the good club badge / player face pack to use for Football Manager 2017. https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/player-faces
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I think I might have found the holy grail: a genuine potentially-talented Mongolian player. My scout gave him 3 stars for Potential, which my Coaches are backing up now that he's signed for us. For context, 3 stars would be 'Good for German Budesliga'. I'll be ditching this game for FM18 long before he's ready for the First Team, but who cares.
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kingturnip posted:I think I might have found the holy grail: a genuine potentially-talented Mongolian player. It doesn't look like he came from an MLS club academy, but they'll produce players with straight up random second nationalities. Like all the tiny islands, Crimea, Mongolia, Zanzibar, everything
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Fat Lowtax posted:It doesn't look like he came from an MLS club academy, but they'll produce players with straight up random second nationalities. Like all the tiny islands, Crimea, Mongolia, Zanzibar, everything My best keeper for an MLS team was American/Sri Lankan.
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Does national team performance have an in-game impact on player value? It seems to.
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Don't think it's performance per say, but rather playing for the national team improves a players world reputation which in turn increases his worth.
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I don't know who Joe Tomlinson is, but for FM19, I think I'd rather they go with someone who has no enthusiasm or perceptible interest in the game to present their videos on new features. Like Jack Dee. Spend some money, SI.
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He looks like the kind of person that SI thinks buys their games.
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 this guy might be the best regen defender i've ever seen the game produce. good lord
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bewbies posted:
Aggression 10 he'll be a lower league journeyman.
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18 Heading? Not surprised with that loving fivehead.
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This is new: My new club captain consistently refuses to talk to unhappy teammates, saying every single time that he thinks it's something I should be doing. Never seen it before, in any game. It's pretty cool I suppose.
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Adrianics posted:This is new: My new club captain consistently refuses to talk to unhappy teammates, saying every single time that he thinks it's something I should be doing. A perfect recreation of the SI forums experience
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sebzilla posted:18 Heading? Not surprised with that loving fivehead. had same thought atalanta wants 80m for him and wont come down from it. i'm running out of ideas
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bewbies posted:had same thought Unsettle him by declaring interest than slip the agent some cash on the side to convince him it's in his best interest.
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A 17 year old with slipped discs might raise some flags
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:A 17 year old with slipped discs might raise some flags It's from supporting the weight of that enormous loving head
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bewbies posted:had same thought Forget about him for a couple of years.
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