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byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Yinlock posted:

e: wrong thread duhhhhhhhhh

:justpost: :cmon:

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Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

white sauce posted:

Hillary Clinton owned slaves and knew about the rapes of hundreds of young actresses but she accepted these things because $$$

now just imagine if harvey not only had the money to offer, but also bill's political clout

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Over Easy posted:

I don't recall Clinton having much contact with Hollywood celebrities.

this is a joke, right? she spent more time with celebs than campaigning

Dairy Days
Dec 26, 2007

white sauce posted:

Hillary Clinton owned slaves


dont forget the part where she stole their blood and then sold it for a profit without screening it for bloodborne disease causing people to contract hepatitis

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Suck Zone: Hillary Knew

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Dairy Days posted:

dont forget the part where she stole their blood and then sold it for a profit without screening it for bloodborne disease causing people to contract hepatitis

holy poo poo

a literal vampire

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002





:thunk:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

well, i was purposely avoiding making a your mother joke.

edit: 'cause "your mama is so fat..."

edit: edit: i'll get my coat.

i meant semen so the bar wasn't exactly high there

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Again, you don't even have to go into what Hillary knew about Weinstein.

Hillary defended the support for the coup in Honduras even after even mainstream organizations had started to report that the government that took over was using gang rapes as a way to attack feminist organizations that protested the coup.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Suck Zone: Hillary Krew

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Captain_Maclaine posted:

For an earlier example of this, see also how hillaryis44 went completely insane and racist as hell when Obama came out of (relatively) nowhere to "steal" her nomination in 2008.

i wish i had the sociology or psychology skills to analyze why hillary attracts these dregs its because she encourages it when she campaigns

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i wish i had the sociology or psychology skills to analyze why hillary attracts these dregs its because she encourages it when she campaigns

the same reason trump does really, just in a different and extremely specific way

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Man, those people obsessing about Hillary Clinton on Twitter sure are brokebrained with the brain worms, and do you remember the time they invented the myth of the Bernie Bro out of whole cloth based on assuming a few loud idiots spoke for an entire political preference?

I'm sure there are no cautionary examples to be had here at all.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

docbeard posted:

Man, those people obsessing about Hillary Clinton on Twitter sure are brokebrained with the brain worms, and do you remember the time they invented the myth of the Bernie Bro out of whole cloth based on assuming a few loud idiots spoke for an entire political preference?

I'm sure there are no cautionary examples to be had here at all.

They did the same thing to Obama and his supporters back in the 2008 primary.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

etalian posted:

They did the same thing to Obama and his supporters back in the 2008 primary.

And I'm sure there's no cautionary example there either.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

I did not know, I did not. Oh hi Bill.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Guy Goodbody posted:

I did not know, I did not. Oh hi Bill.

In 2014, Powell wrote that he "would rather not have to vote" for Hillary Clinton because of reasons that included a report her husband was "still dicking bimbos at home."

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Yinlock posted:

the same reason trump does really, just in a different and extremely specific way

yeah i just dont get what the loving buy-in for hillbots is/was. bernie was going to save america and trump was going to gently caress over every (brown) person his supporters blamed for theirwoes. what the gently caress was so exciting about hillary

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/919006359756079105

quote:

Race-based reparations implemented with flat payments would end up creating massive racial wealth disparities that are even larger than current race disparities in the bottom half of the wealth distribution. Race-based reparations implemented with graduated payments would end up delivering the vast majority of reparation money to the black upper class and almost none to the black lower class.

There is no way out of this double-bind except to combine race and class based leveling together.

Seyser Koze
Dec 15, 2013

Mucho Mucho
Nap Ghost
Glanced over at Daily Kos, and of course they're spinning this as Hillary masterfully refusing to be bullied by interviewers who expect her to take the blame for Weinstein.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Raskolnikov38 posted:

yeah i just dont get what the loving buy-in for hillbots is/was. bernie was going to save america and trump was going to gently caress over every (brown) person his supporters blamed for theirwoes. what the gently caress was so exciting about hillary

Somebody explained it as a lot of middle/upper class women could see themselves in Clinton. The competent, tough woman held back by a lovely husband, sexist assholes, not getting the respect she deserved, etc.

For beltway types, Clinton had somehow managed to create the image of herself as as the ultimate decorum observing competent technocrat. The centrist manager who could apolitically run the country

Those were the two prongs of her campaign, the Nasty Woman, breaking the glass ceiling stuff, and the "The Most Qualified Candidate in History" stuff

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

So to solve race inequality you have to tackle class

It's almost like a group of people have been saying this all along for decades. :thunk:

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
mods quick on the title change today

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
clinton supporters are generaly second-wave feminists and the ideology of second-wave feminism is basically "ok well if the system sucks, work within it and employ it your advantage and break all the glass ceilings to fix it" which can also coexist within an oligarchal system. third-wave feminism is seemingly antagonistic to oligarchy by means of supporting every woman, basically. the other issue is like, third-wave feminism is pretty much all millennials have grown up with, while second-wave feminists grew up in a system that was super garbage, so imo their desire to see change via tokenism kind of validates their efforts, while younger feminists have greater systemic representation since they were born, and thus don't see as much value in that. the biggest difference is third-wave also focuses on lbgt, minority, and class rights, from what i've studied.

so like, the age and class divide is kind of why you see older and richer women focus on clinton more, i think?

i mean u can ultimately fingerwave too and go "well they're just classist" which imo is true to a degree but i think if you see it as the underlying philosophy of a generation of super politically motivated women, the divide is a lot more clear... i think the economic differences that divide both generations is kind of like what makes that divide greater.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Frijolero posted:

So to solve race inequality you have to tackle class

It's almost like a group of people have been saying this all along for decades. :thunk:

exactly. PPP is a pro-socialist PAC

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
sorry for the feminism effortpost in the suckzone tho. beep boop dems bad.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

anime was right posted:

sorry for the feminism effortpost in the suckzone tho. beep boop dems bad.

that was a good post, OP

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




anime was right posted:

sorry for the feminism effortpost in the suckzone tho. beep boop dems bad.

nah screaming effortpost into the void is sincerely cool, good

if you get engaged replies its a bonus, but even if you dont that sorta post enriches the discourse on its own

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

anime was right posted:

sorry for the feminism effortpost in the suckzone tho. beep boop dems bad.

don’t be, it breaks the monotonous stupor of hopelessness

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

got any sevens posted:

this is a joke, right? she spent more time with celebs than campaigning

Of loving course it's a joke people! I saw exactly what went down last year, I saw the whole thing with my eyes and my high as poo poo brain.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Comrade Bruenig having to wade into this poo poo:


Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Squizzle posted:

nah screaming effortpost into the void is sincerely cool, good

if you get engaged replies its a bonus, but even if you dont that sorta post enriches the discourse on its own

redistribute the wealth of the discourse

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

gradenko_2000 posted:

Comrade Bruenig having to wade into this poo poo:




usually my rule is that one should never judge a Twitter user on their username alone, but if there was anything more deserving of the guillotine, "KStreetHipster" should be all I would have to see.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
like i can sort of get why older women really want to see clinton being prez and i insanely want to see a woman become prez too bc i think it would be badass as gently caress, but like, our system is so utterly hosed that i think a lot of people cantsee "well would i rather be dying and starving or help assist a generational shift of social change" and i guarantee you most people will choose not starving every loving time.

if we still had a good economy the past 10 years, i think millennial women would have overwhelmingly went for clinton over bernie.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

docbeard posted:

Man, those people obsessing about Hillary Clinton on Twitter sure are brokebrained with the brain worms, and do you remember the time they invented the myth of the Bernie Bro out of whole cloth based on assuming a few loud idiots spoke for an entire political preference?

I'm sure there are no cautionary examples to be had here at all.
you're comparing pundits with weekly shows on mainstream news channels, democratic party political operatives, and journalists writing op-eds and articles for nationally syndicated mainstream newspapers with a bunch of nobodies on a dead gay comedy forum

do you know who this insane person is with a giant news megaphone?
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/918470109831794689

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

yeah i just dont get what the loving buy-in for hillbots is/was. bernie was going to save america and trump was going to gently caress over every (brown) person his supporters blamed for theirwoes. what the gently caress was so exciting about hillary

well she wasn't trump, and then after she lost some people had to justify voting for her because admitting they're wrong is like deadly poison to them

same reason why the worse trump gets the more his supporters love him

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i like bruenig but does he rt yaliberty for irony or what

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