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Bard is a good choice. Monk would probably be my personal recommendation. Very consistent. Same general idea all the way through and doesn't wildly change game plans or go 60+ levels without major parts of its kit or anything weird like other classes.
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Oct 11, 2017 14:09
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There’s no way you can argue that summoner isn’t the easiest job to level.
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Oct 11, 2017 14:37
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Dross posted:There’s no way you can argue that summoner isn’t the easiest job to level. I could maybe see making the argument that Summoner is the easiest DPS to level by virtue of being attached to Scholar at the hip, but that's a disingenuous argument at best. Personally I would suggest starting as Lancer, Archer or Pugilist; you're only stuck with your starting class until you unlock the ability to travel between the city-states around level 15 or so, and from then on you can experiment to find what you like at your leisure. Those three will get you from start to 15 fastest by virtue of being physical DPS.
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Oct 11, 2017 15:21
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I love Ninja so much in FFXIV. Also my preferred healer is Astrologian which you get at level 30 once you hit Heavensward. My wife mains Bard, and this is both her first FF and her first MMO.
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Oct 11, 2017 15:28
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Calaveron posted:Depends. It's got a pretty interesting story and has great humor and settings and stuff https://mobile.twitter.com/FFXIV_Kelly/status/779178929114324992
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Oct 11, 2017 17:39
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Play whatever jobs you want. You can play all the jobs on one character and it loving owns.
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Oct 11, 2017 18:46
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Mega64 posted:Play whatever jobs you want. You can play all the jobs on one character and it loving owns. You actually can't, because the true endgame is all glamour-based and certain roles share equipment 
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Oct 11, 2017 18:59
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Elephant Ambush posted:
gonna drop an "lmao" on this one
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Oct 11, 2017 19:02
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Countblanc posted:gonna drop an "lmao" on this one Yeah you sure humiliated me. Grow up.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:48
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:For those who are interested in the meaning behind the Return to Ivalice raid in FFXIV but don't or can't play: No it it isn't it's just a surprising similar history set in FFXIV's setting just like Crystal Tower. Like all the major plot points are actually reverse in chronological order than in the actual Ivalice games. ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's not The same Ivalice as FFXII at all. Cid and Alma talk about Rabanastre trying to remain neutral in the war until it was Crushed by the Garlean Empire. Rabanastre in XII eventually overcame a totally different empire and built an alliance between that Empire and its major rival. It's explicitly not the Ivalice in 12 or Tactics cause there's a character from twelve Ba'Gamnan and his siblings hanging around in the Ruins of Rabanastre 1000 years after the Garlean empire destroyed it. Like all things FFXIV it's just a really on the nose reference they juiced up to fit the setting. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 03:33
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's explicitly not the Ivalice in 12 or Tactics cause there's a character from twelve Ba'Gamnan and his siblings hanging around in the Ruins of Rabanastre 1000 years after the Garlean empire destroyed it. Like all things FFXIV it's just a really on the nose reference they juiced up to fit the setting. It's more 10-20 years after the Garlean empire destroyed it, because they've only been around for like 50 years
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Oct 12, 2017 04:07
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How does it feel intentionally disappointing people who might have finally gotten interested in playing your MMO and helping keep it alive with their subscription dollars with the truth? Is this how you get your pumped up kicks, knowing that you have turned people away from playing your elite game (NO CASUALS ALLOWED MOOOOM) by giving them the facts? This is why Final Fantasy is a dead series propped up by MMO addicts, because people like you take away the fantasy and subsititute in "reality". May as well just call it Final Reality, starring Cloud Neckbeard and Aeris Gainzbro fighting Arthasiroth and his evil Empire.
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Oct 12, 2017 04:21
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Gologle posted:How does it feel intentionally disappointing people who might have finally gotten interested in playing your MMO and helping keep it alive with their subscription dollars with the truth? Is this how you get your pumped up kicks, knowing that you have turned people away from playing your elite game (NO CASUALS ALLOWED MOOOOM) by giving them the facts? This is why Final Fantasy is a dead series propped up by MMO addicts, because people like you take away the fantasy and subsititute in "reality". May as well just call it Final Reality, starring Cloud Neckbeard and Aeris Gainzbro fighting Arthasiroth and his evil Empire. 
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Oct 12, 2017 04:34
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Sir this is a Chocobo ranch
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Gologle posted:How does it feel intentionally disappointing people who might have finally gotten interested in playing your MMO and helping keep it alive with their subscription dollars with the truth? Is this how you get your pumped up kicks, knowing that you have turned people away from playing your elite game (NO CASUALS ALLOWED MOOOOM) by giving them the facts? This is why Final Fantasy is a dead series propped up by MMO addicts, because people like you take away the fantasy and subsititute in "reality". May as well just call it Final Reality, starring Cloud Neckbeard and Aeris Gainzbro fighting Arthasiroth and his evil Empire. *Aerith
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Oct 12, 2017 04:52
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TheHeadSage posted:It's more 10-20 years after the Garlean empire destroyed it, because they've only been around for like 50 years A character calls Rabanastre an Antediluvian city AKA "A city that existed before the flood" so it existed Pre-sixth umbral calamity. The Sixth Astral era lasted for 15 centuries. Rabanastre isn't that young. Like even if it was built right before the flood that still puts it hundreds and hundreds of years back. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 05:08
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:A character calls Rabanastre an Antediluvian city AKA "A city that existed before the flood" so it existed Pre-sixth umbral calamity. The Sixth Astral era lasted for 15 centuries. Rabanastre isn't that young. Like even if it was built right before the flood that still puts it hundreds and hundreds of years back. No, I mean Garlemald has only been around for 50-60 years. Sure, Rabanastre has been around for a long time, but it was only destroyed recently when the Garlean Empire decided to march on up and kick it's teeth in.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:47
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I haven't played since the newest expansion but Final Fantasy XIV is the finest MMO I've ever played and the best FF title since FF6. It's shockingly well designed and a blast to play. Plus it has AMAZING music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCcbKY7d0dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0EWdGU86Gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqJRnD5HuZw
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Oct 12, 2017 06:53
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TheHeadSage posted:No, I mean Garlemald has only been around for 50-60 years. Sure, Rabanastre has been around for a long time, but it was only destroyed recently when the Garlean Empire decided to march on up and kick it's teeth in. Either way it's still not the same Ivalice as FFXII and tactics since in the original game the time line runs the opposite way that FFXIV's version does. Like we know that Tactics is set way way after 12 as magic is dying out thanks to Ashe cutting off the weird godlike beings that fed magic into the world via their big Nethecite Sun Crystal.
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Oct 12, 2017 07:25
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And as we all know, Ivallice Alliance rigidly adheres to its previously written canon.
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Oct 12, 2017 09:02
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FFXIV Ivalice is probably some dream world nonsense to facilitate visiting Ivalice places that will end up not actually being related to the Ivalice Alliance. As said though, the Ivalice Alliance doesn't make any sort of logical sense because it's all sort of lumped together after the fact. Return to Ivalice was a real fun piece of content and it's nice to re-visit Rabanastre, especially the brief sojourn into the Garamsythe Waterway, looking forward to the next part where stuff will be. The worst part it though is that Matsuno is only writing that raid, where Stormblood's main story is also in the Matsuno playbook of statecraft but it's intensely uninteresting compared to basically everything Matsuno as ever done, but especially in comparison to Tactics and Tactics Ogre. Stormblood headed up by Matsuno would have been the greatest.
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Oct 12, 2017 09:33
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Stormblood headed up by Matsuno would have been the greatest.  Matsuno stories (and Shin Megami Tensei) are where that JRPG trope came from in the first place, they're always politicking that leads into killing god.
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Oct 12, 2017 09:36
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Hell yeah I'm okay with that because that's probably where we're ending up anyway. Naoki Yoshida's super into Matsuno stuff anyway (He was asked what game should be added to SNES classic and he said TO) so why not have the main man do it well.
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Oct 12, 2017 09:37
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Dross posted:There’s no way you can argue that summoner isn’t the easiest job to level. Sure it's the easiest but you get it to level 70 and then start leveling something else because summoner is like minus amounts of fun to play right now
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Oct 12, 2017 10:06
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Only if you're okay with the conclusion of Stormblood being that you kill Hydaelyn. thats also what every suikoden is about. so it seems like all the best games do it!
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Oct 12, 2017 10:20
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Red Red Blue posted:Sure it's the easiest but you get it to level 70 and then start leveling something else because summoner is like minus amounts of fun to play right now To be fair they just realized 'oh maybe the pet class should be able to heal their pet' like, the other day. That's something!
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Oct 12, 2017 13:39
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The GIG posted:And as we all know, Ivallice Alliance rigidly adheres to its previously written canon. It's more FFXIV is know to pull parts of things full cloth for references and then play with a lot of the details to make it work in its own setting. Like how the reason there's FFV bosses in Omega is Omega read some fairy tales that were based on events in the 3rd Astral Era that are similar to FFV but not actually FFV.
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Oct 12, 2017 15:22
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corn in the bible posted:i started up ff14 and walked around the starting town and realized it was just wow again and turned it off thx Lmfao this is the dumbest thing in this thread, of course you posted it
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Oct 12, 2017 20:17
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Only if you're okay with the conclusion of Stormblood being that you kill Hydaelyn. To be fair, we sort of got that anyway with the Zenos/Shinryu bit at the end. Whole thing's got Matsuno written all over it. And honestly I think Stormblood would have been fine if they had chosen to focus on a single location and really flesh both it and its inhabitants out, rather than trying to split things between two locations. But the situations in Doma and Ala Mhigo were set up as being so similar for so long that I don't think they could have gotten away with doing them separately. In the end I think it's just a matter of biting off more than they could chew.
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Oct 12, 2017 22:28
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They're making whatever Tidus did between X and X-2 canon in the mobile game I say canon because Toriyama is doing the writing on it ...I'm really confused, because I did not think Tidus existed until the very end of X-2 again.
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Oct 16, 2017 00:51
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I like how every time they try to expand a mainline game's story they end up going the most bizarre and weirdest directions possible, with the possible exception of X-2.
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Oct 16, 2017 00:56
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I thought Tidus got blown up by a bomb blitzball
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Oct 16, 2017 01:03
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corn in the bible posted:i started up ff14 and walked around the starting town and realized it was just wow again and turned it off thx Hey that's not fair. It's slightly worse than WoW in some areas.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:23
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Leal posted:I thought Tidus got blown up by a bomb blitzball
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Oct 16, 2017 02:40
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Mega64 posted:I like how every time they try to expand a mainline game's story they end up going the most bizarre and weirdest directions possible, with the possible exception of X-2. Idk, I think X-2 is a pretty bizarre and weird direction to take after X already. That's not saying it's bad, it's actually good imo, but it certainly doesn't feel much like the first game.
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corn in the bible posted:i started up ff14 and walked around the starting town and realized it was just wow again and turned it off thx No you didn't.
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Oct 16, 2017 04:05
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Ventana posted:Idk, I think X-2 is a pretty bizarre and weird direction to take after X already. That's not saying it's bad, it's actually good imo, but it certainly doesn't feel much like the first game. at face value it's weird but it makes sense that the game after you've broken the terrible endless cycle of destruction and human sacrifices fueled by ancient grudges ends up having a lighter tone than the game before you did all that
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Oct 16, 2017 04:06
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Didn't FFX end with Tidus ambiguously swimming back towards life anyways, that X-2 had as an ending too if you got 100% completion?
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Brother Entropy posted:at face value it's weird but it makes sense that the game after you've broken the terrible endless cycle of destruction and human sacrifices fueled by ancient grudges ends up having a lighter tone than the game before you did all that Lighter tone makes sense. But to go right to J-Pop concerts in 2 years is a but much though.
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