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Postess with the Mostest posted:Did octranspo refund passes for their strike? Or YRT for that matter.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:07
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Jimbozig posted:Yeah, it's this. Unless this goes long enough to affect next semester somehow, the employer actually makes more money the longer the strike goes. They already have the money. Couldn't Ontario students go to a college that's not in Ontario? I mean, it would involve venturing further from the centre of the known universe -- Toronto -- but I daresay it's possible!
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Oct 16, 2017 03:26
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Shaking my head at all those students in Ottawa who could easily move to another province mid-semester to transfer schools who just don't wanna because it would mean being farther away from Toronto.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:53
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PT6A posted:Couldn't Ontario students go to a college that's not in Ontario? I mean, it would involve venturing further from the centre of the known universe -- Toronto -- but I daresay it's possible! You can't be serious. It's a lot more expensive to go away for school and a lot of people can't afford it.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:54
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It's as easy as just showing up in another province on Monday, lazy loving students.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:55
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CLAM DOWN posted:You can't be serious. Never mind. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 03:56
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Lobok posted:Shaking my head at all those students in Ottawa who could easily move to another province mid-semester to transfer schools who just don't wanna because it would mean being farther away from Toronto. Well, students who are already enrolled have no options to move -- either within the province or outside it -- for the remainder of the semester, so it makes no difference how many colleges are involved. The quote I was responding to: Jimbozig posted:They don't even have to worry about PR, really. Since it's all Ontario colleges, it's not like kids looking for an education can go to a competitor. I suppose bad PR could potentially hurt them with international students, though. People who are looking for an education -- i.e. considering where to go -- absolutely can choose an institution outside Ontario, as can current students in Ontario if they're willing to give up half a semester (which is hardly unthinkable). I personally don't think it would be an appropriate reaction to this strike to transfer schools, or to avoid considering an Ontario school just because this has happened, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:59
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CLAM DOWN posted:You can't be serious. It's a lot more expensive to go away for school and a lot of people can't afford it. No, I was serious, but I admittedly didn't consider people living at home while going to university because I didn't do that, and all of the people I hung out with at university didn't do that either, and I din't consider living at home when I was selecting a university because I was planning to move out whether I stayed in Calgary or not. You make a fair point that I overlooked because of my particular experience.
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Oct 16, 2017 04:03
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PT6A posted:No, I was serious, but I admittedly didn't consider people living at home while going to university because I didn't do that, and all of the people I hung out with at university didn't do that either, and I din't consider living at home when I was selecting a university because I was planning to move out whether I stayed in Calgary or not. You make a fair point that I overlooked because of my particular experience. I lived a life of privilege and luxury, it never occurred to me that there might be poor people attending university.
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Oct 16, 2017 04:07
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PT6A posted:Couldn't Ontario students go to a college that's not in Ontario? I mean, it would involve venturing further from the centre of the known universe -- Toronto -- but I daresay it's possible! Yeah why don't those students completely uproot themselves PT6A posted:No, I was serious, but I admittedly didn't consider people living at home while going to university because I didn't do that, and all of the people I hung out with at university didn't do that either, and I din't consider living at home when I was selecting a university because I was planning to move out whether I stayed in Calgary or not. You make a fair point that I overlooked because of my particular experience. Not considering the circumstances of other people seems to be a hallmark of your posting
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Oct 16, 2017 04:12
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Yeah, like my friend who traveled from Ft. McMurray to attend college in Ontario and now he's sitting around lol
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Oct 16, 2017 04:16
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Furnaceface posted:I lived a life of privilege and luxury, it never occurred to me that there might be poor people attending university. Yeah I'm sure everyone living in the dorms or sharing a flat in the student ghetto was living a life of unparalleled luxury. Or maybe they just didn't have the luxury of having a decent post-secondary institution within commuting distance of where their parents live, so they had no choice but to move.
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Oct 16, 2017 04:23
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In other strike news, there's a union meeting tomorrow for all the GM workers in ingersoll, where they will probably vote to end the strike and agree to whatever deal was made. Probably going back to work at midnight tomorrow
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Oct 16, 2017 04:42
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So I decided to google "Alberta Party" and click the "news" thinger, and this stuff came up: http://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/paula-simons-can-fairy-tale-hopes-for-albertas-political-centre-come-true http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/calgary-mla-karen-mcpherson-leaves-ndp-caucus-to-sit-as-independent Maybe we'll see some poo poo get figured out, and they can get official party status? I'd be alright with that.
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Oct 16, 2017 05:24
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I would like to thank my vaguely racist grandmother for letting me live with her while I went to university. I am not drowning in debt.
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Oct 16, 2017 06:02
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T.C. posted:That... doesn't seem unreasonable? Generally, if you were recieving services from an entity that stopped being able to supply those services, you'd expect to not pay? That's how it would work if you were being supplied services from a private company that was shut down due to a strike. The thing is that service hasn't been denied yet. If the students don't get to finish the semester, sure, but this stuff about DAILY REFUNDS STUDENTS' RIGHTS is complete bullshit. Also GET BACK ON THE LINES AND WORK FOR US. It's just a bunch of entitled Young Conservatives not thinking of anyone besides themselves as usual.
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Oct 16, 2017 06:03
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PT6A posted:Yeah I'm sure everyone living in the dorms or sharing a flat in the student ghetto was living a life of unparalleled luxury. Or maybe they just didn't have the luxury of having a decent post-secondary institution within commuting distance of where their parents live, so they had no choice but to move. You know that some people literally can't afford living away from home while not working, no matter how crummy the dorm? How autistic are you that you can't imagine how any situation other than yours is possible?
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Oct 16, 2017 07:47
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Can't imagine why a bunch of youths growing up in a society where they're saddled with debt and the prospect of owning a home with a devalued degree is a pipe dream might be resentful.
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Oct 16, 2017 08:06
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Arivia posted:The thing is that service hasn't been denied yet. If the students don't get to finish the semester, sure, but this stuff about DAILY REFUNDS STUDENTS' RIGHTS is complete bullshit. Also GET BACK ON THE LINES AND WORK FOR US. It's just a bunch of entitled Young Conservatives not thinking of anyone besides themselves as usual. Those students will likely be expected to stay up to date on their classes without having lectures. At that point they are being partially denied, yeah.
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Oct 16, 2017 14:31
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One of my professor's missed one class at the start of this semester, and we're still trying to catch up to where we should be in the curriculum. A strike is going to throw schedules into chaos.
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Oct 16, 2017 16:43
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Also if the strike goes on for a while and you're an international student I hope you didn't make flight plans for winter or spring because you can go gently caress yourself
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Oct 16, 2017 16:46
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lmao Bill Morneau is a bitchboi http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/small-business-tax-1.4356229 quote:Ottawa will announce plans today to cut the small business tax rate from 10.5 per cent to nine per cent on Monday, CBC News has confirmed, as it attempts to quell a backlash to proposed tax reforms that have stung the Trudeau government.
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Oct 16, 2017 16:47
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Oct 16, 2017 17:03
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Remind me why a small business tax rate exists in the first place?
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Oct 16, 2017 17:13
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I think you can learn a lot about the Liberal party from this. The same back benchers who breathed a quiet sigh of relief when Trudeau abandoned his signature election promise were in open revolt about some very mild and common sense changes to the small business tax code. This is how organized interests and class sympathy can win out even though the reforms have the support of at least half the country (and more than half of the people who actually voted Liberal) and have been pushed for many years by the civil service.
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Oct 16, 2017 17:16
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PittTheElder posted:Remind me why a small business tax rate exists in the first place? I assume for the same reason any progressive taxation exists.
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Oct 16, 2017 17:17
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PT6A posted:I assume We could replace everything you post with these two words.
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Oct 16, 2017 17:20
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Oct 16, 2017 17:26
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Helsing posted:I think you can learn a lot about the Liberal party from this. The same back benchers who breathed a quiet sigh of relief when Trudeau abandoned his signature election promise were in open revolt about some very mild and common sense changes to the small business tax code. Who are these backbenchers? Can you name some names? If Canada is doomed to neoliberal mediocrity, I would at least like to put a face to it.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:05
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Morroque posted:Who are these backbenchers? Can you name some names? Just picture a fat 65 year old white guy. chances are reality won't vary much from your mental image.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:12
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Morroque posted:Who are these backbenchers? Can you name some names? Wayne Long for one
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Oct 16, 2017 18:16
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What a surprise that suddenly the plan changed after Angus Reid showed the Cons and Libs in a dead heat http://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017.10.12-Trudeau-Midterm.pdf
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Oct 16, 2017 18:16
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Morroque posted:Who are these backbenchers? Can you name some names? like all the newly elected liberals that eeked out victories over long held conservative or ndp ridings in the last election they dont want to lose their jobs next election randeep sarai and stephen fuhr are two examples
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Oct 16, 2017 19:03
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DariusLikewise posted:What a surprise that suddenly the plan changed after Angus Reid showed the Cons and Libs in a dead heat Well, poo poo. I'm no fan of Trudeau, but I really don't want to have to deal with living in Prime Minister Andrew Scheer's Canada.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:17
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Falstaff posted:Well, poo poo. I'm no fan of Trudeau, but I really don't want to have to deal with living in Prime Minister Andrew Scheer's Canada. The main policy differences being....? e: They're both parties that reflect the interests of the business class. See: Morneau backing down on the business tax cut.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:19
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DariusLikewise posted:What a surprise that suddenly the plan changed after Angus Reid showed the Cons and Libs in a dead heat The actual proposed changes are favoured by a majority of people in that same poll:  When asked in general terms about the impact of Trudeau's tax policies (all taken together over the course of his time in office) then people get really negative, but that probably says more about the general sloppiness of Liberal policy, the poor roll out of these changes, and the fact that normally restive Liberal back benchers suddenly, for the first and most likely last time, discovered their spines the second the government actually tried to tax rich professionals in a meaningful way. And here's a poll that actually breaks down support and opposition for the proposed tax changes by party:  Notice how concentrated opposition is within the Conservative party, i.e. the party which also happens to have the largest percentage of voters who don't even list a second choice when asked who else they would vote for (i.e. voters who are for all intents and purposes unflippable). This is just the Liberals bowing down to the one part of the population they actually care about : rich people. A decline in support is predictable at this point in any government's agenda, and Trudeau has broken a lot of promises and come off as increasingly feckless so we shouldn't be surprised that a leader who set very high expectations is slowly declining in popularity (though Trudeau continue's to outperform his party in personal approval). We've also been seeing a lot of controversial headlines about everything from NAFTA to legal weed to electoral reform to pipe line construction. The idea that this actually popular policy that seems to have super majority support among Liberal voters is somehow the cause of Trudeau's polling decline is a product of our terrible media which almost exclusively exists to express the opinions of affluent white collar assholes, and to make it appear that their particular views actually have way more support than they do. Morroque posted:Who are these backbenchers? Can you name some names? All of them? They're Liberals, what do you expect?
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Oct 16, 2017 19:20
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for a real laugh you can search the house of commons members by profession and take a look at how many of the liberal caucus were in professions that would be affected by these tax changes and so have former colleagues and friends who will be affected by the changes: https://lop.parl.ca/ParlInfo/Lists/...OccupationType=
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Oct 16, 2017 19:32
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Reince Penis posted:The main policy differences being....? Social conservatism vs. not? Seems like a biggish distinction to me.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:47
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PT6A posted:Social conservatism vs. not? Seems like a biggish distinction to me. The Conservatives were just in power for 9 years, holding a majority for 6 of those IIRC. What would you consider to be the social conservative policies they enacted?
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