thatguy posted:

Thoatse posted:

Good VR games: (by no means comprehensive, but these are all good)

Shooters:
Robo Recall -fps wave shooter fighting scary robots, shoot them or beat them with their own limbs you tear off that allows modding
Space Pirate Trainer -fun/casual fast paced wave shooter, cheap and vigorous to play
Onward- tactical shooter a lot of folks make special gunstock things to hold both controllers into a single rifle for immersion/aim
Super Hot VR -holy poo poo how did people even play this in 2d... wave fight game where enemies only move when you do but time is all matrix compressed
Raw Data -be ready to duck and weave in this sci fi shooter

Codezombie posted:

aside from trying to hit approx 90-120fps (which is critical and NOT optional)

kilus aof posted:

Doesn't this mean MMOs are a poor fit for VR because at any point there are 0-100 other players on screen? Which means you either lower the graphics with the anticipation of a mass amount of players or the FPS potentially dips into motion sickness territory.

kilus aof posted:

Doesn't this mean MMOs are a poor fit for VR because at any point there are 0-100 other players on screen? Which means you either lower the graphics with the anticipation of a mass amount of players or the FPS potentially dips into motion sickness territory.

Codezombie posted:

Try this for what the audio sounds like while you wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK1aD4CceRI

kilus aof posted:

Doesn't this mean MMOs are a poor fit for VR because at any point there are 0-100 other players on screen? Which means you either lower the graphics with the anticipation of a mass amount of players or the FPS potentially dips into motion sickness territory.

tuo posted:

Derek, watch the movie! Pretty please?

tuo posted:

Just bring a blindfold, that's similar to blocking people.

Virtual Captain posted:

It seems to me "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Cloud Imperium Rights LLC and Roberts Space Industries Corp.." is a betrayal of the 'CIG will not ask Youtube to take down Star Citizen related videos' promise.

But chances are I just don't understand open development.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcRxuvQT3Ew&t=26s
Question: "With the new Youtube copyright issue with companies redacting videos or claiming them as their own, will you allow videos of Star Citizens?"
Chris: "So the simple answer is yes. We're actually quite excited when everyone is sharing videos of Star Citizen. It's really cool to watch everyone show off their hangar and how the different ships look and the fun and shenanigans they get up to. So we're sort of in favor of you guys sharing gameplay, hangar videos, whatever it would be as far as that. So we'll be trying our best to not tell Youtube to block the content."


I'm changing the status to Compromised on the tracker later this week. https://starcitizentracker.github.io/

tuo posted:

yes

e: actually no. A well designed MMO should be designed and built in a way that a massive amount of players will not reduce FPS, it might only increase server tick rate (see: EVE online) or introduce poo poo like rubber banding. In an ideal situation, your client should always render it at a decent speed, and network bottlenecks should not impede framerate, but fluid playing (by desyncing/rubber banding). Of course, rubber banding might actually throw you around the world (while still maintaining FPS), which might make you . Overall, an MMO should have meshes that are low-poly enough to always render well, even with many players on screen (see: any MMO basically apart from SC).

This is CryEngine though....

Maw posted:

Can confirm Superhot VR is extremely cool and fun and will also make you sweat and your limbs hurt because you never thought video games could feel that much like exercise.
GORN is good and fun also, make sure you've got space around you though or you'll flail the controllers and your hands into walls and objects as the bloodlust overtakes you.

Codezombie posted:

It really sounds like CIG are honestly stalling the main thread waiting on (a) network update(s). I'm not sure that I've ever encountered that before, if it is they case they are doing that, then it's the most beserk idea.

Hav posted:

In elite, you hit the system, 1 star, 1 planet, point to your required destination and hit ‘j’ until the spawn, which could be neutral or pirates. Pirates would be sidewinders and kraits, generally the pythons and anacondas were peaceful enough.

I spent the summer of 1982 playing the game, and have extremely fond memories of the one mission in the BBC version, going after the constrictor.

Calling ED a backwards step from elite is weird. Calling the buggy as gently caress frontier II a better game than ED is weird. Suggesting that oolite doesn’t have popin enemies is weird.

Frontier i cheesed with an imperial courier loaded with shield generators, and while i loving loved that it had orbital mechanics, it was ultimately seriously flawed.

Also, the sound design in elite makes the game; it’s immersive, and while it’s effectively a truck driver simulator, it’s still true to a formula, but really, i think you’ve gotten caught up in weird nostalgia.

Codezombie posted:

It really sounds like CIG are honestly stalling the main thread waiting on (a) network update(s). I'm not sure that I've ever encountered that before, if it is they case they are doing that, then it's the most beserk idea.

Dogeh posted:

My broken ceiling fan agrees with you.

Codezombie posted:

It really sounds like CIG are honestly stalling the main thread waiting on (a) network update(s). I'm not sure that I've ever encountered that before, if it is they case they are doing that, then it's the most beserk idea.

Codezombie posted:

It really sounds like CIG are honestly stalling the main thread waiting on (a) network update(s). I'm not sure that I've ever encountered that before, if it is they case they are doing that, then it's the most beserk idea.

Mata posted:

When I learned about this, there were two main approaches to game networking:
The quake model, works well in fast-paced shooters where the whole state can comfortably be serialized, the server just pumps out gamestate updates and doesn't really care about accuracy or packet loss. The clients do their best to render the gamestate as they understand it, and the server does its best to reconcile all the player's input. In high latency situations you'll get some weirdness, like bullets not arriving where you're shooting or glitchy movement, but errors won't compound because you get a fresh gamestate from the server and can toss out the old one. As far as I know, most modern FPSes build on this model but it has been developed further since quake 3.

The lockstep model, when the whole gamestate can not be synchronized, e.g. when you have 1500 archers. This works by carefully ensuring each client simulates the exact same state, sacrificing latency for improved accuracy. Even the smallest floating point error will eventually cause a desync because the gamestate is never corrected, errors just compound on each other. I think all RTS and Mobas use this model, which hasn't really changed much since the age of empires days, except for some games allowing for stuff like joining in-progress games.

There might be more networking strategies but in general it can be summarized as "accuracy or speed, pick one"

Dogeh posted:

My broken ceiling fan agrees with you.

Toops posted:

Even a stopped ceiling fan is right 4 times a day.

Virtual Captain posted:

Still somewhat common for RTS games with too many units movements to communicate easily over the network. Modern games are wise to route around the issue, in different ways.



In the many lockstep implementations, rendering is delayed until all clients are ready for the next step in the simulation. I have no idea what CryEngine prefers.

AutismVaccine posted:

Most starcitizen fans are broken, but they are never right. check mate gish gallop goonie.

Virtual Captain posted:

Still somewhat common for RTS games with too many units movements to communicate easily over the network. Modern games are wise to route around the issue, in different ways.



In the many lockstep implementations, rendering is delayed until all clients are ready for the next step in the simulation. I have no idea what CryEngine prefers.

quote:

Idea: An alien race that we have superiority over and we can (as a community) influence their ascendancy to the stars or enslave them.
What would we do if we met a species 'inferior' (more so technologically inferior than apitude) to us but with just as much potential? I think it would be fun to explore the ways we could influence the future/current livlihood of a slightly inferior alien race. This would add to career jobs such as slave trader (sell as crew or outpost work), tourist (peace relations), bounty hunters (hunt slavers), rescue (save captured or injured), traders (improve aliens tech and obtain rareities), miners (extract rare materials that may/may not be detrimental to environment), science (research xenobiology and planet for anaomlies and ecosystem), etc...

TheAgent posted:

btw the interview occurred that day, but the article wasn't published until 9/11

and for some reason you've been trying to bait me into slapfights over the most basic stuff, I don't understand why and it's getting a little tiresome

can I just put "derek smart is always right and knows everything about star citizen" in my sig so we can bury the hatchet or whatever

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99.9% of ED's content is procedurally generated. Once they wrote the PG code, all they had to do is hit a button. The cost of something like that is orders of magnitude cheaper than what CIG is doing.