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Well I'm high in the middle of the night, OK? I'm genuinely sorry to you and my mother.
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The admiral's line was something like "As societies develop interplanetary travel in general they tend to become less religious". I didn't think it read as catty, dismissive, or condescending.
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Caufman posted:Well I'm high in the middle of the night, OK? I'm genuinely sorry to you and my mother. Your mother says "Just ignore him, and come back to bed"
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Oct 16, 2017 12:48
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Well are you gonna do as the lady says and get off my balls?
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Oct 16, 2017 12:52
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hugs night son.
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Oct 16, 2017 12:54
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Mom should make more money than you.
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Zebulon posted:I know the alt-right and their ilk don't exactly live in the world of rational thought, despite their claims otherwise. It still amazes me they look at the show with Bortus, Klyden, and their child (and all of this being front and center by episode 2, let alone ep 3) and yet somehow Discovery is the greater "evil" for having a black woman as the primary story focus. I just didn't find Discovery interesting enough for me to want to spend $10 a month on watching more of it one week at a time, I can't say what I saw of the cast had a single thing to do with that decision. Same way the tantrum throwing over the new Star Wars movies being "forced diversity" and mayocide confuses me to no end. I guess they are not explicitly opposed to diversity and more to the globalist/liberal/Jewish conspiracy that is trying to push it. Whenever they perceive this conspiracy they are offended. Orville is more of an underdog show, made on a tight budget and fighting an uphill battle against "Big Hollywood" Star Trek. It's perceived to be less tainted by the conspiracy. At least that's how I try to rationalize gay people joining the alt-right etc. Being gay/trans isn't even that bad in their eyes, it's the pushing it as part of "Cultural Marxism" that is the deadly sin.
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Rutibex posted:But I mean, not all religions are Christianity. Not all religions make verifiable claims that can be disproved by science. Buddhism or Hinduism for example are perfectly compatible with space travel. Scientologists have aliens as part of their religion! Actually this would be great. 1 Corinthians 15:6 "After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, and so many time travelers from the future they could not be counted."
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Caufman posted:More accurately, this is not about the religions themselves but how the practitioners interpret their religion. Right now you can find Buddhists killing non-Buddhists for no good reason. You can also read Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, an early 20th century Christian theologian who wrote extensively about a theology that conceives of a cosmic Christ, not just the Jewish one named Jesus of Nazareth. Agreed. Religion isn't monoculture. Rutibex posted:They looked though the literature database from their room, I can assume they are not stupid enough to fail to check if there is a e-book on file they could just copy to a thumb drive. It must be a religious requirement not to make electronic copies. Perhaps that was the fancy public one, and Chris and Devin were making things needlessly complicated for slapstick reasons by going after that one instead of seducing the schoolmarm and stealing her digital version. Cingulate posted:You don't have to do nothing, but I don't understand the line. I have no starting point. It starts from a warped view of American black people derived from only being exposed to American media, which is how some of these "alt-right" chucklefucks arrived at their stupid views. Authentically Black People only like things from the Approved Black Person Interests List, such as hip hop, keeping it gangsta, etc, you see. You know how everyone on the Internet is a straight white male? It's like that. It's ludicrous. ... Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel. Temba, his arms wide! Caufman posted:Reflecting on the Orville = notSJW, one thing I remember from the pilot was that I found it not completely right that Ed outranked Kelly. The Admiralty was impressed with Kelly, not Ed, and she came up with the plan to use the tree to destroy the krill ship. But she's a full rank below him and serves under his command. I'm impressed with her character's love for her ex-cuckold, but in an SJW-approved Union, Kelly would have had her own command before Ed. What was her rank when she cheated on him? He was an up-and-coming officer, I don't recall if she was as well. Maybe she will surpass him yet, if she threw herself into the work like he did pre-divorce. He stalled for a year. WampaLord posted:What in the gently caress is this post? Son, you done broke your brain with too much internet. Stop parsing everything as "SJW" or "notSJW" what in the gently caress is wrong with you? Stare into the Abyss, the Abyss stares back. Some puzzles are irresistible.
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I see now that I made several unfounded assumptions and forgot some important details. With this realization, I have gained a rank in my sjw level.
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Caufman posted:I see now that I made several unfounded assumptions and forgot some important details. With this realization, I have gained a rank in my sjw level. You're hereby promoted to the SJW Ensign of 1st class. You make us proud. 
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Oct 16, 2017 14:04
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Caufman posted:I see now that I made several unfounded assumptions and forgot some important details. With this realization, I have gained a rank in my sjw level. I think you can only level down in SJW
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Oct 16, 2017 14:08
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Was I the only one who expected Mercer to seduce the teacher when they introduced the character?
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but the whole rank thing is something that came up during talks regarding that one anarchist guy in the air force so it might apply. I'm going to presume Kelly was never big on being the actual Captain but specifically chose the role she wanted to do and the rank associated with it, choosing the education path and school required for it. Ed always wanted to be the Captain, to the point he probably wouldn't want to be promoted to admiral because he just likes commanding single ships or is good at it. There's also the fact the show wouldn't work without a second officer as presented and having her controlling her own ship while he was still controlling the Orville would make the show lose focus. And I didn't expect him to do anything of the sort, 8one6, on account of the fact it would be massively awful. Exploiting her recent loss, the fact he's lying to her about who he is and any possible future together, not to mention he's never seen a Krill up close before that day and the only way they interacted before was shooting at one-another.
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evilmiera posted:There's also the fact the show wouldn't work without a second officer as presented and having her controlling her own ship while he was still controlling the Orville would make the show lose focus. This isn't wrong, but obviously they simply wouldn't have written her character as important in any way if they weren't going to do the two-chairs-in-the-middle bit
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Oct 16, 2017 14:51
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The Bloop posted:This isn't wrong, but obviously they simply wouldn't have written her character as important in any way if they weren't going to do the two-chairs-in-the-middle bit Which I love, by the way; the bridge is like a living room and they're like a mom and dad sipping coffee in their recliners on a sunday morning while their kids have weird-as-poo poo conversations and games that every now and then they have to be like "hey! Hey! ...put that down!"
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Brawnfire posted:Which I love, by the way; the bridge is like a living room and they're like a mom and dad sipping coffee in their recliners on a sunday morning while their kids have weird-as-poo poo conversations and games that every now and then they have to be like "hey! Hey! ...put that down!" Same. It totally has a family room in the 50's vibe to it. Parents in their respective chairs, kids sitting way too close to the TV. 
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With the string of successes that Ed had had, I'm betting the end of season cliffhanger will be the brass trying to promote him to a new ship as the war with the Krill heats up. This is a nice mirror of Riker always turning down promotions.
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Oct 16, 2017 16:22
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Krill Makeup demo up on Tested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVZF41-Fp0
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel. Temba, his arms wide!
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I'm rewatching from the beginning again. I really hope our cities look like New York does someday; all that green, it's beautiful.
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Wait. I just caught that the seeds were altered with tardigrade DNA. What's with all the tardigrade lately?
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Star Trek has always sneered at religion, it's not because of MacFarland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTaj4nNH5ko
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Oct 16, 2017 17:40
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TNG Federation is a communist society nicked straight from Marx' works. Of course it's an atheistic society looking down on religion  (I never watched the original show, it's just too goofy for me. It might be different there.)
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Brawnfire posted:Wait. I just caught that the seeds were altered with tardigrade DNA. What's with all the tardigrade lately? A tardigrade is just a creature that seems to be able to survive almost anything, so you'd want to make things emulate that.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:08
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Brawnfire posted:Wait. I just caught that the seeds were altered with tardigrade DNA. What's with all the tardigrade lately? There was a surge of news articles on tardigrades over this summer. https://www.google.com/search?q=tardigrade+news+article&oq=tardigrade+news+article I think some studies were released and NY Times, CNN, Vox, National Geographic, etc followed with a bunch of "Hey, check out this crazy, almost indestructible creature" articles.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:51
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The Cosmos remake spent a lot of time talking about them
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Brawnfire posted:I'm rewatching from the beginning again. I really hope our cities look like New York does someday; all that green, it's beautiful. It's a brighter, happier future. I'm re-watching the Space Turtle-episode and I love how the Isaac always says the most obvious things. "It is a lift, captain!" "Captain! I believe were on the bridge of the ship." "Mercer to Orville." Er Er Er "Mercer to Orville, do you read." Er Er Er "Seems like communications don't work captain!"
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adhuin posted:It's a brighter, happier future. I'm trying to remember what Isaac sounds like and I read all those lines in Kryten's most sarcastic voice.
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The Bloop posted:I'm trying to remember what Isaac sounds like and I read all those lines in Kryten's most sarcastic voice. It's not that far off. Kryten has more enthusiasm and over the top inflection, maybe a slightly higher timbre. Saru from Discovery is closer to Kryten, though, I think.
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The Bloop posted:I'm trying to remember what Isaac sounds like and I read all those lines in Kryten's most sarcastic voice. To me, he sounds exactly like Robert Picardo.
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Tunicate posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVZF41-Fp0 I like how often they reference Star Trek while very carefully never saying those words.
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Brawnfire posted:Wait. I just caught that the seeds were altered with tardigrade DNA. What's with all the tardigrade lately? A year or two ago a scientific paper came out describing an unprecedented amount of horizontal gene transfer (genes being taken from one organism into the genome of an unrelated organism) in tardigrades, something like 50% of tardigrade genes seemed to have originated from horizontal transfer. Unfortunately another paper soon followed showing that the first paper's results were due to contaminated genome sequencing.
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Lol, that's a scientific self own on at least two levels. First, loving up the original finding. Then, beshitting a cool discovery by debunking it.
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Cojawfee posted:A tardigrade is just a creature that seems to be able to survive almost anything, so you'd want to make things emulate that. Yeah as much as the aforementioned science paper might've gotten wrong they're still cool in the sense of what they survive.
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Cingulate posted:Colin, kneeling yet victorious. Donald, his heart screaming. Shaka, his eyes open. zoux posted:Star Trek has always sneered at religion, it's not because of MacFarland In this context Picard does not want to be worshipped as a god or be responsible for that whole situation. It's not that same as "sneering at religion..." Kind of like how how the alt-right thinks the Orville is cool and good because it supports their views if you squint and don't look too closely.  Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:TNG Federation is a communist society nicked straight from Marx' works. Of course it's an atheistic society looking down on religion They have evolved to the point where they don't need to constantly poo poo on religion... something we can all aspire to. The Bloop posted:I'm trying to remember what Isaac sounds like and I read all those lines in Kryten's most sarcastic voice. He sounds like Data. His inflection is nearly perfect Data.
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evilmiera posted:Yeah as much as the aforementioned science paper might've gotten wrong they're still cool in the sense of what they survive. I know there's google, and I'll do that too, but this is a cool chat. Are they actually able to survive the vacuum of space? If so, do we know the mechanism as to how it's done, and would that be as simple to genetically transfer as, say, bioluminescence?
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Their moral reasoning in this episode is hilariously sloppy. "I don't want to kill everyone on this ship" ---> "There are kids here!" -----> "I am comfortable killing only the adults" As if choosing to not kill people lets you feel better about the people you do kill.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Their moral reasoning in this episode is hilariously sloppy. Children are not responsible for living on a warship. Adults, much more so. edit: If you ever find yourself in a situation like that, definitely don't kill the kids. Yes, it makes a difference to the universe, not just to your feelings.
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