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Thwomp posted:Oh yeah. The whole fall of Saigon is covered from all perspectives (the US evacuation of personnel/citizens still in country, all the South Vietnamese attempting to escape by any means necessary, and the North's army rolling in after the US didn't counterattack their offensive). The people on the boats were just heartbreaking. They also drive home just how much the last US ambassador hosed up by adamantly refusing to start evac procedures until the very last minute.
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mlmp08 posted:IIRC it does, but LBJ didn't want to look soft on communism/defense. the best thing this is used as an excuse by every president back then and we really never have had a good person be president for the last 100 or so years
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mlmp08 posted:IIRC it does, but LBJ didn't want to look soft on communism/defense. That's exactly right. There's a documentary from like 1975 that sums it all up in a couple hours what Ken Burns is rehashing. Hearts & Minds. The American bomber guy they interview, Randy Floyd, came back after his discharge and joined the VVAW at OU. We all thought we were against that poo poo, but it was like rhetorical compared to where he was coming from. That was one angry dude. Third World Reggin posted:the best thing this is used as an excuse by every president back then and we really never have had a good person be president for the last 100 or so years Kennedy was quoted as wanting to get out as gracefully as possible. Of course, he signed off on the Diệm assassination (we all think). He was way loving smarter than LBJ, imo, but what's really lovely is that's in a different timeline and we're here.
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Here is what I love about kennedy. He got into office while campaigning that we were falling behind in the nuclear arms race. He got into office and got the info that no, we were not falling behind. He then proceeded to build more nukes since he promised he would do that. My second favorite thing is hearing how coked out of his mind he was on the tapes during the cuban missile crisis.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:They also drive home just how much the last US ambassador hosed up by adamantly refusing to start evac procedures until the very last minute. But they didn't paint him completely with the idiot brush (well okay, mostly with the idiot brush). Guy lost a son in the war in 1965 and was deluding himself to the very end (okay, Burns doesn't definitely say this is why he refused to believe the intel that the North was rolling over the South's army but still). Edit: Newt already fixed his spelling error and deleted the original tweet. Thwomp fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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It got deleted, so here it is, forever. https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/920003025946796032 Edit: nevermind, bad source on the opioid czar. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Third World Reggin posted:the best thing this is used as an excuse by every president back then and we really never have had a good person be president for the last 100 or so years Jimmy Carter 
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:Jimmy Carter lol he sold his peanut farm to run for prez. Also I'm only up to half way of episode 7 of Vietnam, do they talk about Pol Pot and Burma at all or just Vietnam itself?
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Pol Pot - no. Burma - no, but maybe. They talk about a war Vietnam gets into after unification but only briefly. It could've been the Vietnam-Cambodian war.
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RE: Cambodia go watch Enemies of the People if you really want to kick yourself in your heart's balls. You've been warned.
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right, Cambodia, not Myanmar (Burma)
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I didn't even realize this poo poo was still going on: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/16/politics/bowe-bergdahl-guilty-plea/index.html "Bowe Bergdahl pleads guilty to desertion, faces up to life in prison"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/10/16/sen-cochran-to-miss-votes-indefinitely-narrowing-gop-margin-for-budget/ does h e have legit health problems that are dire enough to miss votes or does he just not want to be part of this poo poo show
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Hot Karl Marx posted:surprised I havent seen a trump tweet saying the government should execute him for desertion Dirty traitor who got 3 people hurt badly when he deserted is somejow worse than a dirty traitor with the capacity to get a whole lot more people hurt. I wonder if he'd support the death penalty for himself?
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Hot Karl Marx posted:surprised I havent seen a trump tweet saying the government should execute him for desertion "Y'know, back in the old days, bing, bong, when we were strong" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ci0S0RjXw Jesus it's shocking that Campaign Trump looks like a put together well rehearsed speaker compared to Q4 President Trump shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/10/16/sen-cochran-to-miss-votes-indefinitely-narrowing-gop-margin-for-budget/ He toured our plant about 2 years ago or so and didn't seem like he was all there, and had trouble getting around so it wouldn't surprise me.
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Bing bong let's euthanize the mentally ill
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Bing bong let's euthanize the mentally ill rip gip
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I wonder when we're going to start seeing vietnam era type protests because that poo poo would drive trump bonkers
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:rip gip more like rip the entire loving internet, let's try to be objective about this.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:I wonder when we're going to start seeing vietnam era type protests because that poo poo would drive trump bonkers Those are happening around the other war monuments, and there are many fine people involved.
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If Donnie hadn't managed to dodge the draft I guarantee you somebody would have fragged him. He could have been in charge of the snack bar and somebody would have fragged him.
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Can you imagine trump as a LT leading a combat patrol, especially in Vietnam when platoons were getting wiped out on a regular basis?
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Trump would have ended up in the NG stateside cracking protester heads.
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:Can you imagine trump as a LT leading a combat patrol, especially in Vietnam when platoons were getting wiped out on a regular basis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6da9U6Xjd8&t=131s
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https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/919948648619872256 Edit: https://twitter.com/GlobalNational/status/920047748086419457 The liquor finally caught up to Lahey Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Mr_Ruckus posted:He toured our plant about 2 years ago or so and didn't seem like he was all there, and had trouble getting around so it wouldn't surprise me. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/11/16458142/congress-alzheimers-pharmacist
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:Can you imagine trump as a LT leading a combat patrol, especially in Vietnam when platoons were getting wiped out on a regular basis?
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Mr. Nice! posted:Alachua County, Florida is in a declared state of emergency in advance of Richard Spencer's talk on thursday so they have cops coming down from alabama to supplement Gainesville PD. They are gonna loving smash counter protesters and give complimentary handjobs to that Nazi fuckboi.
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dear robot people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDc-9HLky-k
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Gobbeldygook posted:Dodging the draft was the best thing Trump ever did for his country. Or the worst, depending on how you look at it.
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