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Yeah, Eldar have some awesome psychic powers already. Conceal on dark reapers in ruins is fun. Having to choose between Empower and Enhance for S3 Banshees is gonna be tough.
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 So this is apparently the Sisters list that placed in the top 15 at the heat.
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bonds0097 posted:Yeah, Eldar have some awesome psychic powers already. Conceal on dark reapers in ruins is fun. Having to choose between Empower and Enhance for S3 Banshees is gonna be tough. :whynotboth: They count as separate powers, so choosing should be a lot easier. I just finished assembling 2 Wraithlords, and that Iyanden trait is pushing me towards buying the new start collecting box ... 
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bonds0097 posted:Happy about changes but enhance/drain is also pretty good on something like banshees. That's -2 to hit them in fight phase when stacked with acrobatics. I think the big difference is that when the new one is used on the "buff" side it helps the elder do something they're bad at (wounding) rather than something they're already good at (hitting), and also that the buff is targeted 18" rather than a 3" bubble, which is fine for conceal but hopeless for enhance. Of course they might be changing the existing ones to work like that, which would make enhance a bit better. The specifics of enervate are hella good in combination with new wraithlords though. Last game I played was agains sisters, and saint celestine personally carved through about half my army including two wraithlords. Debuffing her with enervate against new wraithlords means she'll need sixes to wound them, which is absurd, and cross applies to plenty of other melee nasties - you can basically combine a wraithlord and a spiritseer to completely no-sell them.
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted::whynotboth: Warlocks can only manifest a single power. But hey, at only 35pts a pop, why not multiple supreme command detachments of warlocks? :p One_Wing posted:I think the big difference is that when the new one is used on the "buff" side it helps the elder do something they're bad at (wounding) rather than something they're already good at (hitting), and also that the buff is targeted 18" rather than a 3" bubble, which is fine for conceal but hopeless for enhance. Of course they might be changing the existing ones to work like that, which would make enhance a bit better. Ah, I totally missed that it wasn't a bubble. I'm excited. Just need some stuff to be cheaper and we could have a really great time. bonds0097 fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:
This is in no way surprising but good to see the traditional ridiculously good Sisters player place highly.
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Booley posted:Unless the warhammer community post got the list wrong, the winning list came in at 2030 points. The only way to get it down below 2k would be for the stormraven to have twin heavy bolters instead of twin multimeltas. I had it totaled at 1988pts.
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chutche2 posted:
I refuse to believe his name is real.
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Given that the GW Community article is all 'Surprise, Guilliman was in all the lists!', maybe they'll actually up his point cost in Chapter Approved? Or is this more of a 'Buy more Guillimans if you want to compete!' situation? They all but call him an auto-include, so they're aware of the situation, and I'd hope they want to fix it. Everyone's bought their Boy in Blue by now, he can be nerfed.
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So the Warhammer Store in Bowie is having its anniversary sale on Saturday and I'm already planning on swinging over and buying a Primaris Captain. I'm also perfectly willing to pick up stuff for any spergs who are interested and are willing to pay for it. They have the dice, painting mat, brush holder, art book, and of course the Primaris Captain. All I ask is that you pay for whatever it is you want to buy and the cost of shipping. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I refuse to believe his name is real. It's probably pronounced 'co-burn.' It's uncommon but I've met people called it.
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bonds0097 posted:Given that the GW Community article is all 'Surprise, Guilliman was in all the lists!', maybe they'll actually up his point cost in Chapter Approved? Or is this more of a 'Buy more Guillimans if you want to compete!' situation? They all but call him an auto-include, so they're aware of the situation, and I'd hope they want to fix it. Everyone's bought their Boy in Blue by now, he can be nerfed. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I refuse to believe his name is real.
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There's something kind of silly about being able to take tempestus transports without having to actually take any tempestus troops
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Artum posted:Wonder what a good nerf for him would be. I wouldn't nerf him. I'm just run tournaments where Lord of Wars aren't used, because having one model cost 25% of your army is dumb and bad. Then again I remember the old days when having a special model for Apocalypse was awesome and interesting, instead of everyone and their mother bringing poo poo to a 1000 point game. I guess I'm just salty and bitter. Artum posted:Oh please, thats low tier english silly names. Oh yeah, other side of the pond. Carry on Mr. Cockburn.
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Tiger Millionaire posted:There's something kind of silly about being able to take tempestus transports without having to actually take any tempestus troops Chapter Approved should probably fix stuff like that. Have it so where you can take a number of transports equal to the number of units that could legally embark on them. Maybe even non-character units. The loophole of "oops all company'platoon commanders" in tauroxes still works in the AM codex, and hell maybe even works better with doctrines and ogryn bodyguard. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:Chapter Approved should probably fix stuff like that. Have it so where you can take a number of transports equal to the number of units that could legally embark on them. Razorbacks need a price hike given that they're 25 points cheaper than a predator for a difference of 1 wound on the body, and everyone keeps spamming them.
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Artum posted:I had it totaled at 1988pts. What's your point breakdown on it? Both my battlescribe and some guy on reddit came up with 2030. Captain w/bolt pistol, chainsword - 74 Tigirius - 130 6x Tactical w/ lascannon - 90x6 = 540 6x Razorback w/ 2x AC - 100x6 = 600 Stormraven w/ lascannon, multimelta, hurricane bolter - 326 Bobby G - 360 Fakeedit: did you forget the points for the two stormstrike missile launchers on the stormraven? They total to 42 points, which is exactly the difference between 2030 and 1988.
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Artum posted:Razorbacks need a price hike given that they're 25 points cheaper than a predator for a difference of 1 wound on the body, and everyone keeps spamming them. And taurox primes are cheaper than razorbacks with more guns at the cost of 1 toughness.
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Booley posted:Fakeedit: did you forget the points for the two stormstrike missile launchers on the stormraven? They total to 42 points, which is exactly the difference between 2030 and 1988. chutche2 posted:And taurox primes are cheaper than razorbacks with more guns at the cost of 1 toughness. Phyresis posted:the problem isn't the razorbacks themselves it's the insanely underpriced twin assault cannon
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Phyresis posted:the problem isn't the razorbacks themselves it's the insanely underpriced twin assault cannon I did the math and the FW Tarantula with dual ACs is one of the most cost-effective units in the SM army. I'm surprised we haven't seen more people spam them in tournaments.
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Perhaps the rumors of the Tactical Marine's demise was premature...
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I did the math and the FW Tarantula with dual ACs is one of the most cost-effective units in the SM army. I'm surprised we haven't seen more people spam them in tournaments. I've been using them recently and they're pretty baller. Only have two AC turrets though and those turrets are often being put on razorbacks. At least I put tac marines in them instead of just using them as light tanks. One downside is that in most deployment maps you won't be able to shoot with them top of turn 1 due to their range, unless facing an army with scout moves and such. I'm aware that twin assault cannons are undercosted but it's all we've got outside of guilliman bullshit that has any real efficiency. Make marine infantry cheaper and we won't need them, the AP change made MEQ a lot more fragile and made light infantry tougher without changing the relative point values of them. Marines in cover are pretty good though, but it's hard to take ground on the table while staying in cover. The marine bullshit in 7th was due to awful formations, the marines themselves if they didn't stack all those buffs were always pretty medicore. Get rid of the formations and change the dynamics of relative wound and armor rolls and marine infantry isn't doing so hot, but outside of the TAC vehicles bolter infantry is supposed to be where we get volume of fire from and those aren't worth their points. I'd rather have two guardsmen than one marine, but can field 3 guardsmen for less than 1 marine. I am generally liking intercessors though. I had misgivings about them at first but if I have a few vehicles the intercessors rarely get shot by multiple damage weapons and so their extra wounds per model can really shine. They get wrecked by dedicated melee (Like the time some repentia rolled through and killed all my intercessors and hellblasters pretty quickly at 2 damage a pop) but 100 points for 5 of them feels a lot better than 100 points and some change for 8 tactical marines. Intercessors have replaced my footslogging tactical marines entirely, I only really field them anymore if they're going in a rhino or razorback. Even losing out on having special or heavy weapons doesn't make up for how much better intercessors are as a footslogging unit. I still prefer devastators or vehicles to hellblasters though, I only take hellblasters and inceptors if running a gimmick all-primaris list. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I did the math and the FW Tarantula with dual ACs is one of the most cost-effective units in the SM army. I'm surprised we haven't seen more people spam them in tournaments. Opponent parks 25" away. Turret useless.
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Corrode posted:Opponent parks 25" away. Turret useless. 24" bubble of area denial.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:24" bubble of area denial. 48"
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Got a parcel from Victoria Lamb this afternoon. Casting is a little rough with flash and all but her sculpts are amazing. She's also awesome as she threw in a set of the female torsos I forgot to order for my lady Gaunt's Ghosts troopers with a cheeky note. It also took 7 days to get from Australia to the Midwest, so goddamn, Auspost is great. 10/10 would recommend charming Aussie lady for spacemen and women parts.
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Immanentized posted:Got a parcel from Victoria Lamb this afternoon. Hell yeah. I'm planning on seeing if she has good stuff for Valhallans when I work on my AM next year.
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Seven days from Australia to the Midwest and I can't even loving get a package of models from Russia to New York City in less than a month and a half
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TheChirurgeon posted:I finally finished Magnus over the weekend. The dude was almost too big for my new (cheapo) light box! The wings too for-loving ever, but I'm happy with how they turned out. Hey man, this is really good poo poo. Nice work Chirurgeon. goose willis posted:Seven days from Australia to the Midwest and I can't even loving get a package of models from Russia to New York City in less than a month and a half That's because you haven't smoothed things over your friendly local russian agent, comrade
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Newbie idiot painter question: is there an easy way to handle armor trim, or do I just have to get good at painting it?
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Get good. There isn't really a shortcut besides sharing a base color.
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Trim = get good. Edge highlighting can totally be cheated with colored pencils, though.
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goose willis posted:Newbie idiot painter question: is there an easy way to handle armor trim, or do I just have to get good at painting it? I've heard of people using sharpies. If you can find some with a super fine tip they might work 
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goose willis posted:Newbie idiot painter question: is there an easy way to handle armor trim, or do I just have to get good at painting it? I use a Vallejo Bronze color, two washes of Agrax Earthshade, and drybrush Runefang Steel along the edges for depth.
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Bombogenesis posted:I've heard of people using sharpies. If you can find some with a super fine tip they might work You want Micron Ink Pens
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goose willis posted:Newbie idiot painter question: is there an easy way to handle armor trim, or do I just have to get good at painting it? use the edge of the bristles and not the tip
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