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Will Faye and this musclebot just get it on already!!!
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My webcomic is augmented with topical references. 
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Oct 12, 2017 14:35
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Allison posted this on his site:quote:Just a quick note to say that I’ll no longer be appearing as a guest LICAF this weekend. I sincerely apologise to anyone who is disappointed; I was greatly looking forward to the event but felt that I could not in good conscience attend Did some drama happen? Was LICAF started by Harvey Weinsten or something?
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I just googled it. Apparently there was criticism of their lack of diversity, and they handled it really badly (the latter part is why the boycott).
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Oct 13, 2017 06:36
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Just a quick link on the issue: http://www.anenglishmaninsandiego.com/connews/onhomesoil/licaf-2017-lakes-festival-exhibitors-cancel-in-wake-of-diversity-criticism
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Everyone in that argument seems like a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.
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Oct 13, 2017 11:05
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you're not even putting in the effort anymore
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Okay, everyone in that argument seems to be bunch of clevins and alisons.
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Oct 13, 2017 13:12
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Cat Mattress posted:Just a quick link on the issue: Yeah that... Could have been handled better. It's such a shame because legitimate critique of lack of diversity is now completely mired in pointless and useless drama that's going to do nothing good for anyone.
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Oct 13, 2017 15:30
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As cliche as it is to say, whoa Poppy.
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Oct 14, 2017 20:02
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darthbob88 posted:As cliche as it is to say, whoa Poppy. this prose is really bad
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Oct 14, 2017 20:44
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There's a lot of use of long words that don't sound natural when you'd use shorter ones in real life. Words like "musculature" and "locomotion" don't belong outside of technical diagrams - unless you're trying to write the voice of a character that sounds like one. There also isn't a single use of the word "said" on that page, but around thirty places it belongs. The character dialogue in Poppy is as good as ever, but the narrative voice needs work to sound smoother.
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Oct 14, 2017 20:54
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darthbob88 posted:As cliche as it is to say, whoa Poppy.
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Oct 15, 2017 01:26
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although if morbi's trying to target the weird softcore crowd then tbh i wish him all the best, when it comes to making a living on the internet the sad truth is the freaks have all the money
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the new porn zeitgeist is freakcore and while it's unsettling to look at it also kind of owns because now it's leaking back out into traditional publishing and we're entering a new age of strange maybe morbi's okay with being freakcore, and best wishes to him if so
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i'm not a poppy fan but i try not to pass objective judgment on webcomics nowadays because they're all having to compete with kill six billion demons, which at this point in its development is the highest-quality free online fiction* we've had in at least twenty years *english is so clunky
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Oct 15, 2017 01:44
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Remind me why there are two people who Poppy addresses as "Ms. Shiba"?
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Oct 15, 2017 01:44
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Rand Brittain posted:Remind me why there are two people who Poppy addresses as "Ms. Shiba"? Howard Ms Shiba is a drag queen fashion magnate Betty Ms Shiba is Howard's wife Archenteron fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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Oct 15, 2017 02:29
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Betty is Mrs Shiba
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Oct 15, 2017 02:31
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woah Adam Bryce Thomas
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Oct 15, 2017 02:43
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I think a lot of the problem with the Friedrich scenes is the vivid details of a scene without any real way of being able to break away from it. I think it's more figuring out economy of words than anything else and it's a tough transition from visual media and part of the reason why readers are zeroing in on this scene in particular is because Morbi has practice writing dialogue. I'm wondering how other scenes similar to this would have played out in the comic as a comic. Like the sheep smooshing scene back in The Queen and the Clockbelly could have been just as painful to read with long, vivid descriptions of the vitality being pulled out of the sheep before they're smooshed into oblivion by Dynamis as the crowd looks on, utterly bored. I'm mostly seeing it as a pacing/editing issue, but yeah I'm getting the DeviantArt vibes off it too.
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Oct 15, 2017 03:02
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Took us a while to get here, didn't it
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Oct 15, 2017 03:26
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I like how Rocky's poetry in Lackadaisy has gotten less coherent but also generally better since his head wound.
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Speaking of Poppy, I'm concerned this whole animatronic thing is a big distraction while they do something else to him. I mean, they have that key that lets you lock (and presumably unlock?) memories. Could do some real messed up mindgames with that.
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Dogwood Fleet posted:I think a lot of the problem with the Friedrich scenes is the vivid details of a scene without any real way of being able to break away from it. I think it's more figuring out economy of words than anything else and it's a tough transition from visual media and part of the reason why readers are zeroing in on this scene in particular is because Morbi has practice writing dialogue. I'm wondering how other scenes similar to this would have played out in the comic as a comic. Like the sheep smooshing scene back in The Queen and the Clockbelly could have been just as painful to read with long, vivid descriptions of the vitality being pulled out of the sheep before they're smooshed into oblivion by Dynamis as the crowd looks on, utterly bored. I think if I had written that assassination scene in this format, I would've given a very ambiguous description of what was happening between the sheep and Queen Vix from an outside perspective, and then visually portrayed the action of the death in the same sort of "cut away" fashion as the original comic panels. The reason this scene with Friedrich has been so vivid is a combination of the abstract, psychological nature of what's happening, and the fact that Friedrich is a major protagonist in peril the audience could be empathetic toward. I thought it was important to know exactly what he was experiencing to give the scenario emotional weight, but I've always had a bad writing habit of "show, but also tell". Also, I think people who read a bunch of snark bait have perhaps become overly conditioned toward reading sexual fetishes into anything described with a level of detail they weren't expecting. Sometimes a cigar is just an exhaustively described cigar.
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Oct 15, 2017 05:50
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Morbi when is IDW gonna hire you to work on sonic
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Oct 15, 2017 06:17
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Perhaps... they already have (they have not)
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I feel like you could've cut away at the doll bit and left it exactly as clear that Friderich's in for a bad day idk
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:I feel like you could've cut away at the doll bit and left it exactly as clear that Friderich's in for a bad day idk Yeah, what I meant to get at is that you could use a second pair of eyes until you get used to writing like this.
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So, I just read all of Poppy O'Possum last night (and boy are my arms tired!) First off, I really enjoy the setting, the characters, the dialogue - the art and framing also went from 'workmanlike' to 'extremely engaging.' So, props to Morbi! However, I also have to agree that the change in gears to illustrated web serial novel is not working great for me. I really enjoyed the Chikadino page, which got across a sweep of backstory efficiently and directly. But the interrogation scene and the Boris scene both suffered from one of the sort of natural results of a shift to text: Pacing changes. I feel like (with the exception of the Chikadino page, which really used text like text) the issue to hand is that a comic's pacing is almost necessarily like greased lightning compared to text - and at the same time, art can stretch out a sequence in reading time while compressing it in time described. As it currently stands, I feel like the Poppy serial novel bits have been longer to read but shorter on punch than the comics pages, and that's a more important change than the comic-to-text change. As such, I really think the thing that Poppy-in-text needs is to tighten up. Chikadino's backstory worked because it was telling a text-shaped story that wouldn't have worked in comics form the same way; you could maybe make a montage page of him growing up work but I really think this kind of biography doesn't compress well into a comics page. However, the conversation with Boris felt like it was expanding to fill the space allotted - conversational beats that would have been glossed over or shortened to fit in speech bubbles becoming kind of dead weight. Poppy-in-comic has been really clever in presentation, fast in depiction, and concise in plotting. Translating that to text would be worth more than a few hundred extra words; I don't know if I speak for most readers, but I personally would happily accept shorter text updates with tighter pacing. Also, cutting details and descriptions down to the most relevant is hard work, in my limited experience, but well worth it. Just my 2c, since Morbi mentioned wanting feedback. Unrelated but that moment with the High Queen and her gorilla just screamed Kill La Kill to me, and was an excellent, excellent scene that I think would only work in a visual medium; attempting to describe it physically in text wouldn't really get across the style unless one went pretty aggressively impressionistic about it. EDIT Also for the record I've gone on too long about this because I really found Erfworld, a decent but not great comic, became borderline unreadable to me when they switched to serial novel format. I'd really like to see Poppy avoid the longwinded digressions the change seems to encourage, since they sap the story of momentum or urgency. Joe Slowboat fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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I actually adore all of Erfworld's digressions and wish they'd do text updates more often, so maybe I'm not the one to judge. That said the doll scene is pretty effectively creepy, but you could probably make the argument that you don't need to go into detail about how Chicadino's torturers are comic-book-freaky, even if you hang a lampshade on it by having Friedrich give asides to himself about how their "philosophy" is really just indulgent claptrap. I mean, I don't know where this is going yet?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Okay, everyone in that argument seems to be bunch of clevins and alisons.
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Rand Brittain posted:I actually adore all of Erfworld's digressions and wish they'd do text updates more often, so maybe I'm not the one to judge. I respect your opinion, but it's baffling to me. I feel like the Erfworld switch came at the cost of all focus in the narrative being lost. The character whose story in this world interests me, Parson, is barely relevant to the narrative any longer, and it really doesn't particularly feel like he was the catalyst for all this. The more weird background machinations are revealed and unexpected wizard business crops up, the more it feels like the sense we originally had (that Parson is a new thing on Erf, and will bring about vast changes to a stagnant and war-torn world) was just wrong. Parson's a little special, but vast and powerful things were already there and it was only an agreement to not disrupt the order of things that had Erfworld looking anything like the setting it was originally pitched to me as. That's kind of a letdown. Meanwhile, Poppy's deeper secrets were pretty well hinted at from early on, and I'm hopeful that the focus will remain on the main characters' stories, I'm mostly just worried about wordiness.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I respect your opinion, but it's baffling to me. ...which would also explain why some of the fanfiction is better than the main story.
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Since it's not enough for him to be entirely too good a comic artist, Boulet's decided to branch into animation. http://english.bouletcorp.com/2017/10/16/temporal-encounter/ (It has English captions if you hit the CC button)
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PMush Perfect posted:Now it's more like a campaign setting than a story. I think that's an excellent comparison - and in fact plenty of RPG settings have an issue where the scope of player action and the scope of the setting's important action really don't line up. Often without warning players beforehand.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:02
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the erfworld guy just realized his audience was tuning in for the pop culture references and illegible rules lawyering about rules he makes up on the spot, not the audience insert slob
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Oct 17, 2017 16:17
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Wilde Life is doing a pretty fun thing with what appeared to be a happy ending to the current storyline
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I'm looking for a good gag-a-day kind of comic, something in the vein of chainsawsuit, since it's slowed to a crawl. I love Kris Straub but I really wish he'd spend less time doing podcasts and more time making comics. Nothing against the podcasts, they seem fine, but I just care about them a lot less, and I think he's a better artist than a live personality. I can't imagine the webcomics make much money for the time involved though. On perhaps a similar note, I love you Morbi, but the web novel format isn't doing it for me. I hope it's a good change for you, though!
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