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Social media interns are one of the best things about this league: https://twitter.com/RealSaltLake/status/919692591234347008
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man I'm pretty enthusiastic supporter of the women's game but that highlight reel was some of the worst soccer and officiating I've ever seen.
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whypick1 posted:Social media interns are one of the best things about this league: That's loving great, but probably not an intern.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:30
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https://twitter.com/TheMikeDonovan/status/919744486380511232
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FC Dallas back into the void with ye
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That's my Bennyball!
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Oct 16, 2017 06:45
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Try to wrap your mind around the 65 goal differential difference between Toronto and DC United
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Oct 17, 2017 04:05
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https://twitter.com/grantwahl/status/920119976488570881 lol what
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Never a dull moment. I was wondering what was going to come next.
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moving teams is poo poo but austin would be a very very good mls market if they built something downtownish there
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https://twitter.com/AdamJardy/status/920124463873699840 The story linked here has more context - they'd play in the University of Texas's football stadium initially while looking to build downtown.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:27
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Has my Google Fu gotten incredibly lovely or is it impossible to figure out how Anthony Precourt actually made his money? At this point I must assume he was born into it
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haha wellquote:Local sources on Monday told The Dispatch that Precourt is frustrated with the Crew’s declining revenues and poor attendance figures and is strongly considering a franchise move to Austin. Earlier this year, Major League Soccer registered “Austin FC” and “Austin Athletic” as trademarks of the league.
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camoseven posted:Has my Google Fu gotten incredibly lovely or is it impossible to figure out how Anthony Precourt actually made his money? At this point I must assume he was born into it He was. His dad is Jay Precourt, an oil and natural gas investor.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:33
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Reminder that Crew Stadium isn’t even twenty god damned years old and Precourt wants public funds in THIS climate to build a stadium. gently caress him. gently caress him especially for doing that to a team with history.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:40
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Columbus owner Anthony Precourt is set to announce in a press conference on Tuesday that he will move his team to Austin in 2019 if a downtown soccer stadium for the Crew cannot be finalized in the next year. yikes
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Hahaha there’s like no place to put it that’s any closer to downtown than it already is. If you want more people put it somewhere in Dublin closer to the soccer burbs where white people aren’t afraid to go. E: for those unfamiliar, you can literally be downtown from the stadium in a car in 5 minutes on most days Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Oct 17, 2017 04:55
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Aww, it's cute that he thinks he has leverage here? (also why the hell does he think he'd do better in Austin, didn't they lose their USL team to Orlando five years ago and not improve the situation much at all since then?) edit: ^^^^Also given this, lol what is he even asking for? The original teams are in a panoply of iffy situations compared to the post-Toronto expansion teams but Columbus would have been the last of them I expected to snap first, they've seemed solidly middling in their fortunes. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Oct 17, 2017 05:06
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Dallan Invictus posted:Aww, it's cute that he thinks he has leverage here? The stadium is admittedly in a really iffy part of town but it’s not dangerous to go to games either. Downtown, there’s really no place to put it and any place that might exist is going to be as far away as it is now in an equally lovely part of town. The Biggest issue attendance wise probably is the location, but not in terms of distance from downtown. Local people are saying they sent out a survey to fans so basically Precourt looked for a path people wouldn’t support so he could pin his douchery on the city and act like it’s not his fault.
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sportsgenius86 posted:The stadium is admittedly in a really iffy part of town but it’s not dangerous to go to games either. Downtown, there’s really no place to put it and any place that might exist is going to be as far away as it is now in an equally lovely part of town. Thanks for the local context. That entire wave of stadiums located "basically anywhere near the cities we're based in that will take us" that were the initial SSS brain-wave before BMO Field has clearly backfired all over the place, but Columbus is nowhere near the worst off in that regard (see: Chicago, Dallas, arguably LAG) and I can't imagine how anyone will believe he isn't entirely to blame here whatever groundwork he laid. I can't imagine this is the kind of publicity the league wanted right before the playoffs so I am curious how they'll spin matters in the morning and how this'll develop in the next few days. If he genuinely wants out of town I wonder if he wants to sell instead? Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Reminder that Crew Stadium isn’t even twenty god damned years old and Precourt wants public funds in THIS climate to build a stadium. gently caress him. gently caress him especially for doing that to a team with history. This is your league buddy
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Dallan Invictus posted:Thanks for the local context. That entire wave of stadiums located "basically anywhere near the cities we're based in that will take us" that were the initial SSS brain-wave before BMO Field has clearly backfired all over the place, but Columbus is nowhere near the worst off in that regard (see: Chicago, Dallas, arguably LAG) and I can't imagine how anyone will believe he isn't entirely to blame here whatever groundwork he laid. The articles that are flying around on si.com and else where say a group of Columbus businessmen tried to buy the team from Precourt at either the full 100% or 50% ownership and he refused. He is obviously deadset on moving the team. I am loving crushed. It makes so much sense now why the marketing for the team has been non-existent, and why any stadium upgrades have been non-existent. He has obviously wanted to move the team from the start of the 2016 season. What an absolute fucker.
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Christ, a team for Dallas, Houston AND Austin? Just setting the stage for Texas to be the worst state in the union at soccer.
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insider posted:The articles that are flying around on si.com and else where say a group of Columbus businessmen tried to buy the team from Precourt at either the full 100% or 50% ownership and he refused. Yeah as a guy from Seattle I understand the bullshit of an owner who is desperate to move at all costs. Also I just realized this move explains why this was going on awhile back... http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/soccer/mls-trademarks-possible-names-for-potential-austin-franchise/ebRZrUnOnfwMjpYYywBXZL/ At the time people were confused because the Aztex or whatever had an utterly terrible bid for expansion, but now it seems clear that it was a relocation not expansion moving the gears. Can't wait to watch the AA play! Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Oct 17, 2017 07:13
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What does the MLS relocation process even look like? Do the other owners have to approve it or anything?
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Y'all can't be aggressively defending the league's terrible structure and then also complain about the natural and unavoidable consequences of it.
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wicka posted:Y'all can't be aggressively defending the league's terrible structure and then also complain about the natural and unavoidable consequences of it. Correct statement.
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2017 is a really good year for soccer
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wicka posted:Y'all can't be aggressively defending the league's terrible structure and then also complain about the natural and unavoidable consequences of it. Who’s defending this league post-Trinidad though
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Oct 17, 2017 13:00
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If he really wanted a team in Austin that bad, why not get an expansion franchise? I don't think a team has ever relocated, but a few have re-branded before though. Does MLS even have a process for relocation?
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Akileese posted:If he really wanted a team in Austin that bad, why not get an expansion franchise? I don't think a team has ever relocated, but a few have re-branded before though. Does MLS even have a process for relocation? That option was more expensive than buying the Crew and moving it.
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Akileese posted:I don't think a team has ever relocated The current team in Houston was originally the San Jose Earthquakes.
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Oct 17, 2017 13:45
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Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Oct 17, 2017 14:35
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But most importantly, what happens to the Trillium Cup
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I’m so loving sad about this. I know I don’t ever really post in here but I’ve been a season ticket holder for the crew ever since I moved here and today sucks. This year sucks. Everything sucks forever
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Jack2142 posted:Yeah as a guy from Seattle I understand the bullshit of an owner who is desperate to move at all costs. Had the same thought, this is really Clay Bennett-ish. God drat it, this is awful. But the only thing to say is, don't give in, don't give him a loving cent for a new stadium. If the league is dumb enough to let him move then he can watch his team wither on the vine. Cities are finally getting wise to this scam but it'll take a couple more LA Chargers-style fiascos before owners start getting the hint that moving away from a team's history is an idiotic idea. Or maybe they never will and this whole thing will fall apart. ShutteredIn posted:He was. His dad is Jay Precourt, an oil and natural gas investor. If nothing else, sports failsons are pushing me further toward full throated advocacy of extremely high estate taxes.
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I've said we need to replace most of the original teams' owners with people that actually want to make an effort, but ideally not like this.wicka posted:Y'all can't be aggressively defending the league's terrible structure and then also complain about the natural and unavoidable consequences of it.  Yes, this literally never happens outside the US, and it certainly never happens in P/R leagues, especially not as an attempt to avoid relegation.Professional sport is a business, and this is a natural consequence of that. All over the world (it is rarer in Europe but there is a world outside Europe), privately owned teams that can't financially keep up with their competition in their current location crash down the divisions, or fold (sometimes as a result of the first), or move in hopes finding a more amenable fan base. Some places have laws to stop the last option: I wonder how far something like that would get in the US with the current government? It would certainly find public support. I also wonder if those local businessmen who tried to buy the team out think the city wants a phoenix team in the USL, or that they could properly market one to the city (Precourt seems not to have really tried), or that they would have any success seeking an expansion team? The counterargument to "relegation would kill teams" is "loyal support in lower divisions and, worst case scenario, phoenix clubs". Maybe the oldest soccer market in the current era could make that work? Akileese posted:I don't think a team has ever relocated, but a few have re-branded before though. Does MLS even have a process for relocation? There wasn't a big process when AEG moved the original Earthquakes to Houston, but I don't really recall there being an extended blackmail scenario either, just "AEG's tried to make this work and put tons of money into it, the situation isn't sustainable with the current stadium deal, so the league's approved a relocation of the team." Garber is making similar noises this morning: it suggests that relocation approval will depend on whatever deal Precourt could find elsewhere. Reading the articles, it's really mum what he's asking for in Columbus besides "a stadium in a location people actually want to go to" - is he after public money or approval for a land sale or flexible zoning or what? The new Aztex had a hell of a time finding a new stadium after their old one flooded, I don't know what reason he has to think he'd be more successful there. In the prior case, the league kept the Quakes' brand and history and records in reserve until they brought a new team to SJ - I haven't seen anyone ask if they would do the same for Columbus if this happened.
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The right-sizing of American sports, where every crowd is tiny and passionate and serves the public loving good A glorious dream that's gonna take a bunch of leagues burning in hellfire to achieve
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Your Boy Fancy posted:The right-sizing of American sports, where every crowd is tiny and passionate and serves the public loving good It'll probably take guillotines. As long as Snyder is first?
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Dallan Invictus posted:I've said we need to replace most of the original teams' owners with people that actually want to make an effort, but ideally not like this. Another Ohio team getting the Browns treatment. Sure, why not. So it sounds like Garber could, in theory, force Precourt to accept the offer to the keep-in-Columbus crowd. Which would be excellent. Then we can ripple that through the league, except DC and New England of course because misery quotas must be maintained
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