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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

VanSandman posted:

What if you’re too poor for PMs?

Then the only way you can keep up a discussion is by shelling out $$ one way or another.

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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

If you are too poor for them quite luckily you are also too wealthy for them so you're set.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
relevant to this thread

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Sagebrush posted:

relevant to this thread



I can't blame my countrymen in these days for being literally unable to conceive of any service that doesn't nickel-and-dime you to death.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

relevant to this thread



PJOmega
May 5, 2009

That can't be a real comic.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

PJOmega posted:

That can't be a real comic.

Hi & Lois is often lame as hell, like Family Circus.

Edit: Keep in mind that it's been running since 1954 with the same author.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Arivia posted:

Honestly as someone with an actual English degree these last few pages have been so bad they’ve bored me out of my loving skull.

As a fellow English degree holder it reminds me why I finally went into something STEM-related instead.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Mods please word filter this thread to replace all instances of "class/criticism" with "shartballs" and "bourgeois/Marxists/Marxism" with "shartballers/shartballing".

Then probate everybody.

My sharty sensibilities agree.

Sagebrush posted:

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It’s like the library version of those “can’t use a toilet properly” posts.

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost

PJOmega posted:

That can't be a real comic.

Well, keep in mind it's from seven years ago, back when the concept of selling books hadn't yet been totally eradicated by Big Library lobbyists.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


PJOmega posted:

That can't be a real comic.

It is.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

outlier posted:

You've reminded me of a Terrible Book from years ago (the mid-80s?): Airscream. For a while, it seemed to be in every used book shop and pile of free books, so as a bookish youth I ended up reading it. Essentially it's the lead to a horrific mid-air collision and the public inquiry afterward. The court material is decently readable, but the crash itself features lots of characters being finely detailed and then suddenly killed. The one that sticks in my mind is a whole chapter about a farmer, the details of his life, his worries about the farm, the conversations with his family, what he does that day, etc. etc. Then in the final paragraph of the chapter, he's eviscerated by red-hot falling debris and never mentioned for the rest of the book.

I think it may have been a genre in the 70s: disaster-porn.
Amazon description:

quote:

A flaming mid-air collision...and suddenly a woman is a widow, thrust into a fierce battle against the airline, pitted against the establishment to rescue her dead husband's honor. Beyond the sudden carnage and the burning, twisted wreckage of a crash with no survivors lies a horrifying trail of legal and sexual perversion. The shockwaves of disaster are overwhelmed by a wife's stubborn, gritty determination to solve a mystery and absolve a man. The climax is as shattering as the midair disaster itself.
Kirkus review:

quote:

You really don't have an air-crash novel without vats of gore and burst bones, the pornography of a massive explosion at 400+ mph, satisfying our horrified curiosity about what it's like to go off in a mist of blood, flaming gasoline, and metal particles. John Bruce's only twist on this genre is to add a homosexual flight captain trembling under blackmail and/or exposure. Over Wellington, New Zealand, a giant, government-owned passenger jet collides with a small private Cessna being flown by an elderly veterinarian. The jet comes in at 4000 feet, the Cessna at 3000--somehow they meet. Is the vet or the disturbed flight captain responsible? The vet's wife indignantly defends his name during the book's long legal inquiry, but the Prime Minister wants to defend the government against mass suits (this is New Zealand's first major air disaster), and big business is bending all arms to protect its interests. The homosexual captain's panic makes for an effective opening, but, while waiting around for the defective equipment to be located, Bruce falls back on mere voyeurism and routine legal puzzlework.
Have to admit, 'the gays did it' is an unusual spin on the air-crash/disaster porn sub-genre.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
And then there's the other airplane disaster novel, Airframe, which is "the Chinese did it".

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Apraxin posted:

Amazon description:
Kirkus review:

Have to admit, 'the gays did it' is an unusual spin on the air-crash/disaster porn sub-genre.

Inspired by the USS Iowa?

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

And then there's the other airplane disaster novel, Airframe, which is "the Chinese did it".

Wasn’t that based on a real incident in Russia?

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

Glazier posted:

Wasn’t that based on a real incident in Russia?

For people that haven't read it, the pilot lets his son take control of the plane and he fucks up and kills a few people. I'm pretty sure I do remember something like that happening in real life too.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Tagichatn posted:

For people that haven't read it, the pilot lets his son take control of the plane and he fucks up and kills a few people. I'm pretty sure I do remember something like that happening in real life too.

Daniel Johnston (of the famous "Hi how are you" frog drawing and weird songs recorded on cassettes) was institutionalized after he had a psychotic break on a flight with his dad, thought he was Casper the Friendly Ghost, and removed the plane's ignition key and threw it out the window, forcing his dad to crash land in a forest.

He was still in the mental hospital when Kurt Cobain wearing his shirt suddenly made him famous overnight, and record company executives tried to get him to sign a contract from the hospital. He refused the record company Metallica was signed to because he was convinced they were minions of Satan trying to kill him.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Tagichatn posted:

For people that haven't read it, the pilot lets his son take control of the plane and he fucks up and kills a few people. I'm pretty sure I do remember something like that happening in real life too.

I found it, and holy poo poo he didn’t kill a few people he killed everybody onboard!

Wikipedia posted:

Cockpit voice and flight data recorders revealed the presence of the pilot's 12-year-old daughter and 16-year-old son on the flight deck. The son had unknowingly disengaged the A310 autopilot's control over the aircraft's ailerons while seated at the controls. The aircraft rolled into a steep bank and near-vertical dive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JayShams/status/919673803579559938

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I read all four (as there were then) Dan Brown books just after The Da Vinci Code was published and it was generating all kinds of controversy. However, the one thing I remember after all these years is how the requisite weirdo Bond villain henchman in Digital Fortress was a deaf Spanish assassin - that's his defining characteristic, his deafness, and the book states in no uncertain terms that he has been deaf since he was a child - who meets his demise when he's distracted by a loud noise.

Barry Bluejeans
Feb 2, 2017

ATTENTHUN THITIZENTH
PYF Terrible Book: just remember the wise words of Disney's Princess Elsa

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Wheat Loaf posted:

I read all four (as there were then) Dan Brown books just after The Da Vinci Code was published and it was generating all kinds of controversy. However, the one thing I remember after all these years is how the requisite weirdo Bond villain henchman in Digital Fortress was a deaf Spanish assassin - that's his defining characteristic, his deafness, and the book states in no uncertain terms that he has been deaf since he was a child - who meets his demise when he's distracted by a loud noise.

I've heard that before & it sounds hilarious. Pls c/p the relevant part!

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
Here's a fun snippet from the first chapter of Da Vinci Code

quote:

A voice spoke, chillingly close. "Do not move."

On his hands and knees, the curator froze, turning his head slowly.

Only fifteen feet away, outside the sealed gate, the mountainous silhouette of his attacker stared through the iron bars. He was broad and tall, with ghost-pale skin and thinning white hair. His irises were pink with dark red pupils.
I'm the curator who froze and turned his head simultaneously.

No wait, i'm the silhouette filled with visible detail, like the distinctive irises in my eyes.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I also like the 15 chillingly close feet

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Wheat Loaf posted:

I read all four (as there were then) Dan Brown books just after The Da Vinci Code was published and it was generating all kinds of controversy. However, the one thing I remember after all these years is how the requisite weirdo Bond villain henchman in Digital Fortress was a deaf Spanish assassin - that's his defining characteristic, his deafness, and the book states in no uncertain terms that he has been deaf since he was a child - who meets his demise when he's distracted by a loud noise.

Digital Fortress is an amazing concept - someone comes up with an unbreakable code, the government freaks the gently caress out.

Everything else about that book, though, is complete and absolute dog poo poo. God drat it sucks.

On the other hand, Deception Point had a private military runway, a puzzling fact I somehow still recall ten years after my last reading of the book.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
can I be the attacker behind a sealed iron gate?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FrozenVent posted:

On the other hand, Deception Point had a private military runway, a puzzling fact I somehow still recall ten years after my last reading of the book.

The main thing I remember about Deception Point was how the requisite Bond villain henchmen are a team of nameless Delta Force operatives who at one point attack the heroes in Antarctica using guns that can compress snow into ice bullets; Brown dutifully informs us in the end-notes that this is 100% real technology which is regularly used by the US military today.

Said Delta Force guys all get eaten by sharks at the end.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Wheat Loaf posted:

The main thing I remember about Deception Point was how the requisite Bond villain henchmen are a team of nameless Delta Force operatives who at one point attack the heroes in Antarctica using guns that can compress snow into ice bullets; Brown dutifully informs us in the end-notes that this is 100% real technology which is regularly used by the US military today.

Said Delta Force guys all get eaten by sharks at the end.

They're the ones whose hypersonic spy plane land on the private military runway!

Also the who point of the book is that someone is faking a meteorite in an ice cap because... funding?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FrozenVent posted:

Also the who point of the book is that someone is faking a meteorite in an ice cap because... funding?

Yeah, the main character is a CIA analyst whose estranged father is this hard-right senator who's running for president and one of the main planks of his campaign is that the government spends too much money on NASA; he's conspiring with a bunch of J.R. Ewing knock-offs who want to mine asteroids and print Pepsi logos on the sides of space shuttles (which I'm pretty sure already happened anyway); then there's loads of back-and-forth about NASA announcing they've discovered the ice cap meteorite you mentioned and it has microscopic alien life in it, then it's revealed to be a fake, then it's revealed to not be a fake, but then it actually is a fake. At the end of the novel, the bad guy senator (who actually has nothing to do at all with the conspiracy) is defeated when his aide replaces photographs he was going to present to the media (which were going to be bad news with the president or something) with spy photos of her having sex with him.

The book ends, as do all Dan Brown novels, with the not-classically-handsome-but-actually-classically-handsome dashing male lead having sex with the main character, except they do it in the White House while he's wearing the president's pyjamas. I'm not sure why I remembered that bit. :shrug:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
That's right up there with Dirk whatshisface having sex with the heroine in a stateroom aboard the just-raised titanic.

Oh yeah, a mattress that's been underwater for sixty years! It's bone time!

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

FMguru posted:

No wait, i'm the silhouette filled with visible detail, like the distinctive irises in my eyes.
The ghost-pale silhouette.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


FrozenVent posted:

That's right up there with Dirk whatshisface having sex with the heroine in a stateroom aboard the just-raised titanic.

Oh yeah, a mattress that's been underwater for sixty years! It's bone time!

I haven't read the one in question but you must mean Dirk Pitt. Hoooo boy those are some unrepentant trash.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

food court bailiff posted:

I haven't read the one in question but you must mean Dirk Pitt. Hoooo boy those are some unrepentant trash.

One of the books ends with him celebrating his victory over a Hitler-Clone-Cult-Cruise-Company by flushing Hitler's remaining jizz down a toilet.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think that was Hitler's ashes, and it was a toilet in the White House. Also the Nazis were based in Atlantis.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

FrozenVent posted:

Digital Fortress is an amazing concept - someone comes up with an unbreakable code, the government freaks the gently caress out.

Everything else about that book, though, is complete and absolute dog poo poo. God drat it sucks.

On the other hand, Deception Point had a private military runway, a puzzling fact I somehow still recall ten years after my last reading of the book.

One of the key puzzles in Digital Fortress is "The prime difference between Hiroshima and Nagasaki".

The answer is three, which is hilarious because it's also wrong.

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

by SA Support Robot
*writes thousands of articles about how Dirk Pitt novels being poo poo means every boat owner is a racist*

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Wheat Loaf posted:

The main thing I remember about Deception Point was how the requisite Bond villain henchmen are a team of nameless Delta Force operatives who at one point attack the heroes in Antarctica using guns that can compress snow into ice bullets; Brown dutifully informs us in the end-notes that this is 100% real technology which is regularly used by the US military today.

Said Delta Force guys all get eaten by sharks at the end.

This sounds just like a Matthew Reilly novel, a comparison that manages to insult both parties.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Reilly's version has a special forces free-for-all in an Antarctic base where the British have freeze grenades, the French have crossbows, and the Americans have grappling hook guns.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
My dad is a huge Clive Cussler fan and he loves the Dirk Pitt novels, but I don't think I've ever had any inclination to read one even though mainstream adventure fiction is the sort of thing I would ordinarily enjoy.

Wheat Loaf has a new favorite as of 12:38 on Oct 17, 2017

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Everyone should read Raise the Titanic! at least once, as it's the quintessential illustration of how commercial success does not correlate to quality.

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

*writes thousands of articles about how Dirk Pitt novels being poo poo means every boat owner is a racist*
That windmill won't even know what hit it.

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