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lazerus06 posted:Don't see why not, I see no FAQ that states otherwise and the card doesn't stipulate you can't. The card does say "once per round" though.
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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IronSaber posted:The card does say "once per round" though. Each 1 is used once per round.
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enigmahfc posted:Each 1 is used once per round. Right, and all 3 stress would always have to come off the same ship(Norra) and never himself (Cassian).
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Oct 13, 2017 21:54
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Alrighty then. If it works, then it works!
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Oct 13, 2017 21:55
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There are lots of small dumb combos like that which would be fun in the right setting. Rage/R4-D6 Norra sounds bomb as hell but don't take it to a tournament if you want to win.
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Double post don't care.quote:Q4 kits. Horton, OGP, and Illicit Tokens. 100% poo poo I need to get four of those and run the Space Cows again.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Double post don't care. Horton's great gently caress the haters
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Horton's great gently caress the haters Y-Wing: •Horton Salm (37) Guidance Chips (0) Twin Laser Turret (6) Extra Munitions (2) Plasma Torpedoes (3) R2 Astromech (1) Y-Wing: •"Dutch" Vander (37) Guidance Chips (0) Twin Laser Turret (6) Proton Torpedoes (4) Extra Munitions (2) Targeting Astromech (2) X-Wing: •Biggs Darklighter (26) Integrated Astromech (0) •R4-D6 (1) Total: 100/100 I want to believe.
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Horton with Wedge and Airen in a PS10 alpha strike is a kick in the pants. By far my favorite alpha list Edit: Two inspiring recruits can pull off 3 stress instead of 1 for the same reason why 2 Recon Specialist crew on the same ship only gets you 3 focus when you take a focus action canyoneer fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Wish this kit was Q1 so i could have used it when i ran Horton in store champs
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enigmahfc posted:The gently caress is OGP? Yeah you know me
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Omicron group pilot aka the pope mobile
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I spent the day at the Tulsa Pop Expo (basically Tulsa's Comic Con event) demoing X-Wing. I think my highlight of the day was teaching this 8-year-old boy how to play. He was so excited for EVERYTHING. He got a hit through on one of my TIEs? BEST THING EVER. He got hit by one of my TIEs? ALSO THE BEST THING EVER. Any ship exploded? I LIED NOW THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER.
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ConfusedUs posted:I spent the day at the Tulsa Pop Expo (basically Tulsa's Comic Con event) demoing X-Wing. That is THE BEST THING EVER! I've been playing with my five year old using the starter rules and the excitement he has at getting to move Luke Skywalker around (he has seen zero Star Wars movies). Looking forward to blowing his mind and letting him play Poe in Black One if I ever pickup Heroes of the Resistance. That being said his only loss was when we used the FA set instead of the original core. I'm thinking Luke is OP.
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I finally got another chance to wing some Xes with Corbeau and he flew Tomax Bren over so many rocks that he did twice as much damage as I did. I won that game; I was flying 4 A-Wings. I really like Intensity on Jake and I prefer it to PtL.
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Iron_Chef posted:That is THE BEST THING EVER! I've been playing with my five year old using the starter rules and the excitement he has at getting to move Luke Skywalker around (he has seen zero Star Wars movies). Most of the T-65 pilots (I would argue all) have good abilities but are hamstrung by the godawful T-65 itself, as well as the growing power creep.
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X-wing 2.0 leak - every ship has +2 hull.
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This won our store championship. I had a rough night shift the day before, so I didn't end up going after all. Poe Dameron (PS9) (33) Intensity (2) BB-8 (2) Primed Thrusters (1) Autothrusters (2) Black One (1) Nien Nunb (29) Snap Shot (2) R3-A2 (2) Integrated Astromech (0) Biggs Darklighter (25) R4-D6 (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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Hannibal Rex posted:This won our store championship. I had a rough night shift the day before, so I didn't end up going after all. I really love that particular loadout for Nien Numb. It's easily my favorite Rebel ship.
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I found out last night that Emon Assman with the Adestra title, bombardier, and Bomblet may be my favorite trollish bombing ship in the game now. Whipping bombs around or dropping them at range 1,2, or ,3 was surprisingly satisfying.
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ConfusedUs posted:I really love that particular loadout for Nien Numb. It's easily my favorite Rebel ship. I like it even more with Pattern Analyzer added in.
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Scum and Villainy podcast just did an interview with designers Max, Alex and Frank. They ask about design decisions, why they choose to nerf things, how they address balance, and the design cycle. Some highlights: When asked why they've left the poor T-65 and TIE fighter behind, they responded that the X-Wing was always pretty crappy. Even from the beginning in Wave 1, "the only reason it saw early success was that people hadn't figured out it's a better idea to put 7 or 8 TIE fighters on the table". Costing things, they said there's not a good formula for costing a ship, because the table presence/interactions are a big X factor that they have a lot of discretion on but can't accurately predict. They admit that the power of cloaking/decloaking at PS9 with Whisper didn't seem as powerful when they were testing it as it ended up being. They talked about how their decision to errata/balance things is based on both whether something is overpowered, and also how it fits into design intentions and core mechanics of what they want the game to be. Cloaking as it was sorta screwed that up, because ships at PS9 and below moving first allowed the Phantom to pull the ripcord and escape by decloaking. This took away the guessing game function of trying to predict maneuvers. Talked about bombs, how they went from a useless mechanic that nobody used to something that everyone uses and now is mad about. And also how they like to wait and see how things shake out, especially with new releases coming down the pipe. Players whined about getting a Palpatine nerf, and now are whining about un-nerfing it. When asked if Harpoon Missiles were going to totally remove TIE swarms, they responded that assault missiles already exist, and they're not the reason why TIE swarms aren't around anymore. If it's already out of the meta, why does it matter if a new upgrade kills it even more? Another point was that they developed/costed Kylo Ren when there were no successful 2 ship builds (~18 months before release). Seeing what an impact Kylo Ren on VI RAC has on the current 2 ships builds, they said they may have priced it differently or worded it differently, and didn't expect the negative reaction they got. They asked about modeling the game in machine learning/AI models to work out balance stuff. Devs asked how much it would cost, and didn't sound interested. They said that 4 ship rebels/Lowhhrick/Biggs is on their watchlist, and that nobody had come up with the 4 ship list in testing. They were pretty sure that the Wookie Gunship was going to be a dud and totally suck due to no K-turn and no stop, so they costed it aggressively for the statline.
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What I gathered from that is their playtest team is not very creative. This thread had Fair Ship Rebels in basic form practically hours after the gunship reveal article.
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Strobe posted:What I gathered from that is their playtest team is not very creative. This thread had Fair Ship Rebels in basic form practically hours after the gunship reveal article. Honestly, I believe the playtest team works these things out. I just don't believe the designers listen. I also believe that some playtesters have pet hates that the designers have grown tired f hearing about, which might be why...
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I kinda figured the Low-Biggs interaction would be pretty obvious to anyone who saw it but I could buy them not seeing the full Fair Ship package.
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So the devs are fine with T65 with bad, release ships they think will suck but say 'gently caress it do it anyway', can't think of the most obvious of interactions/combos, and would prefer to just let bombs play out for a while longer before doing anything. Good job guys.
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Panzeh posted:I kinda figured the Low-Biggs interaction would be pretty obvious to anyone who saw it but I could buy them not seeing the full Fair Ship package. Yeah Biggs is mentioned in the original Auzituck article (https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/6/9/defenders-of-kashyyyk/). My guess is they thought of Low/Biggs/Rex, but didn't consider a 4th ship with DTF somehow.
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enigmahfc posted:So the devs are fine with T65 with bad, release ships they think will suck but say 'gently caress it do it anyway', can't think of the most obvious of interactions/combos, and would prefer to just let bombs play out for a while longer before doing anything. Good job guys. This. I haven't listen to it myself, but if the account of what was said is accurate, what the gently caress? This is my first tabletop game so I am an idiot, but it seems crazy that they would realize something would be a dud and not give a poo poo. I don't understand in a game called X-WING that they would be so flippant about a ship called X-wing.
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canyoneer posted:
That is some malarkey right there. Heaver is a tester and a couple of days after release he flew that list at a store championships. Either FFG is lying or the testers are not reporting stuff they want to run. Heck in a podcast right before release he said the Wookiee gunship was the only thing he was getting on day 1. In other news the stores have been selected for the Australian regionals. Hall of Hero's has the NSW regional. Don't know about the other states. Would be shocked if ThreeD6 did not have the ACT regional. Now to decide where to blow my 1st round bye. Raged fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Raged posted:That is some malarkey right there. Heaver is a tester and a couple of days after release he flew that list at a store championships. Either FFG is lying or the testers are not reporting stuff they want to run. Heck in a podcast right before release he said the Wookiee gunship was the only thing he was getting on day 1. I honestly think the playtesters are being ignored or withholding poo poo, neither of which we can prove but both are pretty bad. I think I love this game despite the developers being bad at their jobs. Tekopo posted:To be fair, they weren't actually designing the game Edit: and this is neither here nor there, but I have a burning hatred for anyone who uses the term, "The Mouse" when referring to Disney, especially when they think it's "The Mouse'" that's controlling XWM. I heard someone say this is real life once, and I was just sort of stunned into silence. TIE Silence enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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I think they do care for the game, but they want it to keep making money via new ships and abilities. If the game had Wave 1 ships and upgrades still doing well and winning tournaments, it's a possibility players wouldn't buy new stuff as much. Sure, there's those that want to buy the ships for the sake that they look cool or do something different, but the company needs to make money and look like they're doing something. The way I've viewed X-Wing is a lot like auto racing. NASCAR cars and F1 cars on the same track is completely different from each other, and maybe F1 cars would completely dominate against nascar cars. But when you create a series with specific rules, then those cars within the series can compete. 100 point matchups without any other restrictions and of course you'll see lists that are designed to win as best as possible. Sadly, the X-Wing barring Biggs isn't going to see table time because it can't perform well against the newer ships, but in certain series it can do well against others. Basically 100 point tournaments are the equivalent of letting anyone bring any sort of race car to a track without any limitations and complaining that a super car is dominating a minivan.
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Ringo Star Get posted:I think they do care for the game, but they want it to keep making money via new ships and abilities. If the game had Wave 1 ships and upgrades still doing well and winning tournaments, it's a possibility players wouldn't buy new stuff as much. Sure, there's those that want to buy the ships for the sake that they look cool or do something different, but the company needs to make money and look like they're doing something. why does the x-wing, the ship the game is named after, have to be the minivan in that analogy
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Improbable Lobster posted:Machine learning stuff generally sucks rear end for anything besides generating funny names so I don't really see much value for it for playtesting Yes. 
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