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Bongo Bill posted:So what I realize about The Phantom Menace is that it violates one of the sacred covenants of pop entertainment: it lacks an aspirational audience surrogate protagonist. This is not actually a problem, of course, but it's disorienting if you come in expecting to find someone cool to project yourself onto and you find the only one with a Campbellian arc is Goofy. It's a weird movie in that regard. Obi Wan is kinda just hanging out for half of it.
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well why not posted:It's a weird movie in that regard. Obi Wan is kinda just hanging out for half of it. In the first drafts, Obi-Wan was essentially playing the role of Qui-Gon, which is sort of reflected in your observation. I think Lucas ended up scrapping that because it didn't give Obi-Wan much of a dynamic to play off of, and the age difference between him and Anakin might've been a little screwy.
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Waffles Inc. posted:"Shut him up or shut him down" Don’t be disingenuous, the poster referenced Threepio being pacified directly by being physically deactivated and that JarJar likewise received a Jedi equivalent from Qui-Gon as a callback to the asteroid chase. Being told to shut up is not in the same ball park as being rendered completely senseless, nor the kind of rhyming scene comparison that was being claimed.
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Bongo Bill posted:So what I realize about The Phantom Menace is that it violates one of the sacred covenants of pop entertainment: it lacks an aspirational audience surrogate protagonist. This is not actually a problem, of course, but it's disorienting if you come in expecting to find someone cool to project yourself onto and you find the only one with a Campbellian arc is Goofy. This is also known as terrible scriptwriting.
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viral spiral posted:This is also known as terrible scriptwriting. Actually, those two concepts are unrelated.
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viral spiral posted:This is also known as terrible scriptwriting. Do you believe any script which lacks an aspirational protagonist is terrible?
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Saw this preposterousness at the LEGO Store yesterday. Nearly 8,000 pieces. An instruction booklet 500 pages long. 34 hours to complete it on average. The size of a god damned coffee table. 800 bucks. 
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What's the point of buying it if it's already put together
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At least it comes with both radar dishes. And porrrrrrgs
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Pfft, that thing is amateur hour. Also looks really silly.  Bandai Perfect Grade 1/72 out later this year  You can also subscribe to a partwork, where they send you a few bits every month to build the 1:1 ESB movie prop Falcon: https://www.model-space.com/us/build-millennium-falcon.html
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Taintrunner posted:You can also subscribe to a partwork, where they send you a few bits every month to build the 1:1 ESB movie prop Falcon: https://www.model-space.com/us/build-millennium-falcon.html Wasn't that a plot point in MASH?
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The spinoffs continue to display their boundless creativity and imagination.
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What a stupid loving name
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GonSmithe posted:What a stupid loving name Right? They gave him that name even though he has a sidekick?
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I JUDGE THE QUALITY OF A FILM BASED ON ITS TITLE
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Not judging the quality of the film, that's just a really stupid name for a movie
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GonSmithe posted:Not judging the quality of the film, that's just a really stupid name for a movie Yeah, the only thing we can do with a title at this point is try to use it to determine something about what the movie could be about. The Last Jedi created a conversation. This tells us, "This movie has Han Solo. Boring. Like, if I was being super generous, maybe they're saying that he is particularly alone at the start of this movie, and it's about letting people in. But that's pure speculation. What he have is his last name. Meh.
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Both of the standalones reference their standalone nature in their titles.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Both of the standalones reference their standalone nature in their titles. Maybe that means they'll stop doing them sooner rather than later. Maybe we'll be done after Fett, Alone and Maul By Myself.
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homullus posted:Maybe that means they'll stop doing them sooner rather than later. Maybe we'll be done after Fett, Alone and Maul By Myself. Obi-Wan is the Loneliest Jedi.
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Obi-One
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I wanted to know the title of the movie, not the tomato score!!
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SULU: A STAR WARS Story would be better
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Harry Potter and the Lords of the Sith
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it wouldn't be a star wars movie without a bunch of people weirdly complaining about the title
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Rogue One The Last Jedi Solo Wow, a lot of singular titles focused on a "one." What could this mean for the Disney Wars? *wavy hands*
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At least it’s not Solo: Origins or Solo: Rising.
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Shoulda just gone the Indiana Jones route and been Han Solo and the Spice Mines of Kessel.
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Gonz posted:At least it’s not Solo: Origins or Solo: Rising. It could have been a Solo Bolo though
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Snooze Cruise posted:It could have been a Solo Bolo though gently caress
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feedmyleg posted:Shoulda just gone the Indiana Jones route and been Han Solo and the Spice Mines of Kessel. I thought this too, but then, that's a really pulpy title and may not be the tone of the movie.
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Solo is a genre of porn.
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Sabaac: Idiot’s Array
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The Kessel Run: A Star Wars Story Flight of the Falcon: A Star Wars Story How I Found My Iconic Blaster: A Star Wars Story Hey Kid, I Heard You Like Star Wars: A Star Wars Story Gonz posted:Sabaac: Idiot’s Array drat fine reference.
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I just hope Sheev Palpatine, the greatest Starwar character, makes a cameo when Han and Chewie stop off at Naboo for fuel and some drinks.
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Yea I'll be interested to see what pointless fan service gets shoehorned into this one, it's a bit trickier because it's at time period where most of the obvious references would be from the prequels. Maybe I'm wrong though, how old is Han even supposed to be in the OT? Are we talking about like a 15 year gap here or is this movie only supposed to take place like 5 years before the OT?
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I'll be interested to see what pointless fan service gets shoehorned into this one, it's a bit trickier because it's at time period where most of the obvious references would be from the prequels. He's 29/30 in ANH IIRC. Yes, that does mean he's a 30 year old hitting on a 19 year old.
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