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Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005


I see numerous Workcover issues.

Snype

Capt.Whorebags fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Oct 17, 2017

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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

rubbish. we all know the poet kids should be studying:

https://twitter.com/clivefpalmer/status/862392118945341441

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Doing my HSC on Journey i'd likely back then wanted to kill the examiners rather than the text writers. Questions so vacuous and vapid.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Lid posted:

Questions so vacuous and vapid.
that is what you wrote on your exam paper, isn't it.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Syrian democratic forces have captured the Islamic State capital.

Mission Accomplished

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Anidav posted:

Syrian democratic forces have captured the Islamic State capital.

Mission Accomplished

Now they can talk about the dangers of displaced radicals and returned ISIS soldiers who can only be stopped by creating a police state

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

The future is bright.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

the old ceremony posted:

that is what you wrote on your exam paper, isn't it.

i hope i did

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002


oooohh, coal is sexy! I get it now! ok adani, go ahead

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Australians have swung behind the case for same-sex marriage in a strong sign the Yes campaign will prevail in the postal survey on the social reform, with 59 per cent support among those who have already cast their votes.

A special Newspoll shows the Yes campaign has a formidable lead among the millions of Australians who have sent in their postal votes, with only 38 per cent voting No.

Advocates for traditional marriage face a gap so great that they can only succeed by winning three out of every four remaining votes.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Anidav posted:

Actually Sky News is alright. I mean the plot to make Sky News into Channel 10 failed and Thank God for that but you know I find David Speers more tolerable to watch than say, Chris Uhlmann.

Then again the channel is on all day at work and during business hours Bolt ect aren't on so it's more like ABC 24.

Yeah if people like Speers or Van Onselen are on it's fine. Speers is pretty good, and without him we wouldn't have got things like Brandis' metadata interveiw. It's only when you get to the evenings and it's the right wing wank fest with Bolt and Paul "THAT MAN" Murray that it's unwatchable.

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

The plot to roll Ten into Sky News and make Sky News the Australian Fox News was visible for quite some time, you could even see it from Lachlan Murdoch's lovely lovely management decisions tanking the share price so that they could eventually bankrupt it and be "acquired" by the Murdoch clan.

It came out a few weeks ago that the former management team from Ten carefully put words in their content contract with CBS that gave CBS the lions share of negotiating power in the event the company tanked. That's how they got the chance to take it over at the expense of the Murdochs.

The Fox News pitch works well in the US because of how divisive it already was 20 years ago when it started, but Australian politics aren't as black and white (yet). It is a fairly simple marketing play though - if a significant percentage of your population believes X, despite X being patently untrue, and there is no "news" network servicing that belief, then what's stopping you from doing so?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

hooman posted:

Speaking from experience working with them in oil and gas their ability to royally gently caress up isn't limited to their marketing department.

Also Tom Tilley fell off a dirtbike and broke his arm and his leg. I'm not saying it's because he did both sides fencesitting bullshit with Nazis I'm just saying if karma did exist smashing two limbs seems about right.

looks like he wasn't taken on the Client Liaison world tour so he got even

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Interesting stuff on mortgages etc. I am in the torn position of knowing that any kind of crash would probably gently caress our economy for decades, and yet also sorta-kinda hoping for one because I'm going to want to buy soon.

Maybe it's because I'm turning 30 soon and the lust to acquire property is beginning to be injected into my veins, but I've started looking at apartments and have been startled to realise I can actually afford one, assuming the status quo holds out, which is not something I ever thought would be the case. I pay about $1250 in rent a month at the moment and usually save $800ish a month, and there are plenty of places which - if I used my life savings of about 35k as a deposit - would stick me on a mortgage of around $1500. Which is eminently achievable when I consider the only thing I'm really saving money for these days is a home.

The thing that stops me from doing that (apart from not wanting to be in my current overpaid job forever, and a fear of interest rate rises) is fear of the bubble. Fear that any given apartment in this country is massively overpriced, and that I might lock myself into an enormous mortgage and then be left holding the baby next year.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

I've been getting lots of emails from "Sarah" and "Jess" lately. They all know my name, email address and places close to where I live. Those places turned out to be Dominos stores I've ordered at.

Example emails:

Mark, it is Sarah, are you in Warnersbay?


What's up? Mark, it's Sarah from Swansea, my active e-mail.


Mark, Hello, it's Jess! Do you live in Warnersbay?

Today I called Dominos corporate (07 3633 33 33) and expressed my concerns to the lady who picked up, and she was clearly familiar with the issue. She had a guy called Nathan call me back, who:

Confirmed that they had passed on my details to a secondary "supplier" company, who had been hacked
Would not tell me who that company was
Would not say why the "supplier" had that data
Would not say whether that data was transferred or sold
Confirmed they were investigating the issue with "experts"
Informed me that they had made a public release in the form of a Facebook post, and had no further plans to announce the breach at this point (waiting on the "Experts")
Disclosed they had no intention to email affected customers to inform them of the breach when discovered, or at this point
Confirmed they were no longer using the affected supplier
Had no indication of whether a public statement would be made outside of social media or customers would be contacted at the conclusion of the "expert" investigation (he really loved the 'e' word)
Confirmed no payment details had been stolen.
Confirmed the details alleged (name, email, ordering store) had been stolen
Was waiting on (you guessed it) the "experts" to confirm other data that was or was not available to the supplier, and consequently stolen.

If you're concerned, it's worth emailing privacy@dominos.com.au to:

Get full disclosure of any details they have about you
Request your data be removed, if you wish
Ask why the hell they didn't bother telling you


https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/..._name=australia

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I want to see a crash because it will bring me pleasure to watch Australians suffer.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I want to see a crash here, I posted this morning in the Canada thread, the literal cheapest property here that isn't a timeshare or a hotel room is $350,000 and it's around 27sqm large. Rent is expensive and places to rent are impossible to find, but it's also impossible to buy.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I got those emails too

Lol domino's

But also that loving addictive cheese crust.

Totally worth my privacy!

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I hope rural/regional prices go down too. I thought about moving to the country, but even away from jobs and services prices are outrageous.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I saw a job in Geelong and it made me think "hmmmm decent money and cheaper property", then I came to my senses.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."
I want to see a crash because most of my networth is in foreign currency and I'm guessing the fallout will be isolated to our own shores.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

hiddenmovement posted:

I want to see a crash because most of my networth is in foreign currency and I'm guessing the fallout will be isolated to our own shores.

I don't think a local library's worth of manga counts as foreign currency.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

hiddenmovement posted:

I want to see a crash because most of my networth is in foreign currency and I'm guessing the fallout will be isolated to our own shores.
I'm predicting a networth outage.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Crown Casino 'tampered' with poker machines, former staff allege, as Andrew Wilkie tables claims in Parliament

Crown Casino deliberately tampered with poker machines, and turned a blind eye to illicit drug use and domestic violence, whistleblowers have alleged in damning evidence tabled in Federal Parliament.

The video evidence includes allegations from three former staff at Victoria's only casino, who accused Crown of forcing staff to remove betting options from pokies, and to "shave down" buttons on gaming machines to allow illegal continuous play on the machines, independent MP Andrew Wilkie said.

Under state rules, the practice of allowing a machine to spin without a user pressing a button for each spin is banned.

But the former staff alleged they were instructed to use tools to shave down buttons on new machines to create space for punters to wedge something next to them, so the buttons could be held in place and keep the machine playing continuously.

Mr Wilkie tabled the allegations, including a 30-minute recorded interview with the three whistleblowers, in what is believed to be the first case of video evidence being tabled in Federal Parliament.

The testimony was recorded as part of "PokieLeaks", a campaign launched by Mr Wilkie and fellow independent Nick Xenophon to expose illicit practices in the industry.

The explosive allegations come as the Victorian Government conducts its five-yearly review of Crown Casino's licence.

More to come.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-18/crown-casino-poker-machine-allegations-tabled-andrew-wilkie/9056964

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

If it’s illegal why isn’t illegal to make a machine that doesn’t require the button to be released between spins????

Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

norp posted:

If it’s illegal why isn’t illegal to make a machine that doesn’t require the button to be released between spins????

Ban full auto assault pokies

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
They need to make pachinko a thing in this country so I can play through that Metal Gear Solid 3 remake.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Pachinko is somehow even more obnoxious than the pokies. I don't know how anyone spends more than five minutes in one of that places without going deaf.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Former Rio Tinto CEO Tom Albanese, ex-CFO Guy Elliott charged with fraud by SEC

The US sharemarket regulator has charged Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto and two of its former top executives with fraud for inflating the value of Mozambique coal assets acquired in 2011 for $US3.7 billion ($4.65 billion) and sold a few years later for $US50 million.

The complaint by the Securities and Exchange Commission, filed in federal court in Manhattan on Tuesday, alleges that Rio Tinto, its former chief executive Thomas Albanese, and its former chief financial officer Guy Elliott failed to follow accounting standards and company policies to accurately value and record its assets.

:gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz:

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

norp posted:

If it’s illegal why isn’t illegal to make a machine that doesn’t require the button to be released between spins????

They legally have to have a 6hr shutdown every 24hrs but they don't have any functionality in the machines at all to allow for a scheduling of lockout from play.

When I suggested that surely these high tech machines are capable of disabling play set on a schedule, to match the legislation, I was basically laughed out of the meeting with the manufacturers.

The only way one of the venues I work for could stop people from playing during 6hr down time was to either turn off all the machines (which meant opening up 150+ machines and switching them off individually, as shutting down via the circuit breaker hosed with the power distribution in the building) was to change the business hours to match the shutdown window.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

quote:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/oct/18/energy-battle-turns-to-the-states-as-the-sell-heats-up-politics-live
The Turnbull government will today introduce legislative reforms to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Act to enhance the ABC’s commitment to rural and regional Australia and require its news services to be fair and balanced.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation Amendment (Rural and Regional Measures) Bill 2017 will implement reforms championed by Senator Bridget McKenzie to enshrine a formal commitment to rural and regional Australia in the ABC’s charter. The bill also requires the ABC to consult on changes affecting rural and regional audiences, through the establishment of a regional advisory council.

The bill will also require there be at least two members of the ABC board with a substantial connection to, or substantial experience in, a regional area through business, industry or community involvement. The government would already satisfy this obligation through its appointments to date. The bill also introduces greater transparency by requiring a number of additional particulars to be included in its Annual Report. These amendments will ensure the ABC has an even greater focus on, and regard for, the needs of rural and regional communities.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation Amendment (Fair and Balanced) Bill 2017 will require news and information to be ‘fair’ and ‘balanced’, in addition to the already legislated requirement to be ‘accurate and impartial according to the recognised standards of objective journalism’.

The bill seeks to legislate what the ABC already expects of itself. The ABC’s own editorial policies already cover ‘fair treatment’, as well as requiring ‘a balance that follows the weight of evidence’. And the MEAA’s journalistic code of ethics refers to ‘fairness’ no less than six times.

The amendments will cement the standards expected by Australian taxpayers.

No doubt this will prevent them from inviting IPA/CIS shills onto Life Matters every morning.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

freebooter posted:

Interesting stuff on mortgages etc. I am in the torn position of knowing that any kind of crash would probably gently caress our economy for decades, and yet also sorta-kinda hoping for one because I'm going to want to buy soon.

Maybe it's because I'm turning 30 soon and the lust to acquire property is beginning to be injected into my veins, but I've started looking at apartments and have been startled to realise I can actually afford one, assuming the status quo holds out, which is not something I ever thought would be the case. I pay about $1250 in rent a month at the moment and usually save $800ish a month, and there are plenty of places which - if I used my life savings of about 35k as a deposit - would stick me on a mortgage of around $1500. Which is eminently achievable when I consider the only thing I'm really saving money for these days is a home.

The thing that stops me from doing that (apart from not wanting to be in my current overpaid job forever, and a fear of interest rate rises) is fear of the bubble. Fear that any given apartment in this country is massively overpriced, and that I might lock myself into an enormous mortgage and then be left holding the baby next year.

Be, very, very very, careful about buying an apartment. Not only are they pretty much all built to the shittest possible standards but if you are in Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne the market for them (particularly in inner city areas) is flooded with stock.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-15/house-prices-should-first-home-owners-buy-an-apartment/9033788

If any segment of the property market is going to implode heavily it will be the apartment market.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/920403190415101952

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Periphery posted:

Be, very, very very, careful about buying an apartment. Not only are they pretty much all built to the shittest possible standards but if you are in Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne the market for them (particularly in inner city areas) is flooded with stock.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-15/house-prices-should-first-home-owners-buy-an-apartment/9033788

If any segment of the property market is going to implode heavily it will be the apartment market.

My response to anyone who says I should buy one of the over-priced, over-supplied apartments in Melbourne right now is to do the giant golden Homer laugh.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




quote:

The bill will also require there be at least two members of the ABC board with a substantial connection to, or substantial experience in, a regional area through business, industry or community involvement. 

Spoiler alert; it's gonna be industry/business. coal mine owners.


quote:

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation Amendment (Fair and Balanced) Bill 2017 will require news and information to be ‘fair’ and ‘balanced’

Hmmmm. Hey, you know those independent reports that keep showing the ABC is actually just a tiny bit right of centre in coverage... :ninja:

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 18, 2017

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

MikeJF posted:

Spoiler alert; it's gonna be industry/business. coal mine owners.

The commitment is already met and it's already being met by these kinds of people.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Guadian Live Blog posted:

It looks like Peter Dutton’s controversial citizenship bill will be struck from the Senate notice paper this evening.

Last month, the Senate voted to give Dutton until today, 18 Wednesday, to bring his bill on for debate in the Senate because they were tired of him telling voters how crucial his bill was while simultaneously withholding it from the Senate so it couldn’t be debated.

His office has reached out to key members of the Nick Xenophon Team in the last few days to talk about making amendments to the bill, but it all seems too late.

It was the NXT that derailed Dutton’s attempt last month to enact his citizenship laws, saying they could not support the bill package in its current form.

It meant the government would have to either dump the package completely, or make substantial changes, to get the bill through parliament.

In yesterday’s Coalition party room meeting, Dutton told his colleagues that he would amend the citizenship package.

Guardian Australia has been told his office has been talking about reducing the English language test from level six (university standard) to level 5, and to amend the retrospective elements of the bill that have caused consternation.

But those amendments would still not be enough to persuade the NXT to come onboard.

The NXT has previously said the bill is “fundamentally flawed” and needs considerable redrafting.

One of their major complaints is that Dutton wants to give himself - and subsequent immigration ministers - the power to overrule decisions by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal on citizenship matters.

That aspect of the bill does not appear to have been part of recent discussions about amendments.

The Greens have not been contacted by Dutton’s office in the last week. They expect the bill will be struck from the Senate notice paper this evening.

suck a gently caress potatoman

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Turns out Adani isn't actually investing anything into Australia at all but is instead making inter-company loans and calling that investment with the money funneling back into offshore tax havens..

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/18/web-of-australian-adani-solar-companies-leads-to-offshore-tax-havens

Man good thing we aren't closing all these company tax loopholes!

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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

quote:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/18/labors-industrial-relations-pitch-sham-agreements-and-future-of-work?CMP=share_btn_tw
As well as proposing changes to workplace laws if Labor wins the next election, O’Connor will also flag a new inquiry into the future of work, and the future of workers.

He will argue the emerging gig economy offers some “remarkable benefits” as well as opportunities for new forms of work organisation, but that a lot of the discussion about the evolving labour market “resembles a childlike embrace of the seductive new thing.”

We're hosed.

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