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Ducking a senator's inquiry sounds like a short term dodge to guarantee a colossal rear end gently caress. Well, one can hope, anyway.
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Depends on what inquiry they're ducking. What are you trying to get now that they're dragging their feet on? I'm behind on the army story of Job.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Depends on what inquiry they're ducking. What are you trying to get now that they're dragging their feet on? I'm behind on the army story of Job. Oh boy. So McNally's wife (active) sadly took her own life and her unit not only blamed him, but were completely useless with making sure McNally got his survivor's benefits. They marginalized their effort by claiming to make sure she required suicide prevention without actually taking any steps (like 24-hour watch). McNally has been trying for over a year to go to school, get an ID, and a semblance of his life, however due to the nepotism and overall uselessness of people in power, getting someone to help him has been difficult. He served as well so it is strange why there is so much weird crazy bullshit, but weird poo poo happened to me (just not nearly on that level). So McNally has not gone to press, and stayed silent despite some of us urging him to go public at some point. I think we all collectively agree that most suicide prevention stuff is bullshit anyways, but using that as part of your thesis (the other being 'McNally was a mean person to her. I have never met him nor discussed him with his wife though.') is stupid. They are at fault, they know it, and are reluctant to admit it wasn't handled correctly. So the green weenie hosed him anyway it wanted. Then it got its buddies and hosed him again and again. Now the green weenie isn't returning phone calls and he is saying "hey, can you fix this? You broke it." Luckily he has had support, paperwork to back up his claims, and people willing to listen. We are all rooting for him.
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Don't forget that he got a bill from the hospital charging him for handling her donated organs. That might not be military though, that might just be American healthcare at work. And that they've sent him letters expressing condolences for the loss of [wrong name here].
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Oct 17, 2017 21:08
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i've been keeping up with McNally from the beginning. I knew the backstory. I had some incorrect assumption that he had finally got most of his stuff sorted. I didn't realize that most of the survivor benefits were still up in the air.
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I feel bad every time I laugh at it, but his story's so incredibly hosed up and typically Army that there's really no other emotion that encompasses it than the kind of laughter you get from reading a Kafkaesque dark comedy like Catch 22.
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Oct 17, 2017 21:24
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I believe some correspondence sent condolences for the loss of his daughter. I mean that's pretty much peak army. I mean the whole situation seems like a plot for a cohen film. I can't believe (i literally can because army but loving still) that this poo poo is still unresolved.
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Soulex posted:You know, you make me want to do this art project even more. I meant it as a way for people to get an experience basing judgment on appearances and stuff with the underlying issue of me trying to find my identity, and you kind of solidify that. It makes sense, and i appreciate the pov at all times
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Soulex posted:Oh boy. This is correct in general, but the details are a bit off. My wife's unit didn't blame me, exactly, but during the course of the different investigations they suggested I was lazy and unsupportive. Some of those comments came from people I'd never met, some from people who knew me. As to my part, I probably could have done more. Beyond that they had nothing to do with the story. Her unit, it's worth pointing out, were the ones saying "hey, she needs help" and their higher headquarters said "has she completed suicide prevention training?" I have gotten my benefits, which took awhile because a lot of them depend on the outcome of the LOD investigation, which always take forever. The ID card issue was settled within a month but is noteworthy because the conversation that took place in the office included statements like "deceased soldiers' survivors aren't entitled to benefits past the soldier's ETS date" and "dependent IDs become invalid the moment their sponsor dies," both of which are aggressively false. My real issue is the extent to which casualty assistance seems to be broken. The casualty assistance office I worked with had no idea how to get a W-2. They had no idea how to settle estate matters. They were actively uninterested in helping beyond token lip-service. The only matter that's unresolved is that I've been trying to get a response from the Army saying "yes, this is broken. Here's what we plan on doing." Maybe I'm pissing into the wind, but it burns me up to think that what happened to me will happen to someone else. They've spent the last year telling my senator's office "this isn't us, call the VA about it instead" and that just pisses me off. On that note, I got a phone call this morning from the SES in charge of the Army's suicide prevention program. She said she read my letter and will be making changes and also calling the people in charge of all the ID card stations and casualty assistance to let them know what happened to me. That's all fine and dandy, but this is the person who signed the letter calling my wife the wrong name. At least I know for sure that she's actually read the letter this time. Also, do I really want to go to the press with this? That just opens me up to "hey, these reports say you're a lazy dirtbag who didn't help her either!"
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My dudes what can you send people in BCT now. I realize it's been nearly 15 years so things have probably changed.
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Vasudus posted:My dudes what can you send people in BCT now. I realize it's been nearly 15 years so things have probably changed. If you're not mailing a dude who's currently in basic a suspiciously large package full of gay porn and dildos with "DRILL SERGEANT AIN'T poo poo" written all over the outside of the box, then you're probably a decent human being. In which case you do not belong here.
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Vasudus posted:My dudes what can you send people in BCT now. I realize it's been nearly 15 years so things have probably changed. Only edible things are cough drops, you can mail them because they are considered candy. Besides that, nobody really needs anything. There's only so much you can get and everything else gets tossed or locked away until the end. Books you can send, but they have to be military themed. Good time to send history books, that's what I spent my evenings and other sporadic free time doing.
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Oct 18, 2017 16:48
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Just send them 10LB of Oreos.
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Vasudus posted:My dudes what can you send people in BCT now. I realize it's been nearly 15 years so things have probably changed. Stuffed animals. That way your friend will have a pet with him all the time and never be lonely.
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A care package with full size candy bars and dip. The candy bars are sugar free. The dip cans are glitter bombs. Drill Sgt will learn a valuable lesson in what to do with confiscated items.
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Thanks for the rundown McNally. I thought you were mostly wrapped up and glad to see that's the case. I also understand the trepidation with media coverage and the negative light they may shine on you.
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I should have specified that I'm actually asking for a friend for reals. He's got a nephew that's in BCT right now. Otherwise of course I would have sent a huge box of dildos, god.
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Just send letters. It's three months.
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Oct 18, 2017 17:12
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Yeah, letters sound lame, but they are cool to get and help stay in touch with the world. Maybe a printout of recent headlines from news if that is what they are into, or sports matches, or perhaps gaming news or whatever, use your imagination on what is his interest.
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Oct 18, 2017 17:26
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Send Him a DD-214 blanket so the Drill Sergeants get hella jealous and make his life even more miserable.
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Realtalk letters and news are good. Reminds them that the real world exists and people haven't forgotten about them.
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Yeah, news is good. Bin Laden got got while I was in OSUT and the article about the raid was a hot commodity when someone got it in the mail.
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Just print out every Trump tweet weekly and send it. Can even turn it into a game by removing the date and see if he can piece together the order or context. Like a better version of those brain teasers you get 80 copies in care packages.
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We had a trainee receive a care package that was like 3/4 contraband (high end booze, a big-rear end knife), but it was from his grandpa, and included a picture of grandpa next to his Corsair in Korea between CAS missions for the Pusan perimeter and also some old-school pin-ups that can't be hung up in a government building, but we didn't want to throw it away. So we just put it under lock and key until he graduated and asked him to tell grandpa that the military had changed since the 50s. For basic news and maybe some basic essentials that are nice to have like spare socks/blousers/generic hygeine items. For AIT, YMMV, as AITs have widely varying standards of what they do or don't allow.
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Moleskin motherfuckers. I can't believe you lot forgot moleskin.
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not caring here posted:Moleskin motherfuckers. I can't believe you lot forgot moleskin. I didn't have moleskin so gently caress em
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Real talk, send anyone in Basic Body Glide or Gold Bond Friction Defense. Works miracles for people prone to hot spots or blisters.
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The best basic training package we got was someone who sent a picture of a horses penis fully erect in the middle of random family photos. He had to do push ups with it in front of him shouting out that he loved his brother.
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McNally posted:This is correct in general, but the details are a bit off. My wife's unit didn't blame me, exactly, but during the course of the different investigations they suggested I was lazy and unsupportive. Some of those comments came from people I'd never met, some from people who knew me. As to my part, I probably could have done more. Beyond that they had nothing to do with the story. Her unit, it's worth pointing out, were the ones saying "hey, she needs help" and their higher headquarters said "has she completed suicide prevention training?" Sorry I fudged some stuff up. I forgot what got resolved and some other things. As for the press thing, people could use that sure, but if it wasn't true and you have people that could back that, it appears as an attack on your character as a strawman tactic. It's a toss up, but you are right. It would be very intrusive.
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Soulex posted:Sorry I fudged some stuff up. I forgot what got resolved and some other things. As it happens, it might not even be necessary. Yesterday I emailed that colonel who contacted me after I responded to the letter that called my wife the wrong name. He started making calls and today I received a phone call from the SES who signed that letter and then a phone call from the colonel who runs the office that trains casualty assistance officers. In the course of the conversation, I've learned some of the things I had issues with have changed (for example, I was eligible for travel pay to and from my wife's funeral. The funeral was in January, the casualty assistance center [which, it turns out, is completely different from the casualty assistance officers: one's a civilian office, the other is a .mil function and they're run by different people] gave me the form to fill out at the end of May, and I didn't get paid until August, before which I had to contact the IG because the casualty assistance idiots had stopped responding to my requests for updates. Travel vouchers for survivors are now part of the casualty assistance officer's checklist, is handled directly by the .mil office, and is a "this must be done within 30 days item). It turns out that I was supposed to have received an official response to my concerns but never received the letter. Anyway, once we established my beef is with the DA civilians in the Casualty Assistance Center and not with my Casualty Assistance Officer, she said she'd have the person who runs that department contact me. She told me to call her if I don't hear anything by Friday afternoon. Reading between the lines, it sounded almost like I'm an urban legend at HRC. "Legend has it there's a military survivor who got ultra turbofucked by the Green Weenie." "No way. Too much poo poo went wrong all at once for that to happen. People fall through the cracks, sure, but nobody falls through the cracks in each step of the process" "It's true! I knew a guy who said he had a buddy who saw a copy of the letter..." McNally fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:I didn't have moleskin so gently caress em
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I transferred to one of my downtrace units about six months ago because it’s literally next door to where I work and it beat the five hour drive each way for drill. USARC came out with a new policy this summer (SMAPP) that outlines reclassing soldiers into critically short MOSs, and for a few of them they’ll use the reclass school in lieu of NCOES. I inquired about it and my UA did an RFI. Higher (my old unit) is telling him no because the unit is priority one. I don’t know much about mob policies, but I’m an admin guy so I told him to ask if they had that policy in writing. He sends me the traffic today and in it the BDE Ops says he thinks that policy is classified, but isn’t sure. Does that sound legit? I’ve gotten the green weenie my fair share of the time, but in my nine years I’ve never had someone’s school or transfer held up because the unit was in an available year. If we had mob orders I’d understand, but we don’t. Retrowave Joe fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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So the jist is that by reclassing it will take the place of like BLC/ALC/SLC or something? Seems like a weird policy to have classified to me
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The jist is right, but that policy isn’t the one they’re saying is classified. It’s the one saying that if a unit is priority one (which I guess is what replaced the Available year from the old ARFORGEN cycle) that a Soldier can’t reclass or transfer.
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Friend of mine mentioned today a friend of his that's in the army band that posts dumb meme's about "if kim jong un wants to fight send the NFL players to deal with it" and i'm just laughing at the thought of a dude with a masters in music that quit his job teaching marching band to go play flute for generals is talking poo poo. In the navy the band is basically it's own little thing with a separate part of boot camp for them and most start as E5+ but basically just get assigned a band and stay there forever. Is the army basically the same?
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Mr. Nice! posted:In the navy the band is basically it's own little thing with a separate part of boot camp for them and most start as E5+ but basically just get assigned a band and stay there forever. Is the army basically the same? Yes. I'm not in the band, but I was a bugler growing up (really) and occasionally have dealings with them when I'm doing a ceremony or some crap. It's bunch of NCO's and SGM's led by a warrant officer.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Friend of mine mentioned today a friend of his that's in the army band that posts dumb meme's about "if kim jong un wants to fight send the NFL players to deal with it" and i'm just laughing at the thought of a dude with a masters in music that quit his job teaching marching band to go play flute for generals is talking poo poo. I'm laughing that your friend would get such a dumb degree
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Not my friend. Friend of a friend. I told him to just call him a slick sleeved bitch and to shut the gently caress up because he just plays the flute for generals. My friends with music degrees are an elementary music teacher and a navy O3 department head on a destroyer. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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