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My screensavers were the various after dark modules. Flying toasters being the best one of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cm7tv5cM8g
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Reminds me a lot of when the coolest thing in the world was media players that could do visualizers.
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Neito posted:Reminds me a lot of when the coolest thing in the world was media players that could do visualizers.
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Oct 18, 2017 06:40
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Oct 18, 2017 14:14
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Regular Nintendo posted:That ui is giving me a m.. BUFFERING
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Oct 18, 2017 14:41
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Real Player has to be one of the internet's worse inventions. I don't think it ever became a thing anybody wanted to use willingly or show much more than 30px wide blocks of colour of buffering if the application worked at all. Somehow it is still alive.
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Oct 18, 2017 15:48
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The late-90's/early 2000s clusterfuck of video formats and players (DivX, XviD, Quicktime, Realplayer, WMV) was definitely something I won't miss. Every video format in their own player, each with their own stupid poo poo, like quicktime not letting you full-screen a video without paying money. And then those necessitated the alternatives codecs of Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative, which morphed into bloated and often laden with spyware codec packs, also something I don't miss. Of course now everybody just uses youtube, or if they need to save a video file locally it's all MKV and h.264 or HEVC.
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Oct 18, 2017 17:38
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There was a time when I was so desperate to stop using RealPlayer that I actually gave up watching those like 5-second porn clips that passed for previews on webpages in the late 1990s and early 2000s, despite them being the only real option at the time. Speaking of options, thanks Instant Sunrise for reminding me of the days when even the "awesome programs everybody used because they were not-lovely versions of the other programs" slowly morphed into their own variety of lovely program. KaZaA Lite! Wow I had no idea until Googin' it just now that there was so much drama over that software's existence. I bet that was the story for all of those "screw your malware" hacks back in the day.
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Oct 18, 2017 17:45
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RealPlayer: It really whips the llama's rear end!
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Neito posted:Reminds me a lot of when the coolest thing in the world was media players that could do visualizers. They're still cool 
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Negrostrike posted:RealPlayer: It really whips the llama's rear end! That better be an intentional misattribution 
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Oct 18, 2017 21:20
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Negrostrike posted:RealPlayer: It really whips the llama's rear end! No no no no no
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Dr. Quarex posted:There was a time when I was so desperate to stop using RealPlayer that I actually gave up watching those like 5-second porn clips that passed for previews on webpages in the late 1990s and early 2000s, despite them being the only real option at the time. This still kinda happens but with websites
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lil bip posted:No no no no no RealPlayer: Welcome to the silicon prairie
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oohhboy posted:Real Player has to be one of the internet's worse inventions. Though i don't miss the era of teeny pixel font skins in Winamp.
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I used to have an entire folder full of winamp 3 skins. I finally gave them up when I learned to love the media library in winamp 5.
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Oct 18, 2017 23:55
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Realplayer at least introduced us to the (outside of winamp) maxim that is true 100% of the time - if a regular windows program didn't use normal windows ui elements, it was a godforsaken sack of poo poo
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Grassy Knowles posted:RealPlayer: Welcome to the silicon prairie Where the wild buffering roam
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lil bip posted:Where the wild buffering roam 
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Regular Nintendo posted:Realplayer at least introduced us to the (outside of winamp) maxim that is true 100% of the time - if a regular windows program didn't use normal windows ui elements, it was a godforsaken sack of poo poo It was always a sign that poo poo was about to break when out of nowhere, a skinned app would suddenly have a Windows UI bar appear on top with all the buttons grayed out
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I remember back in like 1996 at Microsoft I was the UX design lead for Outlook and got tasked with mocking up some "skinned" versions of Outlook. "What if it was more web-like or game-like?" So I just went all in with ideas for round buttons and tiled background textures as a means of showing this was a bad idea. Some of it went over well with a few higher ups and I was worried but then the lead devs were like "  we can't do this poo poo"I ran into that a lot. A marketing manager or group program manager would inevitably want to know how we could make a project "sexier"
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Which, in turn, reminds me of MSN Explorer. I'm sure it's well-hated, but I liked some of its ideas. In the long run, though, the less room a browser's UI takes, the better. I personally don't like any of MS's Windows-dressing after Windows 2000, it's one ugly design idea after another, becoming more inescapable each time.
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Keith Atherton posted:I remember back in like 1996 at Microsoft I was the UX design lead for Outlook and got tasked with mocking up some "skinned" versions of Outlook. "What if it was more web-like or game-like?" I always had the horrible feeling that that was exactly the kind of dynamic that was going on. Cautionary tales interpreted as style guides.
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Keith Atherton posted:I remember back in like 1996 at Microsoft I was the UX design lead for Outlook and got tasked with mocking up some "skinned" versions of Outlook. "What if it was more web-like or game-like?" This is my nightmare. Pitching something truly terrible in the hopes it’ll get killed but then someone loves it and it gets built.
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Keith Atherton posted:I remember back in like 1996 at Microsoft I was the UX design lead for Outlook and got tasked with mocking up some "skinned" versions of Outlook. "What if it was more web-like or game-like?" I sincerely hope some of those marketers were killed and eaten; not too sure which order I'd prefer.
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Keith Atherton posted:So I just went all in with ideas for round buttons and tiled background textures as a means of showing this was a bad idea.  If I clicked on Tools that top row would move down to the bottom. And if that poo poo wasn't bad enough, someone decided the best way to make room for too much stuff was to bring on scrolling tabs.  So can we blame you for indirectly making stationary for Outlook Express?  I so don't miss this era. Apparently some WindowBlinds skins also affected how Outlook would send emails as I had one grey theme where it propagated the look into my emails and people wrote back complaining they were unable to read things. I think it also messed up the font to boot. There also was a phase where you could texture Windows explorer's grey color with patterns. I think that was related to Active Desktop which was amazing for it's ability to make people cry. Such as setting horrid gifs as desktop wallpapers.  And yeah Windows Media Player got bizarre skins during it's time.  If you want more nostalgia of turn of the 2000's interface hell go here. They have some decent writups of the amazingly dense stuff IBM released at the time which attempted to model interfaces off real life objects. This included a CD player modelled from a CD case. And a phone app that required you to pick up the virtual handset to dial. Skeudomorphic design of the 90's has nothing on Apple's attempts. http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/shame.htm
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I sincerely hope some of those marketers were killed and eaten; not too sure which order I'd prefer. My boss's boss became a senior VP A guy I worked for directly on Excel is now a division VP Someone I worked directly for on Visual Studio later became a VP I won't name names but if you follow Microsoft executives over the last 10 years or so you would know their names On topic, we had a color printer on my design team. it was a Tektronix that used these wax cartridges that it would melt and spray the "ink" on the paper
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Keith Atherton posted:On topic, we had a color printer on my design team. it was a Tektronix that used these wax cartridges that it would melt and spray the "ink" on the paper Did your office idiot ever carve down a stick of one colour so that it would fit in another colour’s slot?
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Something similar was pushed for in the default mail message view in Outlook 97 but I was sufficiently unenthusiastic in order for it not to become reality You CAN blame me for this though 
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Outside of wayback machine is there anywhere I can flick through galleries of old web design? I'm envisioning a sequence of images that catalogue all the incremental changes to ebay/facebook/twitter/etc over the years. Youtube in particular would be an interesting one to see, thinking back to the shiny skeuomorphic mess their player was back in 06ish.
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Keith Atherton posted:Something similar was pushed for in the default mail message view in Outlook 97 but I was sufficiently unenthusiastic in order for it not to become reality 
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Platystemon posted:Did your office idiot ever carve down a stick of one colour so that it would fit in another colour’s slot? I was the newbie designer/office idiot in charge of maintaining our color printer plus our Mac SE/30 server where we archived our work
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A toner cartridge once fell apart in my lap. I was so angry, no noise escaped my mouth. I just quietly sat there and throught about ways to destroy the printer without hurting myself or damaging anything else nearby.
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Gonz posted:A toner cartridge once fell apart in my lap. https://youtu.be/j0RYfmLiOQ4
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I was expecting a link to https://youtu.be/N9wsjroVlu8
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Both of those videos are correct
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The Big Word posted:Outside of wayback machine is there anywhere I can flick through galleries of old web design? Fun stuff is digging out old web directories. That is printed magazines listing websites and seeing if there are any survivors. The more interesting stuff from the early boom of Flash do exist in reference books. Even in 1998/9 there were companies that managed to make decently designed sites that were recorded in books A ton of table voodoo and hotspots were the key back then. Here's an early example of web promotion for the movie First Knight. https://web.archive.org/web/19990117010239/www.spe.sony.com/movies/firstknight/index.html BogDew has a new favorite as of 07:37 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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I got one of those books for Christmas once. I don't know how much time had passed between when the book was published and when I got it, but I remember that a bunch of the sites were already offline by that time. I should see if I still have it and if so, whether or not any of the sites are still around.
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Jesus christ I remember trying to do early web design / layouts using tables embedded in tables and god knows what other hacky nonsense
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