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Mr Interweb posted:Can't universities just bypass this sort of thing by inviting right-wingers to speak, but just not blatant poo poo stirrers like Spencer? They didn't invite Spencer, he rented the space and they have to allow him because they allow non-student groups to rent space. Other schools get away with some restrictions by requiring a student group to sponsor but then the shitheads at the College Republicans are usually easily convinced to host anyone that brings lib tears.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I'm sorry what trumps america, pal
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What in the everloving gently caress. 
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Mr Interweb posted:Can't universities just bypass this sort of thing by inviting right-wingers to speak, but just not blatant poo poo stirrers like Spencer? It works by having a shitload of dark money pushing for the most offensive, divisive, and bigoted assholes possible as conservative speakers. No, seriously, assholes like Mercer pay out cash to covertly book speaking engagements in misleading ways, pay more cash to publicize the bigot's appearances, then dole out even more cash to the rags of RWM to cover how hypocritical and unconstitutional those wacky liberal students and universities are because their student body is legitimately angry that their university is promoting Nazis. Rinse rather repeat a dozen times, keep the RWM talking points consistent, and the narrative becomes that colleges hate conservatives and won't let them speak. In the interest appearing "neutral", MSM bows down to this scummy tactic and releases wave after wave of op-eds about how we need to allow Nazis to spread their garbage ideology on the public's dime because *reasons*. Also, the MSM makes sure to immediately surrender the narrative on Antifa to the conservative crazies so now most Americans probably think they are more dangerous and violent than actual Nazis. All made possible by our glorious "job creator" class ranking among the most monstrous people in history. Universities should just say no and let the Nazis take it up in the courts. The legal fees would probably be less than the hundreds of thousands needed for security anyways. Unfortunately it's now accepted that we must let right wing (white) terrorists promote their terrorism on our public property and protection using public money.
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lol wtf http://www.ci.dickinson.tx.us/DocumentCenter/View/2016 
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Were they hoping they would treat this like apples terms of use and not read it?
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Koalas March posted:Not enough Nazis getting punched in this thread. https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/921132060533710848 https://twitter.com/LuisSantana/status/921123429910228992 Here's a good laugh though.
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Mustached Demon posted:Burn Texas. Dickinson is a small garbage suburb of 20k people between Galveston and Houston. frankly I doubt a single soul* there has ever considered boycotting Israel except possibly out of concern for their ties to the globalists
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More context: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/19/to-get-hurricane-rebuilding-money-in-texas-contractors-must-promise-they-wont-boycott-israel/ quote:If you’re confused why the two things are related, look to a bill that Texas’s Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed into law in July. House Bill 89 prohibits the state from entering into contract with a business unless it “does not boycott Israel; and will not boycott Israel during the term of the contract.” The law applies even to businesses that would refuse to buy products made in illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian land — as it defines Israel as both Israel proper and “Israeli-controlled territory.”
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:More context: Oh huh. So it's not the fault of Dickinson? That makes me... sadder.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh huh. So it's not the fault of Dickinson? That makes me... sadder. On the other hand, it's Abbott, so...not exactly out-of-character.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Yeeeah, if you can't see how a large foreign donation to a charity with that politician's name, that supports causes they feel strongly about, and that helps increase their family's worldwide influence could somehow be concerning (if not deeply concerning) then I'm not sure what to tell you. Our optics differ. Yes, there is favoritism in politics for people who elected officials like. That can't, and shouldn't, go away. You're going to have to explain how her charity was fundamentally different.
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Majorian posted:On the other hand, it's Abbott, so...not exactly out-of-character. Well yeah, absolutely, but it being state level annoys me. Every once in a while I like to think our state legislature (or, you know, at least Joe Straus) isn't totally moronic.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/921132060533710848 Yes! Thank you! 
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/921132060533710848 lol he just stops pretending after a minute.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/921132060533710848 I like the part where he's done pretending, just acts normal, and then notices the camera is still on him so kind of half assed covers his eyes again.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh huh. So it's not the fault of Dickinson? That makes me... sadder. That's why I said burn Texas. Or at least their government.
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STAC Goat posted:I like the part where he's done pretending, just acts normal, and then notices the camera is still on him so kind of half assed covers his eyes again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQtpRjBLXic
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Mr Interweb posted:Can't universities just bypass this sort of thing by inviting right-wingers to speak, but just not blatant poo poo stirrers like Spencer? I'll put together something more robust later tonight (fair warning for anyone who'd like to avoid my posting!), but as a rule of thumb: Content-based restrictions are almost always forbidden. If the restriction you're picturing or hearing about is based on who the speaker is, what the speaker is saying, how they are delivering their message, or what type of message the speaker is delivering, it's probably not allowed. So to your question, you can't avoid Richard Spencer by renting space to Tucker Carlson. If I can rent the room to give a lecture on the relationship between tediously pedantic online opinions and virginity, you can't avoid Richard Spencer by saying politics are offlimits and also barring Deray (I'll sure think less of you if you try though!). Kaal posted:You should re-read that fifth circuit court case, they were pretty clear in the restrictions that they set. University administrators can't use unjustified security costs to create an economic barrier to speech, but justified costs are something else entirely. Indeed Spencer apparently paid some pittance for security inside the auditorium, he just didn't pay anything for the security that ringed the auditorium. Again I'll go deeper later (don't think I've dug in here since CVille) but this is where Heckler's Veto comes into play. If you have a right to speak/assemble/etc, I can't force the State to restrict or revoke that right through my behavior (whether threatened or actual). The 6th had a case a couple years ago against Wayne County, MI that's a valuable resource on the topic.
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Paracaidas posted:Again I'll go deeper later (don't think I've dug in here since CVille) but this is where Heckler's Veto comes into play. If you have a right to speak/assemble/etc, I can't force the State to restrict or revoke that right through my behavior (whether threatened or actual). The 6th had a case a couple years ago against Wayne County, MI that's a valuable resource on the topic. The Heckler's Veto concept only ensures that universities can't simply say, "No you can't speak because we don't want a riot". It still permits reasonable fees to be required. Again, the fundamental takeaway here is that universities need to demonstrate that they are levying valid fees, preferably in the form of some sort of objective standard. Ideas that come to mind would be getting an estimate from the sheriff's department, comparing security arrangements with similar situations, and developing a tiered security concept that is based on the severity of civil unrest. University of Florida didn't do that, and instead just waved the white flag and paid out half a million dollars because they didn't want to deal with the issue. But the reality is that Spencer will keep hitting up universities with this sort of thing until he gets the court case he wants - he's just like the Westboro folks, in that he's in the career of drumming up legal business by being as offensive as possible.
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RasperFat posted:Lol is this Kreider? Kreider is the best. 
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Spiffster posted:Kreider is the best. This one always stands out as a classic for me. 
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STAC Goat posted:I like the part where he's done pretending, just acts normal, and then notices the camera is still on him so kind of half assed covers his eyes again. It does look like someone maced him though. If you examine the first few seconds of the video you can definitely see a stream of liquid arc up towards his face from the crowd on his right, and based on the immediate reflexive swat up towards his face and stumbling afterwards it looks like he got a face full of mace in his dumb Nazi face. I’m okay with it. Nazis should be maced.
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GarudaPrime posted:What does an individual's functional boycott of Israel even entail? I deny the existence of Israel in my heart every day
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RasperFat posted:This one always stands out as a classic for me. The text: quote:“I had already turned in my cartoon Friday afternoon when, Saturday morning, I read the news that Reagan’s health was failing. I began drawing immediately. I have had a rough draft of this cartoon ready for this occasion for years. As the day continued I kept getting e-mails and text messages from friends excitedly anticipating the Gipper’s impending death. Finally Steve, with whom I have planned for over a decade to hold a party on the day of Reagan’s funeral, called me from the track, where he was betting on the Belmont Stakes, to tell me that the old bastard was finally dead. He reported that there had been a perfunctory Moment of Silence, lasting approximately 1.6 seconds, before everyone went back to betting. It was beautiful. As the afternoon went on I got a flood of congratulatory calls from friends around the world—Ben in Boston, Megan and Mike in New York, Berkeley in Baltimore, even Allison in Bulgaria. I e-mailed this cartoon into the City Paper around seven P.M., begging them in the name of our sweet lord and savior Jesus Christ to stop the presses and please run this Wednesday, and then headed down to Baltimore to drink tiny beers and watch The Big Lebowski. The Reagan party will be held at my house this weekend.
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Ague Proof posted:The text: That's loving beautiful 
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/921156782579429378quote:"To be very blunt, these three jurisdictions will have authority to bring indictments over the ongoing special counsel investigation into Trump campaign collusion with the Russians and potential obstruction of justice by the president of the United States,” Blumenthal told Politico. “For him to be interviewing candidates for that prosecutor who may, in turn, consider whether to bring indictments involving him and his administration seems to smack of political interference."
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/BAKKOOONN/status/921132060533710848 https://twitter.com/etfp/status/921141889079959552
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Ague Proof posted:The text: I don't think anyone will ever hate a president as much as Hunter S. Thompson hated Nixon, but I feel like this guy comes close with his Reagan hatred.
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Senor Tron posted:You're certainly not showing the non-democratic world the wonders of democracy. Of what now? The State Department explicitly removed all mention of democracy from their materials this year. Democracy is no longer an American value.
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I don't know how I missed this, and it's kind of timely with all of the Melania bullshit going around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NqscIsidQ
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/north-korea-officials-mash-up/index.html It's loving sickening to see how little regard the U.S. gives to innocent Japanese and Korean lives
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