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Displeased Moo Cow posted:When will the first tractor protest happen? nat voters dont own tractors they own the land that people who own tractors are near-slave labour for
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Oct 20, 2017 04:29
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:nat voters dont own tractors
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Oct 20, 2017 04:34
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:I mean yeah nah, national got the most votes though This was another thing that got under Winston's skin as he kept having to explain that this is MMP not FPTP to the idiots in the media. loving Journalist are as useless as a Facebook feed and the resulting comment section. This question will change Winston's mind! *Asks vapid question*.
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Oct 20, 2017 04:42
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Our local rag posted a "this is undemocratic, National got a majority" in their newspaper. Got by the author and the editor that majority isn't a thing that National had...
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Oct 20, 2017 04:51
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Here's Jeremy Wells' Like Mike thing for the lazy: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1597934286935926&id=236597716402930 It's funny
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Oct 20, 2017 05:23
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I liked the cows not making milk line
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Oct 20, 2017 05:34
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https://twitter.com/RossFlahive/status/921168857712099328
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Oct 20, 2017 05:45
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This is loving grand: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11935046 "Federated Farmers backtrack as fast as they loving can and ask Labour to ignore all the bullshit they said about them in the run-up to the election 'cause it may just come back to bite them in the rear end".
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Oct 20, 2017 05:46
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The Rabbi T. White posted:This is loving grand: Yes and no, there was poo poo slung at farmers by a few Labour MPs too.
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Oct 20, 2017 05:53
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bike tory posted:Yes and no, there was poo poo slung at farmers by a few Labour MPs too. Yeah, they pulled it out of the rivers.
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Varkk posted:Yeah, they pulled it out of the rivers. 
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Varkk posted:Yeah, they pulled it out of the rivers. 
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Oct 20, 2017 06:37
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Apparently I'm friends with a whole bunch of billionaires and didn't know it. They way people are talking on Facebook about having all their money taken and given to the poor it's like they have all forgotten we have had Labour governments before...
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Oct 20, 2017 06:38
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Another one is that it's all the money from hard-working kiwis is going to those who "choose not to work for a living"
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Oct 20, 2017 06:54
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The Rabbi T. White posted:Thank you so much. I have shared this on Bookface, with the disclaimer that I blatantly stole it from some dude in this thread. Same here and it has already been "Stolen" again. Please feel good that you have made someone's day.
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Oct 20, 2017 06:55
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Wandle Cax posted:Another one is that it's all the money from hard-working kiwis is going to those who "choose not to work for a living" I had a big argument on a friend of mine's comment after he said exactly this. I'd share it but it's long, and you all know exactly what they said already.
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Oct 20, 2017 07:18
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Are there any actual numbers on "bludgers" because the way some people talk they are everywhere and I have yet to meet one. And I meet a lot of people.
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Oct 20, 2017 07:44
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I heard from this guy who heard about this guy who turned down a job to stay on the dole. So obviously everyone on the dole is like that.
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Oct 20, 2017 07:52
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If you walk down Queen Street and associated side streets you can see them every day choosing to live from a bag on the sidewalk. Some of them even bus in from their state houses in Mangere in the morning to beg for more money because they're such layabouts!
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Oct 20, 2017 08:00
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One thing I really don't understand is why everyone seems to think that any money that beneficiaries get immediately disappears into a black hole. It's not like they're stashing their checks in the Cayman islands or anything. Like, is it really a hard thing to grasp that beneficiaries tend to, you know, actually spend their benefit money and therefore circulate it through the economy? Aside from economic stimulus, there's also other fringe benefits too, like for example not having people stave to death in the streets. Like, seriously, what do people actually think happens to all this money that these 'useless dole bludgers' get?
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Oct 20, 2017 08:07
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It's just emotionally charged resentment deliberately fomented by National/the rich in order to split the lower classes. None of it stands up to scrutiny.
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NZPol: What are you doing for Labour Weekend
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Oct 20, 2017 08:18
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People also significantly overestimate how much money you get as a beneficiary, don't consider the stand-down period which if you're living week-to-week on New Zealand's rockstar falling wages will financially cripple you to the point where most of your benefit will end up paying the debts you accrued while waiting for it, don't understand how emotionally draining it is to be treated as a criminal every single week by the mandatory check-ins - literally designed to hound you off of the benefit -just because you lost your job and want to keep your home, and thought that hey, maybe we should pass a law that allows employers to just fire people after three months for no reason at all and somehow that will reduce the number of people on the benefit as they play musical loving jobs with each other.
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Oct 20, 2017 08:19
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On a lighter note, I happened to watch tv tonight and channel switched past Mike Hosking's face. The man still looks like that one dude in Indiana Jones (Temple of Doom) who had his heart ripped out right in front of him.
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Oct 20, 2017 08:29
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:Are there any actual numbers on "bludgers" because the way some people talk they are everywhere and I have yet to meet one. And I meet a lot of people. There's the homeless down Queen St, but 10-12 of them to a city of 2 mil is a pretty okay ratio.
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Oct 20, 2017 09:01
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Homeless doesn't always = bludging though I know of more people getting their benefits taken by gangs than bludgers out to rip of hard working Bruce and Jane but I guess I move in different circles
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Oct 20, 2017 09:16
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The whole idea of the "serial dole bludger" is (to no one's surprise) complete crap as well. I don't have the study on hand, but the vast majority of people on benefits were on them for no more than something like 1.5 years at most, and then never went back on a benefit again. Exceptions were almost all sickness benefits and the like.
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:Homeless doesn't always = bludging though
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I want to get off it.  I went back on the benefit a few months ago after blowing most of my savings keeping afloat while job seeking for most of 2017, and only getting a month of contract work in June. Since the last time I was on it in 2014, the local WINZ building has locked its doors and requires you to have your ID recorded by security guards before you're let in. To top things off, I waited a month for an appointment, and only got two minutes of time with a human staff member - the rest was spent filling out a questionnaire on a PC kiosk.The dole is a miserable loving experience that has only gotten more dehumanising, and people talking poo poo about people on it doesn't help in the slightest.
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Oct 20, 2017 10:29
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http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/10/leak-greens-ministerial-roles-revealed.html Honestly most excited about the minister for women portfolio. Also I feel you, Anticheese. Whenever there's a national- led government they get really into degrading and humiliating people on benefits. It's gross and it does nothing to help make people's situations more tenable. slinkimalinki fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Anticheese posted:I want to get off it. My favorite experience was being told how depression and anxiety aren't real when I had only been out of hospital for a couple of months.
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Taitale posted:My favorite experience was being told how depression and anxiety aren't real when I had only been out of hospital for a couple of months. Honestly I think my very ever favourite, after being on the benefit twice in my life, once when I had horrendous depression and got my benefit docked to $80 a week for months, was actually the time when I'd been on it for two weeks after completing a PhD and I had to go sit with a dude for an hour while he haranged me about my bad choices and asked me repeatedly what other people from my "course" were doing. Like that was the time I actually had my poo poo together, as opposed to the time I was drat near dead, and it still wasn't enough. slinkimalinki fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Taitale posted:My favorite experience was being told how depression and anxiety aren't real when I had only been out of hospital for a couple of months. I recently picked my sister up from an appointment. She was in tears after how, even with a medical certificate, WINZ has been hounding her for meetings every fortnight without any real purpose. Here's to the new government making WINZ marginally less lovely. 
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Oct 20, 2017 10:55
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I applied for the benefit ages I had returned to nz six months prior and I was broke and didn't have a job. I got told to take a job as a winz case manager I left without a benefit. I got a slightly less demeaning job - my former job.
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Dragonstoned posted:I made this in celebration This has popped up in a bunch of different places on my Facebook now, congrats
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3 Pasifika ministers, two of them in Cabinet. That must be a first?
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Funny how national voters are not slow to get the dole as soon as they lose their job, which is stealing according to them??
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bobbilljim posted:Funny how national voters are not slow to get the dole as soon as they lose their job, which is stealing according to them?? We should avoid this sort of anecdotal poo poo-flinging if we want to be any better than the beneficiary-bashers imo
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