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Can someone tell me about the Challenger, the 5.7 British medium tank? I've never seen one in game, there's no videos about it on YouTube, and I get the feeling no one actually uses it.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Is it in a good spot vis a vis BR? the F6F-5 is still at 3.3 the F6F-5N (it has cannons and .50's) is 4.3 both are in fun BR ranges
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Oct 20, 2017 20:28
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Tythas posted:the F6F-5 is still at 3.3 the F6F-5N (it has cannons and .50's) is 4.3 both are in fun BR ranges Well that's good. Played a few rounds of arcade, still fun dunking on the conga line chasing bombers. Need to learn to remap some of the controls though. Is it possible to separate the Mouse Look with C from using inverted Y-Axis? I like inverting my mouse for flight, but not with the free look.
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Oct 20, 2017 20:31
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Solumin posted:Can someone tell me about the Challenger, the 5.7 British medium tank? I've never seen one in game, there's no videos about it on YouTube, and I get the feeling no one actually uses it. Plays kinda like a Hellcat in that it's quick and can get into great ambush positions. However, because British, it's tough to knock out your target on that first shot, and the reverse speed is abysmal. So really it's like a Hellcat that is much harder to do well in but can be more rewarding. Edit: At 5.7 the thing has trouble penning certain opponents until APDS is unlocked. I think most people give up before unlocking it honestly. got fired from Snopes fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 21:39
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Solumin posted:Can someone tell me about the Challenger, the 5.7 British medium tank? I've never seen one in game, there's no videos about it on YouTube, and I get the feeling no one actually uses it. For me, the Challenger was the tank that brought me out of the slump that was the British hellgrind back when the Firefly was 5.0 and the Avenger 5.3. It's the first tank with true 17pdr APDS, and it's on a Cromwell chassis. The turret looks like a joke, but it was the first time after the Firefly and the Comet that I felt like there was a rare chance I might bounce a shot - don't ask me how that happened, because I don't know. Basically it felt like I was driving a Cromwell again. I could go fast, pen everything, and even though I was not in a very surviveable vehicle, I was in something acceptable. I also do not remember for sure, but I think it has a crew with two loaders, which makes your rate of fire good enough to compensate somewhat for the poor damage you'll be doing without explosive filler.
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Oct 20, 2017 22:21
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It feels like a Cromwell because it is one, albeit with a stretched chassis. Well, I guess that gives me something else to look forward to, once I get the comet. 20k to go! 
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Oct 20, 2017 22:25
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I was hoping this one would make it in the initial tree. VG-33 
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Oct 20, 2017 23:41
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i'm actually interested in this more than italians because my  plane knowledge is almost entirely WWI stuffalso what better way to grief wehraboos?
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Oct 20, 2017 23:46
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Thief posted:i'm actually interested in this more than italians because my Same on allah counts.
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Oct 20, 2017 23:50
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Oct 21, 2017 00:42
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I don't often celebrate tanks. But when I do, it's some bugfuck bonkers poo poo like this.
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Oct 21, 2017 02:28
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Holy poo poo, American .50 cals are goddamn buzzsaws.
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Oct 21, 2017 04:44
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Arcsquad12 posted:Holy poo poo, American .50 cals are goddamn buzzsaws. There's a reason the Pentagon straps them onto literally everything still to this day. Browning basically made the perfect weapon. Cheap, reliable, can punch through an inch of steel, etc. The fact that they feed not from belts but from rifts drawing from the elemental plane of "bullet" helps. Who cares about being careful with your shots when you have 2/4/6/12 guns with 2,000+ rounds each?
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Oct 21, 2017 05:00
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I have been flying the D.520 again recently and hooooly poo poo does the hispano run out of ammo quickly. The 4x 7.5s are actually extremely good with steath belts because I find the tracers are really distracting, also I'm tons better at aerial gunnery since playing Italians require good shooting AND being fairly close to the target. The Dewo itself is pretty solid overall and seems to do the best around 3k or so. Also I don't remember the C.200 being so amazing but I took it for a spin and got 4x kills, the majority of them P-40s. Thought we were going to lose for sure.
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Oct 21, 2017 05:12
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Every plane would be better if you were to replace any non-.50 machine gun with an M2.a (when it comes to killing planes)
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Oct 21, 2017 06:27
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.50s are pretty good in CARB too, about the only guns I'd take over 8000 rounds of .50 cal in the P-47 are the Mk103s with HVAP. Everything else isn't much of a step up in power to lose 90% of your ammo.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:36
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You do have to generally limit your strafing runs on open topped vehicles in CARB though when using .50's Though since those are generally AA or the SPAAs that are hiding around the map waiting to pounce your team's tanks that's not a bad thing. Of course there's the fact that strafing a hard target still lights it up, both on the minimap and with the giant hailstorm of tracers, which isn't a bad thing at all.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:45
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Realistic Battles are still as much of a crapshoot as I remember them to be. Spend ten minutes climbing, watch your entire team get annihilated by two BF-109s.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:55
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Alkydere posted:You do have to generally limit your strafing runs on open topped vehicles in CARB though when using .50's Though since those are generally AA or the SPAAs that are hiding around the map waiting to pounce your team's tanks that's not a bad thing. No autcannons but the German 30s can reliably penetrate anything but open topped tanks/AAA past about BR5 unless you come straight down. It's doable but more often than not you'll just not pen and probably crash since a hard vertical dive tends to be easy to misjudge as you have to position for the strafing run so exactly. Also while most cannons can do it, rarely do the ammo loadouts actually support it properly (30mm HVAP excluded). Most ground target belts still have like 40-50% HEI in them. With the P-47, you can pen Ru-251s, Obj 120s, PT-76/85, ASU-57, every German TD in the far left tree, and every superstructure or truck based AAA, which is drat near all of them. More importantly with 1000 rounds per gun you get like a full 90 seconds of trigger time, and you kick up a shitload of dust in the process. You can very realistically strafe active AAA targets in the P-47 by just holding the trigger down from drat near a kilometer out and adjusting from there. You'd be surprised how often that works with a little practice, since the shielding on things like Ostwinds/ZSU gunners is only 15mm. .50 Stealth belts are almost entirely AP and API, unlike many other belts that revert back to mostly HE. I have something like 900 CARB games and 1300 vehicle kills between the P-47Ds, and even post rocket nerf they are probably still my favorite attacker because they just have so much god drat ammo. Flying back to reload on many maps is more often than not just throwing away valuable time. Mazz fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 07:07
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Got some planes I'm looking at for when the sale hits. How good are these in a pure aiRB anti-fighter role (don't care about CARB or using them for ground attacks)? - Do 335 B-2 - P-47M-1 - Wyvern Also, are the La-11 or premium Yak-3 any good?
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Oct 21, 2017 21:51
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The P-47 is an absolute beast but the same caveat exists that you absolutely need the height advantage before it becomes effective.
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Oct 21, 2017 21:54
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GrossMurpel posted:Got some planes I'm looking at for when the sale hits. How good are these in a pure aiRB anti-fighter role (don't care about CARB or using them for ground attacks)? the premium yak 3 is extremely good
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Oct 21, 2017 22:29
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GrossMurpel posted:Got some planes I'm looking at for when the sale hits. How good are these in a pure aiRB anti-fighter role (don't care about CARB or using them for ground attacks)? There isn't really anything nice to say about the Do 335 B-2. I am pretty sure it uses the Do 217 flight mode and it has a worse cockpit than its free counterparts. It's barely passable as a bomber hunter, let alone engaging fighters. If the Do 335s ever get fixed performance—and as I understand it, there's a lot to fix—then they could be super cool but even then I'd prefer the free ones because the cockpit in the A model is much nicer. The other two are excellent.
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Oct 21, 2017 22:31
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GrossMurpel posted:Got some planes I'm looking at for when the sale hits. How good are these in a pure aiRB anti-fighter role (don't care about CARB or using them for ground attacks)? The Wyvern can make a decent heavy fighter though there are better options on the main tree, though I dunno about the other choices for Brit air premiums at that tier since that's the only one I own. I don't own the P-47M-1 but I've never seen a P-47 I didn't think was fantastic. The premium Yak-3 is amazing, though it gets uptiered to fight jets occasionally.
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Oct 21, 2017 22:34
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[bumbles into thread] did someone mention the vk-107?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW-V6jyT-6Y
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Oct 21, 2017 23:09
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GrossMurpel posted:Got some planes I'm looking at for when the sale hits. How good are these in a pure aiRB anti-fighter role (don't care about CARB or using them for ground attacks)? That P-47M is actually extremely cool and good and feels only slightly less powerful than a P-47N, however, the M gets ~dive brakes~ The Wyvern plays like a lower-tier F-84 that can still be caught so you have to be careful using it as a pure fighter. It can be done, also the Wyvern has a ton of cannon ammo relative to other, similiarly armed fighters. The closest comparison on the main tree is the Firebrand, which is actually poo poo. The Torpedo is somehow the same one as the Swordfish so you have to be stalling to release it, so that sucks. The Do-335 B-2 is a support fighter's support plane. I haven't taken it out much outside of CARB because I think it suffers from 190 syndrome where it can't outclimb what it can't outturn, and it's permanantly stuck in a state of wanting to do headons. If you are pretty good at Germans then it could be okay, it's better if you actually like CARB because it has the sweet cannons at Pather/Tiger tier. I haven't tested it but I'd imagine that it'd be really really good at something like Sim, although you have no way of checking if something is behind you so that might throw you off.
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Oct 21, 2017 23:09
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Recoome posted:That P-47M is actually extremely cool and good and feels only slightly less powerful than a P-47N, however, the M gets ~dive brakes~ How is "only slightly less powerful" at 0.6BR higher a good thing? Actually, why is it even that much higher in the first place? Looks like it has the same engine
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Oct 21, 2017 23:22
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It's the propeller right? Redesigned prop so it climbs faster?
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Oct 21, 2017 23:38
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Honestly I thought it was just engine tuning for the M, so it's supposed to be better at high altitude? I'm not completely sure. The moral of the story is that the P-47M is both an extremely solid choice for both being a pure fighter and a fighter bomber, for exactly the same reasons that every other P-47 is.
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Oct 22, 2017 00:43
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Nah, the P-47N is built on the P-47M design, just with enlarged square tip wings to increase fuel capacity to escort B-29s. A P-47N with an equivalent amount of fuel as a P-47M should outfly the P-47M in maneuvers.
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Oct 22, 2017 02:01
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Arcsquad12 posted:Well that's good. Played a few rounds of arcade, still fun dunking on the conga line chasing bombers. Need to learn to remap some of the controls though. Is it possible to separate the Mouse Look with C from using inverted Y-Axis? I like inverting my mouse for flight, but not with the free look. Yes, they messed this up in a patch but I know exactly what you mean, there's a toggle for it specifically, but I'll need to check exactly where it is now.
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Oct 22, 2017 03:12
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Q: Why would they remove the scout planes from Norway? A: To make it even worse, of course!
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Oct 22, 2017 13:40
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Have they in general removed all the AI tanks? There's none on kursk anymore either. Kursk is still a bad map.
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Oct 22, 2017 13:56
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spectralent posted:Have they in general removed all the AI tanks? There's none on kursk anymore either. Haven't had Kursk in long enough to find out, but the new maps have loads of targets, if you're US/GB!  Rhine is great for grinding ground targets, the stupid traincartse: are we talking air 
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Oct 22, 2017 14:13
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spectralent posted:Have they in general removed all the AI tanks? There's none on kursk anymore either. I regularly see AI tanks in Carpathians. And Kursk is still awesome if you have ATGMs.
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Oct 22, 2017 16:35
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 This loving game.
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Japan tanks are fun and at the beginning of every round I type "with all these china tanks we can not lose" "lets show them are teriyaki!" and 4/5 rounds at least someone pipes up with "uhm i think you mean JAPANESE tanks" or something similar. One guy actually said "Presumably you mean Japanese tanks?" hakimashou fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 24, 2017 00:00
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he's a loving idiot because its actually korean design
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Oct 24, 2017 00:16
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MrLonghair posted:
A few days ago had a friend survive a hit from a KV-2 in the Marder-Puma. We were trying to figure out how that worked out since he got hit and had his transmission and rear-driver wrecked, but the vehicle wasn't turned entirely inside out by the 152mm shell. The best response anyone could figure out was the KV-2 either loaded the concrete buster or actually missed with the HE.
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Shells have RNG, bombs have BS (damaged track on the German from being sent flying, Japanese tank laughed it off)
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