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Benne posted:Yahtzee is still there for reasons. Probably because it'd be a pain and a half to set up a website for his videos as well as transferring his videos to another channel.
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I mean he's got his own Youtube channel he could upload his videos to if he felt like it. I'm guessing they just pay him well.
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Benne posted:Remember The Escapist? Probably not, it's been a while since anyone thought about them. Anyway, they apparently gutted almost their entire paid staff and the website is on life support with only volunteers left running the joint. Cause once he leaves that site is D-E-D, dead. They'll pay him whatever they can to keep him.
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Kay Kessler posted:I mean he's got his own Youtube channel he could upload his videos to if he felt like it. I'm guessing they just pay him well. I believe it's been all but spoken for years he's over half the site's budget.
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Looking over his most recent videos, he's averaging about 150k views on the main site and around 500k on YouTube, which is pretty much a pittance compared to the numbers he was pulling in, oh, 7 or 8 years ago. The last video he had that broke 1M was at least a year ago. So even with just Yahtzee onboard the ship is sinking fast. Mraagvpeine posted:Probably because it'd be a pain and a half to set up a website for his videos as well as transferring his videos to another channel. And that's probably the number one reason he hasn't left yet. He's had someone else doing that job for him for the last ten years, so either he's gonna have to do it himself, hire someone to do it for him, or find another website to hitch a ride on. He'll be fine though. All he needs to do is open a Patreon and let that sweet, sweet crowdfunding fill up his fridge.
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I haven't watched Zero Punctuation in years. I got nothing against the gay but then again, I don't know much about him. Being unfunny is the least of internet reviewer's problems these days. Is he a GamerGator or anything? If not, I wish him luck.
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Yeah, I guess if Yahtzee wanted to go independent, he probably would've done so a long time ago. It's just funny that the Escapist drove off all their notable writers/content creators and then acted shocked when people stopped visiting the website.
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Can't say I'm surprised. The EIC they had (have?) was big on gamergate and seemed like a really unpleasant person and that didn't sit well with a lot of people. You can probably mark that as the beginning of the end for that site.
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Benne posted:Yeah, I guess if Yahtzee wanted to go independent, he probably would've done so a long time ago. Who wants to start a Kickstarter to buy Escapist in a post-bankruptcy fire sale?
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Looking over his most recent videos, he's averaging about 150k views on the main site and around 500k on YouTube, which is pretty much a pittance compared to the numbers he was pulling in, oh, 7 or 8 years ago. The last video he had that broke 1M was at least a year ago. yahtzee is losing views because his reviews are exactly the same they have been for a decade. like, that's fine and i don't mind his style, but at some point i just lost interest. every once in a while a video of his pops up in my recommendations, i watch it, and it's like...yep this is sure the same stuff he was making ten years ago. NikkolasKing posted:I haven't watched Zero Punctuation in years. I got nothing against the gay but then again, I don't know much about him. as far as i know, he stayed way the gently caress out of gamergate even as the people running the escapist were diving into it. Kim Justice posted:I was thinking more about another popular gaming site that's going down the toilet, but hey-ho the only gaming site i give a hot flying poo poo about is giant bomb, so what is this other site that is going down the toilet and why is it happening?
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financially racist posted:the only gaming site i give a hot flying poo poo about is giant bomb, so what is this other site that is going down the toilet and why is it happening? NeoGaf has exploded
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Grondoth posted:NeoGaf has exploded let me just google that real quick– oh
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Grondoth posted:NeoGaf has exploded i hadn't heard of this but yeesh wtf neogaf was a cesspit of suck though so good riddance
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financially racist posted:yahtzee is losing views because his reviews are exactly the same they have been for a decade. like, that's fine and i don't mind his style, but at some point i just lost interest. every once in a while a video of his pops up in my recommendations, i watch it, and it's like...yep this is sure the same stuff he was making ten years ago. Most of his side businesses fell through years ago, as well. I don't know what else he's got besides the weekly reviews. e: also he apparently moved to America last year? great timing there Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Oct 22, 2017 |
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Didn't Yahtzee try opening up a chain of gaming-themed bars a few years ago? I won't be surprised if he lost his shirt over that investment and is now just sitting on the Escapist contract because that's the one consistent income he has left.
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tonight i found out the director for the escapist's there will be brawl went on to become the overwatch cowboy
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There was a pretty decent show on the Escapist called Doomsday Arcade. It was made by a bunch of schoolkids and now the main writer/director does actual TV. So that is at least one partial success story from that website. Nobody actually watched his TV show but that was still kinda cool. Also didn't Giant Bomb sell itself off to Gamespot not that long ago?
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financially racist posted:yahtzee is losing views because his reviews are exactly the same they have been for a decade. like, that's fine and i don't mind his style, but at some point i just lost interest. every once in a while a video of his pops up in my recommendations, i watch it, and it's like...yep this is sure the same stuff he was making ten years ago. Yup, the shtick wore thin pretty quick. Wish he he did more reviews where he just gushes about a game like his Psychonauts and Painkiller ones, but they probably weren't a tenth as popular as his "[Recent AAA Title] is soulless and samey" reviews. His books are ok if you don't mind his discount Terry Pratchett writing.
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I have a funny little throughline where I watched Yahtzee's reviews, stopped watching those but moved on to Let's Drown Out, and then when that died, I turned to Keep Et Classy, featuring Y's partner on LDO. I literally cannot recall when the last just-Yahtzee thing I've watched, come to think of it.
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Wrageowrapper posted:Also didn't Giant Bomb sell itself off to Gamespot not that long ago? That was like 5 years ago
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Wrageowrapper posted:Also didn't Giant Bomb sell itself off to Gamespot not that long ago? CBS, not GameSpot they basically still run as always have
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Do not even ask posted:Yup, the shtick wore thin pretty quick. Wish he he did more reviews where he just gushes about a game like his Psychonauts and Painkiller ones, but they probably weren't a tenth as popular as his "[Recent AAA Title] is soulless and samey" reviews. His last two reviews of A Hat In Time and Cuphead were both just him gushing about each game for five minutes, and it's pretty even odds that if he's playing an indie game he actually has something to say about it, compared to, say, Destiny 2, where half the review was spent admiring a wall. I also remember he liked Majora's Mask a lot and was actually able to articulate why in a unique way, or at least no other reviewer I watched brought up the same points he did. I suppose that's why I'm still watching Yahtzee's reviews even after ten years; most people still don't have the same level of insight or ability to articulate what they do and don't like about any given game like him, while still being funny and to-the-point short. Some of this thread's favourites, like Brows Held High or Folding Ideas, aim more towards insightful critique on whatever they're talking about, but they usually have pretty long videos that only occasionally pepper in jokes, they are not comedy-first types. Others who aim for short comedy videos, like Dunkey or So yeah, Yahtzee's shtick is old, he hasn't update his style in forever, but he also hasn't been replaced because nobody does what he does as well as he does. That said I wouldn't mind if he scrapped the whole show and started over with something else when Escapist goes belly up.
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AriadneThread posted:tonight i found out the director for the escapist's there will be brawl went on to become the most watched Dungeon Master ever. I keep wanting to start a Critical Role thread, but I have no idea where I would put it. Here? TradGames? The first campaign just ended, and it's well worth a watch if you have 400-ish hours to kill. A bunch of story-committed voice actors manage to put together a pretty great show, in a radio drama "theater of the mind" sort of way. Also, he just got married yesterday!
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Yeah, I can't really fault Yahtzee for staying in his comfort zone. In the chaotic world of content creation, steady paychecks are few and far between, so if he can still pull a consistent audience doing the same tried-and-true gimmick, then more power to him. Also the Internet has been around long enough that we should know Fast-Talking Accent Guy With Funny Pictures is an evergreen market. Benne fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Oct 22, 2017 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Looking over his most recent videos, he's averaging about 150k views on the main site and around 500k on YouTube, which is pretty much a pittance compared to the numbers he was pulling in, oh, 7 or 8 years ago. The last video he had that broke 1M was at least a year ago. Doesn't the Escapist also own the rights to his show, that was why LRR no longer did unskippable.
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He'd be pretty silly to give them the rights when zero punctuation going viral and getting big views for the first handful of videos was why they signed him in the first place. Kinda like giving away your golden goose that.
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stingtwo posted:Doesn't the Escapist also own the rights to his show, that was why LRR no longer did unskippable. Not sure if they own the ZP brand but they own pretty much everything else the site hosted. Everyone they fired were unable to continue their projects.
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Paladin posted:I keep wanting to start a Critical Role thread, but I have no idea where I would put it. Here? TradGames? The first campaign just ended, and it's well worth a watch if you have 400-ish hours to kill. oh, he does that too? my old college roommate from the same time brawl was around is super into that show, wild
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Do not even ask posted:Yup, the shtick wore thin pretty quick. Wish he he did more reviews where he just gushes about a game like his Psychonauts and Painkiller ones, but they probably weren't a tenth as popular as his "[Recent AAA Title] is soulless and samey" reviews. His game "the Consuming Shadow" is the bomb.
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Benne posted:Didn't Yahtzee try opening up a chain of gaming-themed bars a few years ago? I won't be surprised if he lost his shirt over that investment and is now just sitting on the Escapist contract because that's the one consistent income he has left. He co-owned it with a bunch of people, yeah, but it doesn't look like it was some massive failure that bankrupted the owners or anything; it shut down a couple years ago, but it looks like it wasn't a big implosion, just a slow decline.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Most businesses fail, especially in the restaurant/hospitality industry. I wouldn't read too much into it. Yeah, and five years is honestly a pretty good run for one, isn't it? Most fail in a year or two, I thought.
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Idran posted:Yeah, and five years is honestly a pretty good run for one, isn't it? Most fail in a year or two, I thought. Depends on whether it was profitable or broke even for 5 years, or should have been closed after a year but was kept afloat through loans or investments.
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Moatman posted:Depends on whether it was profitable or broke even for 5 years, or should have been closed after a year but was kept afloat through loans or investments. I'll answer that question with another question; why would a profitable bar close down?
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Given how capricious and arbitrary Youtube can be, I can't imagine many people would opt-in to that if they can pull a steady paycheck making the same content. Also he probably gets access to review copies and little perks like that through The Escapist that he wouldn't be guaranteed by going Indie. I doubt The Escapist is holding a gun to Yahtzee's head to keep him there. Brows Held High has joined the ranks of Serious Film People Talking About Monster Factory. It's pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwH5HjgS9JU
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Insurrectionist posted:He'd be pretty silly to give them the rights when zero punctuation going viral and getting big views for the first handful of videos was why they signed him in the first place. Kinda like giving away your golden goose that. It does happen. The Penny Arcade guys signed away the rights to their comic at the very beginning, though they got them back. Also, it's never been confirmed I think, but isn't the consensus that Mike Michaud owns at least part of the Nostalgia Critic character ? It's pretty tempting for somebody just starting out to get in bed with a website/company and then finding it difficult to leave. Jim Sterling is sorta weird in this regard, he continued The Jimquisition after leaving The Escapist, but none of those old videos are on his channel, only on The Escapist one. This could be because he legally can't put up his old stuff, or (just as likely IMHO) it would be a pain in the arse to upload 150-odd videos and removing The Escapist logos from them.
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