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Homecoming Spider-Man was the perfect Spider-Man and Peter Parker, a dweeby fast talking kid with a heart of gold who probably has reams of inner dialogue expressed by his facial expressions and body language
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Calaveron posted:Homecoming Spider-Man was the perfect Spider-Man and Peter Parker, a dweeby fast talking kid with a heart of gold who probably has reams of inner dialogue expressed by his facial expressions and body language I’m glad they actually made him a dork this time as opposed to the ASM version
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Oct 22, 2017 22:33
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Man, watching ASM and trying to have Garfield and Stone pass as teenagers just took me out of it. Especially the second one.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:34
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What's crazy is that the actress who plays Liz is like 27.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:37
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I still haven't seen the Amazing movies. Had a bad feeling about the first one, and stayed away. Homecoming was exactly what I wanted out of a MCU Spider-Man.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:49
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Amazing 1 is alrightish, Amazing 2 is an insane fever dream. Homecoming is fantastic, Raimi 1 is alright but poorly aged, Raimi 2 is great, Raimi 3 is garbage.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:51
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RevolverDivider posted:Amazing 1 is alrightish, Amazing 2 is an insane fever dream. Homecoming is fantastic, Raimi 1 is alright but poorly aged, Raimi 2 is great, Raimi 3 is garbage. This is all accurate and should be referred to in the future should anyone have doubts.
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Oct 23, 2017 00:55
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Raimi Spider-Man 2 is way better than Homecoming  Both had really great villains, but no action setpiece in Homecoming even comes close to the train sequence in Spider-Man 2. Also when MJ sees that Peter is Spider-Man, that scene is perfection.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:22
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Did Sony announce who Venom was going to be? I hope it’s Topher Grace again.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:31
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fruit on the bottom posted:Did Sony announce who Venom was going to be? I hope it’s Topher Grace again. Tom Hardy.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:32
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teagone posted:Raimi Spider-Man 2 is way better than Homecoming God forbid we didn’t get to see a Spider-Man twisting his fat doughy face into contortions of effort and pain The airplane sequence was fantastic, and the Washington Monument scene holy poo poo, that perfectly sold the idea that Pete’s just an inexperienced kid who despite being scared shitless is still willing to go the mile for the right reasons
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Oct 23, 2017 01:36
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Aphrodite posted:Tom Hardy. Oh man I hope he uses his Bane accent for no reason
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Oct 23, 2017 01:37
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hiddenriverninja posted:Oh man I hope he uses his Bane accent for no reason I hope Venom suddenly gets all populist and tries to give something back to the people.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:41
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ASM2 suffers from having a supposed 45 minutes of finished film cut out at the last minute so next to nothing makes any sense. There's an entire sub plot with Mary Jane that's missing and is the whole reason Gwen was willing to leave NYC.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:49
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Rhyno posted:ASM2 suffers from having a supposed 45 minutes of finished film cut out at the last minute so next to nothing makes any sense. There's an entire sub plot with Mary Jane that's missing and is the whole reason Gwen was willing to leave NYC. The movie’s a bloated incoherent overlong mess as it is, I cannot imagine it originally having even more
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Oct 23, 2017 01:59
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Calaveron posted:The movie’s a bloated incoherent overlong mess as it is, I cannot imagine it originally having even more From what I read previously cut segments were re-inserted to pad out the run time to cover the missing MJ sequences.
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Oct 23, 2017 02:03
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Aphrodite posted:Tom Hardy. The guy who played Patrick Stewart's clone?
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Oct 23, 2017 03:33
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Wheat Loaf posted:I like Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 best, because of nostalgia I have for them as much as their own qualities as films (Dafoe and Molina are still two of my favourites for superhero movie villains), then Homecoming. Yeah, I don't think SM3 did anything *bad*, it's just way way WAY too crowded of a film.
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Oct 23, 2017 03:39
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I haven't seen Spider-Man 3 in 10 years, but I remember thinking it was good, a fine continuation of Spider-Man 2, for like the first half, but then took a hard turn off the rails. The tipping point was Bruce Campbell's scene.
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Bruceski posted:Yeah, I don't think SM3 did anything *bad*, it's just way way WAY too crowded of a film.
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Oct 23, 2017 03:48
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Rhyno posted:From what I read previously cut segments were re-inserted to pad out the run time to cover the missing MJ sequences. Wasn't there also a whole subplot about Peter's dad (up to and including his dad being alive and showing up at the end) that was also cut out of the movie?
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Oct 23, 2017 04:27
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FlamingLiberal posted:Doing a retcon where Sandman is responsible for Uncle Ben’s death is completely missing the point I agree. As much as I would rather execs keep out of creative processes, there is a part of me that wishes Raimi had just done the Venom movie they told him to do. I would've taken that over forcing Venom into the movie he already had in his head. teagone posted:Raimi Spider-Man 2 is way better than Homecoming I dunno, I've never quite loved the train sequence as much as everyone else. It's cool, but I don't think it's any better than the boat in Homecoming. I also think the New Yorker Pride with the little kids thing is very corny and I kinda hate whenever Spidey is unmaksed. I know movies demand it, but it's in the tier right under Bat Bullets.
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Oct 23, 2017 04:54
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Jamesman posted:Wasn't there also a whole subplot about Peter's dad (up to and including his dad being alive and showing up at the end) that was also cut out of the movie? Everyone knows no one cares about peters parents, but Miles parents on the other hand
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Oct 23, 2017 05:06
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Jamesman posted:Wasn't there also a whole subplot about Peter's dad (up to and including his dad being alive and showing up at the end) that was also cut out of the movie?
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Oct 23, 2017 05:16
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I'm also glad we didn't get some weird Spider-Man 4 where John Malcovich was Vulture and Anne Hathaway was his daughter/a female Vulture. The Homecoming version of Vulture was the best way to do that character. You just know that Raimi would have kept the Vulture close to his original appearance and not updated much.
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Oct 23, 2017 05:19
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Yeah but... Malkovich vulture? I'm willing to forgive a lot for that
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Oct 23, 2017 06:32
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The way Mary Jane is in the Raimi movies just ruins them. Dunst is making the best of it, but she is literally the worst character. All she does is exist to be lusted after by Peter, and any of her storylines that don't involve getting kidnapped smack of bad writers thinking they need "something for the ladies" in an action movie. God I barely remember what she does in 2. Over all i find the Raimi ones don't hold up that well. There's good and even great stuff in it, with Molina and Simmons being real stand outs (even though Doc Ocks origin is just really silly, even for comic books). I heard a rumor Ernie Hudson could be JJJ in Spider-Man SATs, which would be pretty cool, but i doubt anyone could ever match Jk Simmons. Malkovich would have probably been in the movie for 2 minutes before passing his torch onto his daughter.
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twistedmentat posted:The way Mary Jane is in the Raimi movies just ruins them. Dunst is making the best of it, but she is literally the worst character. All she does is exist to be lusted after by Peter, and any of her storylines that don't involve getting kidnapped smack of bad writers thinking they need "something for the ladies" in an action movie. God I barely remember what she does in 2. She almost marries a guy she doesn't love out of spite because communicating with people is unromantic.
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Lurdiak posted:She almost marries a guy she doesn't love out of spite because communicating with people is unromantic. She yells at Peter for missing her play, and he just sorta takes it, despite having an easy Spider-free excuse in the form of "a speeding car hit my scooter on the way there, I almost died."
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Oct 23, 2017 09:02
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Then they actually pull the "somehow I always knew, even though we had dozens of scenes where the tension was that you didn't want me to know" card.
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I remember being confused by the bit where she does the upside-down kiss with John Jameson. Did she think he was Spider-Man or did she just want to compare upside-down kissing ability?
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Oct 23, 2017 09:37
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She wanted to see if kissing her fiance had the same magic as kissing a masked stranger that just saved her from being gangraped. It didn't.
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RevolverDivider posted:Amazing 1 is alrightish, Amazing 2 is an insane fever dream. Homecoming is fantastic, Raimi 1 is alright but poorly aged, Raimi 2 is great, Raimi 3 is garbage. This should go in the OP, maybe even the title.
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Lobok posted:I'd post her paper but it's $19 on JSTOR. Way to not make me not wanna read the rest, teacher lady. At least give me a little of that sizzling Zizek
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Was there a new Thor trailer or leak or something, I'm seeing some gifs from the movie I haven't seen yet.
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SonicRulez posted:I agree. As much as I would rather execs keep out of creative processes, there is a part of me that wishes Raimi had just done the Venom movie they told him to do. I would've taken that over forcing Venom into the movie he already had in his head. This is actually very true to Ultimate Peter Parker where basically everyone he fights in his first year or so manages to take off his mask and figure out who he is.
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fruit on the bottom posted:This is actually very true to Ultimate Peter Parker where basically everyone he fights in his first year or so manages to take off his mask and figure out who he is. And that's the Peter Parker that died. Coincidence? I think not!
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Rami's spider man movies are overrated. They're pretty good but nowhere near the masterpieces people make them out to be. They are far better than the ASM movies though. I think they Rami movies are so highly regarded because there was an absolute truckload of lovely comic book movies from 2000-2005, so having a good movie made people think it was better than it actually was. Edit- Simmons is the best casting in the history of comic book movies, no question.
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The first Raimi Spider-Man is absolute horseshit.
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Rhyno posted:The first Raimi Spider-Man is absolute horseshit. It really hasn't aged well, but at the time it was definitely one of the best superhero movies we'd seen. God, it's been 15 years since it came out.
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